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Peak oil and peak water explained
Peak oil is something you often hear, but have you ever heard of peak water? Water shortages, and more specifically, fresh water shortages, are likely to become more commonplace in the future. Truthloader took a look into the two terms and what they mean.
17 Comments on "Peak oil and peak water explained"
Davy on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 7:29 am
Energy and water are fully integrated. This includes all types of energy and food the other energy often forgotten. Food, water, and energy are all under stress. The converging shortages of all three are a bad omen. One of the three we could handle all three is catastrophe.
dave thompson on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 8:14 am
Technology and the invisible hand of the free capitalist market will override the physical world, keeping infinite growth and human hubris in place forever.
Rodster on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 9:10 am
We are witnessing the collapse of industrial civilization brought on by the infinite growth economic model which was a byproduct of fractional reserve banking. This time is different because this economic and financial meme went global.
Hell, China is now down to 40 percent clean water due to industrialization.
GregT on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 9:44 am
“Technology and the invisible hand of the free capitalist market will override the physical world, keeping infinite growth and human hubris in place forever.”
$$$$$ Long live the King! $$$$$$
Dredd on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 9:59 am
Evidently Oil-Qaeda is giving up on global warming denial propaganda.
It is switching to “nothing can replace oil” propaganda.
Nothing can replace water either, but water does not pollute the life out of us.
These are not twin peaks are they?
GregT on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 10:22 am
“It is switching to “nothing can replace oil” propaganda.”
So if ‘nothing can replace oil’ is merely propaganda, what can replace oil then? Billions of inquiring minds would like to know.
Davy on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 11:04 am
Mass suicide will work too.
Northwest Resident on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 11:46 am
Davy — Mass suicide by other means looks like the choice that has already been made.
Perk Earl on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 12:06 pm
Oil – water – oil – water. Well I don’t know what water costs, but Brent as of right now is sub $50!
WTI -1.36 to 47.43
Brent -1.78 to 49.18
Wow, Brent at forty nine something?
Just a reminder to countries and companies selling oil, it’s a ‘Market Share War’, so keep on extracting, pumping, filling, producing, refining and transporting so the other guy goes out of business no matter how low the price needs to go to hold on to market share where the customer can only afford so much because as we see from today’s headlines on Google News, unemployment is down but wages are also down. Oops!
Davy on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 12:08 pm
We need to consider a Logan’s Run scenario. Remember that move from the 70’s. This would solve the population problem in an orderly and festive fashion.
Perk Earl on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 12:14 pm
Does that mean you’re trying for ‘Renewal’? Remember, everybody has the same opportunity when their color changes and chance of renewal.
Apneaman on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 12:14 pm
Hat Tip to J-Gav for calling it.
Several mosque attacks following Charlie Hebdo massacre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGuUohoqu40#t=50
BC on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 1:39 pm
Davy: “We need to consider a Logan’s Run scenario. Remember that move from the 70’s. This would solve the population problem in an orderly and festive fashion.”
Yes, and also the Levin novel, “This Perfect Day”, in which elites use “UniComp” to manage society, including “treating” everyone with a daily dose of drugs and requiring everyone die by age 62 (of an overdose of “treatment”).
And there also was “Z.P.G” (“Zero Population Growth”) in which a world government imposed a 30-year ban on births.
And, finally, don’t forget “Soylent Green” . . . is people. 🙂 We are effectively eating ourselves today.
Banning births and “Logan’s Run” and mandatory death by age 30 (or let’s make it 35) are the only practical, long-term solutions to overshoot and resource depletion per capita, but that obviously violates the survival imperative, and living conditions would have to be absolutely grim, e.g., “The Road”, before most people purposefully chose not to have children.
But the financial, pyscho-emotional, and ecological costs of having children in the West and in Japan and China have already resulted in fertility rates plunging below replacement, ensuring population growth will decline in the aggregate for these countries by as soon as the 2020s.
So, we need a basic income guarantee (BIG) for everyone until age 30-35, at which point we would be required to “go home” (like Sol in “Soylent Green”) and be “Renewed”.
This would be an enlightened approach compared to the likelihood of increasing global scale of conflict, violence, abject misery, and existential despair for the majority of us human apes.
Davy on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 2:24 pm
BC said – So, we need a basic income guarantee (BIG) for everyone until age 30-35, at which point we would be required to “go home” (like Sol in “Soylent Green”) and be “Renewed”.
BC, I am thinking “evilish” along your thinking, let’s raise the “bug out” age to 50 but lets cull the population of the weakest, the criminal, the insane, the ugly, the obese, the dumb, handicap, and finally the lazy. We can then work on genetically superior humans scientifically.
Now, there will be some here who think that is a bad idea. I ask those of you why is what we are doing now OK? What we are doing now is denial and not accepting responsibility for our actions. Economist and academics that preach population growth is OK should be banished as criminals. Religions should be outlawed that promote large families. Is this not what is needed when something is dead wrong?
J-Gav on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 5:36 pm
Davy – One little problem with that program – who gets to define who’s the ugliest, dumbest, laziest, etc?
Davy on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 5:47 pm
Gav, I guess I was trying to sound outrageous to make the point that what we are doing currently is outrageous. The denial, deception, and the educated lies are leading us to a judgment that will come from nature’s wrath. In reality I could never play god in that way I described in my comment. I am basically an egalitarian and believe we are all equal in the Great Spirits eyes. I also think that is where it ends and we have talents and handicaps that make us different but in the case of the right to exist we all have that basic right.
J-Gav on Fri, 9th Jan 2015 5:55 pm
Davy – Thanks for the clarification. I thought that was the case.
As for the Great Spirit, I’ll admit I see more wisdom in indigenous spirituality than in all our ‘Religions of the Book’ combined … and, sooner or later, something’s gotta give in that regard.