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White Could Be The New Black For Big Oil

Geology

A metal once dubbed “white petroleum” might soon draw the world’s oil companies back to a sector they abandoned decades ago, mining.

It was during the 1970s that major oil producers such as ExxonMobil and BP operated a wide range of copper, uranium, zinc and titanium projects alongside their traditional petroleum business units.

The logic back then was that oil and minerals shared a common skills base of “earth sciences” such as geology and geophysics necessary to make discoveries, and common industrial abilities in the extraction and processing of raw materials.

White Over Black

In fact the differences between the so-called soft rocks which contain oil and gas, and the hard rocks which contain most metals, were greater than the common threads, with another big difference being a different core of customers.

 

Filling up. Less gasoline and more electricity.

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The oil industry also faces a rolling crisis of low prices and the threat of punitive government regulations on carbon pollution as well as the loss of customers to new energy sources such as wind and solar

Electric vehicles (EVs), the fastest growing sector in transport, do not need petroleum, relying instead on a mix of metals in their batteries such lithium, the material with the nickname of “white petroleum” because in its natural form it is white.

The extent of the problems confronting oil were crystallized in two events this week.

GM Switching To Lithium Power

First came news that one of the world’s biggest vehicle makers, General Motors, would stop making traditional petroleum powered vehicles in 2035, joining a trend which started in Europe where big car makers are rushing to roll out more EVs.

GM is a long way behind Tesla, the EV leader, but it is keen to close the gap.

Then came the huge losses posted by two of the world’s oil giant, ExxonMobil and BP which are being driven by activist investors to slash their carbon pollution footprints.

So, on one side of this power squeeze are customers heading for the exit and on the other shareholders demanding change.

Oil Falls While Lithium Grows

In their announcements this week, ExxonMobil and BP promised to boost their investment in low carbon businesses and alternative energy.

ExxonMobil’s loss of $22 billion included a $19 billion write-down of underperforming oil assets. BP’s loss totaled $5.7 billion and was the first since the British oil giant was hammered by the Deepwater Horizon blow-out and oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico 11 years ago.

Dominating the problems of the oil industry are the prices of oil and gas which were flattened earlier this year by the combination of excess production and collapsed demand in the early weeks of the Covid-19 pandemic.

Just add lithium. Photo by Dan Tian/Xinhua via Getty Images

Xinhua News Agency/Getty Images

Those factors saw oil fall below $20 a barrel while one futures contract briefly turned negative.

Short-term price pressures, however, are nothing compared with the long term challenge of peak oil, a term which has flicked from its original meaning of peak supply to a modern interpretation which is peak demand.

Like oil, lithium has been buffeted over the past two years by excess supply and sluggish demand, but the long-term outlook for lithium is remarkably buoyant whereas oil faces a long slide downhill and a fight for market share which will see the survival of producers with the lowest costs.

In simple terms oil has peaked and is in retreat, lithium and the other battery metals are just starting their ascent.

Growth v Contraction

A third event this week which highlighted the difference between oil and new energy was an announcement from Albemarle Corporation, one of the world’s biggest lithium miners, that it is raising $1.3 billion to accelerate growth projects in Australia, Chile and Nevada.

Coming within hours of ExxonMobil and BP reporting big losses from oil operations the capital raising and lithium expansion plans of Albemarle demonstrated the difference between an industry in decline and one which is growing.

For investors, the potential for oil companies to re-discover their interest in mining, particularly for battery metals, is another reason to keep an eye on nickel and lithium stocks.

Acquiring a white petroleum business would be a logical move for a company such as BP which is trying to phase out of the “black petroleum” business and become a clean energy leader.

So far the dominant clean energy investments of big oil producers have been in wind turbines, solar farms and emissions management such as carbon capture and storage.

Adding a lithium asset to the asset mix would be a natural step down the clean energy path.\

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69 Comments on "White Could Be The New Black For Big Oil"

  1. TheHumanRaceIsDone on Sun, 7th Feb 2021 7:49 pm 

    How are you going to install a King, without starting a social revolution. People believe in democracy and will not accept anything else. Just accept the reality, the human race is done. Nobody wants the job. Nobody want to deal with that crap.

