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Kunstler: The Zeitgeist Knows
Who said the global economy was a permanent installation in the human condition? The head cheerleader was The New York Times’s Tom Friedman, with his 1999 book, The Lexus and the Olive Tree, the trumpet blast for the new order of things. Since then, we partied like it was 1999, with a few grand mal seizures of the banking system along the way, some experiments in creating failed states abroad, and the descent of America’s middle-class into a Disney version of Hieronymus Bosch’s Last Judgment — which is kind of what you see on the streets of Los Angeles these days.
Guess what: the global economy is winding down, and pretty rapidly. Trade wars are the most obvious symptom. The tensions underlying that spring from human population overshoot with its punishing externalities, resource depletion, and the perversities of money in accelerated motion, generating friction and heat. They also come from the fact that techno-industrialism was a story with a beginning, a middle, and an end — and we’re closer to the end than we are to the middle. There will be no going back to the prior party, whatever way we pretend to negotiate our way around or through these quandaries.
The USA-China romance was bound to end in divorce, which Mr. Trump is surreptitiously suing for now under the guise of a negotiated trade rebalancing. The US has got a chronic financial disease known as Triffin’s Dilemma, a set of disorders endemic to any world reserve currency. The disease initially expressed itself in President Nixon’s ditching the US dollar’s gold backing in 1971. By then, the world had noticed the dollar’s declining value trend-line, and threatened to drain Fort Knox to counter the effects of holding those dollars. Since then, all world currencies have been based on nothing but the idea that national economies would forever and always pump out more wealth.
It turns out that they pump out more debt in the pursuit of that chimerical wealth until the economic viziers and banking poohbahs begin to declare that debt itself is wealth — and now all the major players around the world are choking to death on that debt, especially the USA and China, but also Japan and the dolorous commune known as the EU. Everybody’s broke, one way or another, even though they are up to their eyeballs in products designed to fall apart in a few years. Better learn how to fix stuff, especially machines, because a lot of it won’t be replaced going forward.
Notice that Mr. Nixon’s escape from the dollar gold standard coincided with America’s first oil production peak. It was actually more than a coincidence, though it is unclear that anyone but James Schlesinger (then head of the Atomic Energy Commission, and later Secretary of Defense, Secretary of Energy, and CIA Director) understood what that signified. Now America is back at a second and even higher production peak thanks to the illusory boom of shale oil. The difference now is that only 10 percent of the companies producing it make a red cent. For the rest, the main result is just more and more debt, contributing to the larger global debt fiasco. It’s now down to a race between the sensational depletion rate of the shale oil wells and the country’s flagging capacity to generate more debt with a dim prospect of it ever being paid back.
Who knows whether the Golden Golem of Greatness and the people advising him in the White House get where all this is taking us in the history of the future. One might suppose it’s behind Mr. Trump’s wish to Make America Great Again, the vision of a return to the economy of 1955, of men toting lunchboxes through the factory gates, and seventy million boomer schoolchildren dreaming of trips to the moon, and the hard-fought, transient blessings of Pax Americana. All that is a comfort to simpletons, no doubt, but not wholly consistent with what can be observed actually going on — which is a culture and a political system seemingly bent on suicide.
The zeitgeist knows something that we don’t. The arc of this story follows the breakup of old arrangements, including trade relations, alliances, nation-states, and widespread expectations about what ought to be. Some observers claim the US will be the “last man standing” in this journey to the post global economy. (We surely would want to avoid a situation where nobody is left standing.) But all the participants in the orgy now ending will be left at least cross-eyed and flummoxed in the new cold dawn of a world without the old mojo. If the center is not holding, better look for a place on the margins as far from the emerging economic black hole as possible.
110 Comments on "Kunstler: The Zeitgeist Knows"
Cloggie on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 12:31 pm
“‘America is a serious threat to the world!’ Chinese state newspaper says the US is using its ‘stupid’ trade policies to harm global economy as Trump arrives in Britain for a state visit”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7098837/America-threat-world-Beijing-blasts-Washington-Trump-arrives-Britain.html
Cloggie on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 12:36 pm
“Trump removes India from special trade status”
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/01/politics/trump-india-trade-status/index.html
“Why the New U.S.-EU Trade Talks May Be Doomed Before They Even Start”
http://fortune.com/2019/05/07/us-eu-trade-talks-agriculture/
“Trump Says U.S. Will Hit Mexico With 5% Tariffs on All Goods”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/politics/trump-mexico-tariffs.html
Trump-USA against the rest of the world. What could possibly go wrong?!
Davy on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 4:17 pm
You go “Speedy Gonzales”.
“I’m with Davy on this one. I hope Trump turns himself into a dictator so that he can send all the democrats to
Auschwitz in railroad cars.” ~~~Speeder~~~
Gee, thanks speeder. I quoted you verbatim. Now JuanP can’t claim we are not on the same page. You know, ‘Great minds think alike.’
