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TWiE: discusses with Dr. Dave Summers, co-founder of The Oil Drum, natural gas & fracking, global oil supplies, solar on the White House (again) & parasitic loads in our homes all of that & more!

Hosts: Kirsten Hasberg (Denmark & Germany) and Bob Tregilus (U.S.A.).

Guest: Dr. David Summers of The Oil Drum and the Bit Tooth Energy.

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