  2. IAmGoingInsane on Sun, 7th Feb 2021 7:54 pm 

    This is me going insane above. Forget about it

  3. SystemIsTooComplexToStayAliveMuchLonger on Sun, 7th Feb 2021 8:06 pm 

    So you want to install a false king with Deepfake and a have shadow government.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMF2i3A9Lzw

    Really,

  4. FuckThat on Sun, 7th Feb 2021 8:15 pm 

    Biden, Trump, repugnant Harris cannot be trusted. The US cannot be trusted, they are liar, manipulator, killer. Fuck that. . Just accept the reality, the human race is done. Nobody wants the job. Nobody want to deal with that crap.

    I am going insane. I am probaly paranoid. It is ok

  5. IAmMentallyInsane on Sun, 7th Feb 2021 8:41 pm 

    So what is the deal, trump pretend to be the president, but I am the ones running everything in the background. Trump is just some kind of figure without any real power.

    I am mentally insane, just don’t read me

    Just accept the reality, the human race is done. Nobody wants the job. Nobody want to deal with that crap.

  6. SystemIsTooComplexToStayAliveMuchLonger on Sun, 7th Feb 2021 8:51 pm 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtJKeh6zrbE

    Bidet is a puppet figure. Bidet does not flight into air force one. Look above and read the comments if you don’t believe me.

  7. SystemIsTooComplexToStayAliveMuchLonger on Sun, 7th Feb 2021 9:14 pm 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aImVipe3R6A

    Look the difference between air force 1 and 2.

    You should see my youtube. I am getting addicted to this shit. Well it is entertaining.

  8. Biden's hairplug on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 3:01 am 

    Talking about “new black”, the Superbowl halftime show is… err… Biden-proof:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rhadTURsrw

    Nevertheless, the Trump-supporter Brady won.

  9. Cloggie on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 4:47 am 

    Forbes is one of the few voices in the North-American energy landscape who understand the signs of the times. Add Bloomberg as well.

    The rest is stuck in oil, like most posters here.

  10. Cloggie on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 5:08 am 

    More examples of continental European renewables replacing Anglo oil:

    https://www.offshorewind.biz/2021/02/08/rwes-3-gw-offshore-wind-bid-advances-in-uk-round-4-leasing/

    “RWE’s 3 GW Offshore Wind Bid Advances in UK Round 4 Leasing”

    German RWE and EnBW are selected as preferred suppliers for the Doggerbank project in the Northsea.

    And Total of France is another one:

    https://www.offshorewind.biz/2021/02/08/total-gig-move-through-uks-leasing-round-4-with-1-5-gw-project/

    “Total, GIG Move Through UK’s Leasing Round 4 with 1.5 GW Project”

    The UK expects to have 40 GW of offshore wind by 2030, that’s 12% of the entire EU power consumption.

    China & US & Japan wind suppliers nowhere to be seen.

    That’s the advantage of mastering a new energy source first.

    And it all began in 1975 in Denmark first, with the campaign “Atomkraft, nej tak” (nuclear power, no thanks)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiling_Sun

    And not being content with saying “no”, the Danes began to develop an alternative:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestas

    The top 10 wind suppliers are mostly European, with gigantic project pipelines:

    https://energyacuity.com/blog/2019-top-10-wind-turbine-manufacturers/

    1. Siemens-Gamesa 104 GW
    2. Vestas 102 GW
    3. GE 81 GW
    4. Enercon 21 GW
    5. Nordex 20 GW

    GE has mainly bought itself in, into European (French) companies. HQ in Paris.

  11. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 10:01 am 

    ‘the Worst 90 Seconds of My Life’

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/stormy-daniels-says-alleged-sex-with-trump-was-the-worst-90-seconds-of-my-life?ref=home

  12. The_Forbin_Project on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 11:19 am 

    for the reader

    “The UK expects to have 40 GW of offshore wind by 2030”

    for an estimated cost of 90-100 billion . The UK windfarm fleet at present have a capacity of 20/22GW and last year produced in total

    minimum: 0.095 GW
    maximum: 13.855 GW
    average: 6.22 GW <<<< not good

    The dogger project is projected to get a better return as its offshore and technolgy has improved, load factor is expected to be atleast 42%

    40 x 0.42 = 16.8 GW ave. now add the current fleet average of 6.22 and we get = 23.02 GW

    the demand average for 2019 was 29.653 GW

    better indeed but no cigar.

    the peak GW power during any one hour of the year can be calculated as;-

    current fleet = 13.855
    proposed fleet 40 x 0.63 = 25.200
    combined = 39.955 GWh delivered when the wind blows

    maximum demand that year was 47.275 GW

    now we need to provision for electricity to replace Nat gas and transport usesage.

    fascinating . I reckon the UK could stop Nat gas ( coal is given to fade) for 3-6 months of the year given a suitable storage medium.

    completely CO2 free will require more work.

    Forbin

  13. SystemIsTooComplexAndCanCollapseAnyDay on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 3:23 pm 

    As always, the Bidet and repugnant bitch Harris administration are humiliating them self and shitting on the US population days in and days out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SmwfIcRSs

  14. SystemIsTooComplexAndCanCollapseAnyDay on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 3:45 pm 

    You would think that these stupids pieces of politicians, does not matter what nations, would stop talking about global warming and preparing for food shortage caused by global cooling, These pieces of shit politicians are so stupids that they cannot read and interpret a two dimensional graphic. Just worthless pieces of dog shit.

    The Arctic has Descended: Snowstorms and Ice bring much of Europe to a Standstill

    https://electroverse.net/the-arctic-has-descended/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SmwfIcRSs

  15. SystemIsTooComplexAndCanCollapseAnyDay on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 4:00 pm 

    Gasoline price still increasing Quebec. Collapse and financial crash is coming.

    https://essencequebec.com/acquisition

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME6Ha3sSAJU

  16. SystemIsTooComplexAndCanCollapseAnyDay on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 4:09 pm 

    I did not buy fabrics for my sewing project yet. Keep stores opened for one week at least, fucking retard lego

  17. makati1 on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 4:45 pm 

    Amerika will not be selling oil or NG to anyone soon as their total production is falling. Oily imports will return to that of past years, but the demand of the serfs will be less due to the new poverty. Perspective, people, perspective.

  18. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 5:24 pm 

    The Fat Boy brought them all to Washington on that specific day, reiterated his Big Lie that the election was stolen and told them to march to the Capitol where a joint session of congress was certifying the presidential election to “Stop The Steal.”

    What more do we need to know?

    While not the brightest porch light on the block, he does know how to rip things off

  19. makati1 on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 7:16 pm 

    Duncan, you need to get your brainwashing cleaned out. That “election” was the biggest fraud in the last 100 years. Obvious to all but the blind, deaf and brainwashed. I hope he keeps up the pressure on the demoncrat whores who have been too long in their soft jobs. Term limits to 6 years max would be my solution so no more “Nancys” could get so much power.

    But, hey! I get to watch the Amerikan freak show from a safe place. I have family and friends in Amerika but they are going to have to deal with it. They are always welcome here.

    BTW: I hope he runs again in 2024 and wins. Meanwhile, he can help get the Congressional Whorehouse back in Republican hands in 2022. That would stop this stupidity, but it may be too late for Amerika by then. Papers please!

  20. FamousDrScanlon on Mon, 8th Feb 2021 9:41 pm 

    Are y’all MAGA-fags jonesing because your hero daddy got disappeared from social media?

    I told you half-wits many times that they can fuck anyone with a few strokes of a keyboard…….and now they have. TPOTUS no less.

    Jew overlords rfltao at stupid fat conserveatards bringing a knife to a gun fight.

    Stupid fucks buying gunz-N-ammo when you should have been learning how to code & hack.

    What are you going to do, shoot the internet?

  21. makati1 on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 12:56 am 

    Famous, the internet is about over for the serfs, you included. Better to know how to grow your food than how to type shit on a keyboard. But then, maybe you just want to die at your PC or smart phone when you cannot produce real things.

    The future is for workers, not leeches. Which are you? If you do not sweat and produce something needed, as in food, clothing, shelter, or healthcare, you are a leech.

  22. Cloggie on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 2:06 am 

    Offshore boom in the North Sea. Increase investment 330% in 2020 as compared to 2019.

    https://www.offshorewind.biz/2021/02/08/european-offshore-wind-draws-record-investment-in-2020/

    Investment volume 2020: 26 billion euro or 7.1 GW

    EU Target North Sea: 300+ GW in 2050. That would require 10 GW/year. This year they will surpass that amount. Everything is in place to achieve that: the installer ships, the monopile production, the turbines suppliers. All that is required is non-interruption of renewable BAU.

    Steady as it goes.

  23. Cloggie on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 2:37 am 

    Snow at last in the Netherlands and comes with pretty pictures!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9237481/Holland-sees-snowstorm-DECADE-causing-school-lockdown-closures-extended.html

    Has been a long time ago. Everybody hopes for an elfstedentocht, a skating event, an 11 city journey over 200 km. It is for the Netherlands what the Superbowl is for the US:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddyGYljmXYc

    Unfortunately, it hardly happens anymore, climate thingy.

    Corona would disable a regular competition of thousands anyway, but a speed skating event for a few hundred pros is in the cards.

  24. Duncan Idaho on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 10:26 am 

    Used to dine there on a regular basis
    (even more frequently at their restaurant in Glen Ellen)

    https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/Server-Bay-Area-restaurant-loses-job-BLM-mask-15935245.php

  25. Dredd on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 11:12 am 

    The grey virus of the innersphere (On The Origin Of The Home Of COVID-19 – 20).

  26. Dredd on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 11:12 am 

    The grey virus of the innersphere (On The Origin Of The Home Of COVID-19 – 20).

  27. Biden's hairplug on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 11:42 am 

    Used to dine there on a regular basis
    (even more frequently at their restaurant in Glen Ellen)

    https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/Server-Bay-Area-restaurant-loses-job-BLM-mask-15935245.php

    It’s perfectly OK to give somebody the boot if she is playing politics in the time of the boss, certainly in a restaurant, like this “The Girl and the Fag” shack. You don’t want members of a terrorist organization, associated with looting and plundering, serving as a waiter.

    Out.

  28. Duncan Idaho on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 11:56 am 

    San Francisco Catholic church closes after three priests test positive for COVID-19

    Some positive news for a change.

    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-Catholic-church-3-priests-COVID-15936649.php?IPID=SFGate-HP-CP-Spotlight

  29. SystemIsTooComplexToStayAliveMuchLonger on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 1:05 pm 

    I will help you a little bit stupid retard. There is rumors that might be a shortage of sliver might be happening. Actual silver that is used to solder electronics components together. What do I mean be that. See the video below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkkfK937mU

    That thing that is silver color at the end of the welding tip is actually silver. When I say that this world is too complex, this is what I means. IF there is a shortage of sliver currently happening. It means very soon that we will not be able to manufacture cell phone, computers, cars and so on.

    I was surfing the web. there are some rumors saying that ANTIFA and BLM were trained by the CIA. If this is true, now you understand why they are making guatanamo bay bigger.

  30. SystemIsTooComplexToStayAliveMuchLonger on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 1:29 pm 

    You see what is really funny, there is imbecile like Klauss Schwab, Bidet, repugnant bitch Harris, prince Charles, John Kerry that believe in green energy, AI, all the kind of crap. No silver and no copper means none of the above will happen, wind mill, AI, ….. This guy is a con man and is running the World garbage forum as a personal enterprise. World garbage forum is way for him to earn a living, he is basically a crook selling false promises that will never happen.

    Democracy does not work, it means stupid people makes all the decisions.

  31. SystemIsTooComplexToStayAliveMuchLonger on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 2:23 pm 

    You see retards, when I am saying we might be dead by the end of this year or next year 2022. I do mean it, look comments above.

  32. makati1 on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 3:26 pm 

    Yawn! Another day on planet earth and another day of insanity in Amerika, the UK, Australia, and the other Amerikan butt kissing countries. Nothing new.

    A partly cloudy with showers day here in our area, but the dry season is only a few weeks away. Then it is sunny most of the time and warmer. 23C here this AM, going up to 27C later. Much better than the cold in Amerika, unless you live in Florida.

    Have a great day, if you can. I will. ^_^

  33. USCongressIsFullOfLoser on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 4:50 pm 

    Rep. Raskin Recounts His Experiences During The Capitol Riot At Senate Impeachment Trial | NBC News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81_b59p-1YA

    US congress is populated by gay inferior man with no courage and complaining and crying like women in their PMS. Man used to cross the Atlantic sea on wooden leaking boat to come to US and Canada. Fucking losers. They are afraid of every little thing.

  34. FunnyAsFuck on Tue, 9th Feb 2021 8:56 pm 

    StarvingLion: I bet Adam is on the phone to the CIA: “Should we have him waxed?” They will propably try to kill me first.

    LOOOOOOOOOOOL

  35. LetBurnToTheGroundTheyDeserveIt on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 9:16 am 

    I can not stand women in position of power and man that believe that women makes great leaders. They are too stupid to run anything. This western civilization cannot be saved and need to be crashed to the ground. Anyway this world is hell, my as well go full speed ahead with chaos and destruction, since this word is hell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZnoTVK-9Sc

  36. LetTheWorldBurnToTheGround on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 9:51 am 

    Do you know why they never talk about Whites achievement. It because Whites achievement equal the Western civilization : cars, trucks, potable water delivery system. Of course none Whites should feel inferior next to Whites people, because indeed Whites people are the superior race. Everyone knows that deep inside.

    They talk about negro achievement all the time because they have not contributed anything meaningful to the world

    Bryan Stevenson On Black Achievement And Progress | NBC Nightly News
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNKdSt4JFU

  37. LetItBurnToTHeGround on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 10:29 am 

    Do you know who talk the most about unity: people that cannot survive alone:Women, gay, negro, brown shit diversity, globalist. It is because they have no real practical skills: sewing, welding, car mechanical, electronics.

    Do you know who never talk about unity: people with real practical skills that can survive alone.

    Unity means to bring the people with skill into the group and use them as plow and work horses while people with no practical life skill sit there and talk about nothing important. Think of Klauss Schwab . It is just a manipulation trick that most of us people with skills are aware of.

  38. UnityOfStupidPeopleWillSaveUsFromdeath on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 10:39 am 

    We a negro, a brown shit diversity and a Whites, We have achieved unity. It means the everything will work out fine. We are saved by unity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j2IE3ghZFw

  39. LetItBurnToTheGroundItIsTheOnlyWay on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 10:46 am 

    People, people, people, jump to 8:30 you will get the globalist speech on diversity, race, unity deliver to you by a negro.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j2IE3ghZFw

  40. LetItBurnedToTheGround on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 11:36 am 

    Apparently I did made my self clear enough. You had to come out and talk out racism and how bad the Whites man is. OK cock suckers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owJ6M0E3KbU

  41. LetTheWholeWorldBurnDown on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 11:55 am 

    I am sure that bitch has an high IQ. After she has the title of president. I am sure she is a person of wisdom.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBIOl1qPjKc

    COVID-19: President Halimah urges more people to get vaccinated

  42. FamousDrScanlon on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 1:35 pm 

    There’s No Scientific Basis for Race—It’s a Made-Up Label

    It’s been used to define and separate people for millennia. But the concept of race is not grounded in genetics.

    “Over the past few decades, genetic research has revealed two deep truths about people. The first is that all humans are closely related—more closely related than all chimps, even though there are many more humans around today. Everyone has the same collection of genes, but with the exception of identical twins, everyone has slightly different versions of some of them. Studies of this genetic diversity have allowed scientists to reconstruct a kind of family tree of human populations. That has revealed the second deep truth: In a very real sense, all people alive today are Africans.”

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-genetics-science-africa/

    Don’t worry losers, there are still a ton of other shit you can hate them for, like their stinky food & strange clothing. Those two alone are plenty enough reason to blame them for your lifetime of personal failures & genocide them.

  43. FamousDrScanlon on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 2:08 pm 

    The Concept of “Race” Is a Lie

    Even the Ancient Greeks knew it

    “the American Society of Human Genetics, the largest professional organization of scientists in the field, explained in an essay:

    “The science of genetics demonstrates that humans cannot be divided into biologically distinct subcategories”; and it “challenges the traditional concept of different races of humans as biologically separate and distinct. This is validated by many decades of research.” In other words, “race itself is a social construct,” with no biological basis.

    In 2014, more than 130 leading population geneticists condemned the idea that genetic differences account for the economic, political, social and behavioral diversity around the world. In fact, said a 2018 article in Scientific American, there is a “broad scientific consensus that when it comes to genes there is just as much diversity within racial and ethnic groups as there is across them.” And the Human Genome Project has confirmed that the genomes found around the globe are 99.9 percent identical in every person. Hence, the very idea of different “races” is nonsense.”

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-concept-of-race-is-a-lie/

    Nonsense from losers in need of scapegoats to blame their shitty loser lives & national failures on.

    You’re a loser because you’re a loser. You simply don’t have what it takes to compete in a highly complex, ever shifting 21st century global economy.

    This is what is behind the desire for isolation policy. You want to hide. Can’t compete & are embarrassed about it so you want to drop out. Can’t lose if you don’t play right?

    It’s cultural & systemic. Just 2 generations ago the US was #1 or close to it in most categories that mattered.

    What happened? Every change & challenge the US has faced happened to all wealthy western nations & except for the UK, none of them have fallen so far so fast.

    What happened? I would look to your shot callers. All of them.

  44. IDontWantToMakePeopleCryMore on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 2:11 pm 

    I want to write another comment, but I feel it would be too means.

  45. AreYouEmotionallyHappyNow on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 2:18 pm 

    outcastphilospher :The US is a bankrupt ponzi scheme waiting to just implode and explode.

    This is the financial aspect. There are others aspect to this fiasco call western civilization: such of human behavior, reproduction. difference between man and women. It is OK stupid pieces of shit, we are all equal therefore we are all mediocre. Are you feeling ok , are you emotionally happy

    Yes there such a thing as race.

  46. Biden's hairplug on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 2:43 pm 

    “The Concept of “Race” Is a Lie”

    The standard jewish lie, designed to destroy the white race. Everybody equal… except of course for our “super jews”, who are above everybody else. “God’s Chosen People”.

    Here the reality of race:

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

    Here, another indicator:

    https://cdn.face2faceafrica.com/www/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/African-refugees.jpg

    If they were on the same level, they would stay at home. They don’t. They want to escape the poverty, because they are unable to invent themselves out of their predicament. Too stupid.

    Where whites put a man on the moon, Africans were not even able to invent the wheel.

    The author Peter G. Prontzos, is a Canadian “academic” leftist from Vancouver and probably a jew, but at least a jew-worshipper and probably a butt-buddy of apneaman:

    https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/an-odyssey-indeed

  47. makati1 on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 4:08 pm 

    Yawn! Another day on planet earth and another day of insanity in Amerika, the UK, Australia, and the other Amerikan butt kissing countries. Nothing new. Why bother typing a new comment. This one is still accurate.

    A partly cloudy with showers day here in our area, but the dry season is only a few weeks away. Then it is sunny most of the time and warmer. 23C here this AM, going up to 27C later. Much better than the cold in Amerika, unless you live in Florida.

    Have a great day, if you can. I will. ^_^

  48. makati1 on Wed, 10th Feb 2021 4:25 pm 

    This on is for Cloggie:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/achtung-baby-its-cold-outside-germanys-green-energy-fail-rescued-coal-and-gas

    Dream on if you think you can live in northern winters without FFs. LMAO!

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