Keep up the hate.
Davy on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 4:21 pm
In case you guys are wondering:
Speedy Gonzales = Go Speed Racer
My kinda guy!!!!
Cloggie on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 5:00 pm
Hilarious British anti-Trump hitpiece:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/03/president-trump-visit-queen-buckingham-palace-london-england
“Yes, it’s me, President Trump, visiting some third-world hellhole”
Sissyfuss on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 6:13 pm
At the center of every bottleneck you will find chaos. Notice anything different of late?
JuanP on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 6:22 pm
OOpps, this is a juanpee posting:
Davy on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 4:17 pm
You go “Speedy Gonzales”.
“I’m with Davy on this one. I hope Trump turns himself into a dictator so that he can send all the democrats to
Auschwitz in railroad cars.” ~~~Speeder~~~
Gee, thanks speeder. I quoted you verbatim. Now JuanP can’t claim we are not on the same page. You know, ‘Great minds think alike.’
Keep up the hate.
Davy on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 4:21 pm
In case you guys are wondering:
Speedy Gonzales = Go Speed Racer
My kinda guy!!!!
makati1 on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 6:25 pm
The US “…a culture and a political system seemingly bent on suicide.” YEP!
“If the center is not holding, better look for a place on the margins as far from the emerging economic black hole as possible.”
Good advice, and I took it 11 years ago. The Philippines will have some bumps in the future, but not the magnitude 10+ quakes the US is going to experience. The ground is already shaking in the 50 and the EU. Australia and Japan are far enough away that they may only get mag 4 or 5. WE shall see. Exciting, isn’t it?
Dredd on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 6:53 pm
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, Rule 57
shortonoil on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 7:22 pm
After the US can longer control the China South Sea, which may dependent on how fast China’s financial system collapses, the second place that China will invade after Twain, will be the Philippines. The Chinese say that their re-education summer camps are “fun”. You could ask a Tibetans about that; if you could find one.
More Davy Identity Theft on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 7:32 pm
JuanP on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 6:22 pm
Davy on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 11:59 pm
Anybody hear from soul brother, Speeder?
Truth Buster on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 2:49 am
Trump senior aid tied to Mueller investigation busted with homosexual child pornography:
“George Nader, a Lebanese American businessman who became a major witness in former Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, is facing child pornography charges unsealed by a Virginia court on Monday. He served as an intermediary between Trump associates, Middle Eastern leaders, and Russia during the administration’s transition period in 2017.”
makati1 on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 4:43 am
short, you are so full of bullshit and Sinophobia that it must be running out of your eyes.
1. The Chinese have every right to protect their country. What would the US do if China sailed their aircraft carrier or a couple of war ships along the coast of America every month? 11 miles off of California or Maryland? After all, they would only be “guaranteeing freedom of the seas”.
2. As for the Chinese invading the Philippines. Is that from some all night stag party hangover? It certainly is not from the real world I live in. You spew bullshit just like Davy with zero references to support your lies. The Chinese are here already. The world’s oldest Chinatown is in northern Manila. Most of the billionaires here are part Chinese. They have been here for centuries.
3. As for China collapsing, don’t hold your breath. The US is surely going down, but I see China remaining after the dust settles. Keep in mind how Trump is destroying the uS one tweet at a time.
BTW: When was the last time you were in China or any country in Asia? I live here. I guess I know what is going on better than a USMSM propaganda guzzler. GO TRUMP! TAKE THE US ALL DOWN! JUST DO IT! LMAO
JuanP on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 4:54 am
OOpps, juanpee posting
Davy on Mon, 3rd Jun 2019 11:59 pm
Anybody hear from soul brother, Speeder?
JuanP on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 4:55 am
juanpee sock
Truth Buster on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 2:49 am
Trump senior aid tied to Mueller investigation busted with homosexual child pornography:
Cloggie on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 5:03 am
Shorty is not entirely wrong, makati.
The only way for the Ps (and Australia!) to avoid Chinese occupation, is to completely distance itself from the US. I don’t see that happening. It’s only a matter of time until China feels itself strong enough to issue an anti-Anglo ultimatum regarding the SCS and Taiwan. Get lost or else!
And if the US picks up the gauntlet, you should really have 2nd thoughts about the Ps as a peak oil refuge. Perhaps you should be on the lookout for a new refuge, like in the Ozarks. Perhaps empire dave can be of service.
For me as a card-carrying “white supremist”, “natzi” , Europe firster and WW2 revanchist and what not, I can hardly wait for our multicultural tormentor to get a good beating/humiliation in the SCS.
I am not a fan of China, but for Europe they can play precisely the same role, the USSR played in helping the US getting Europe destroyed.
In the end we are going to contain the “Chinese problem”. But we are going to solve the US empire problem. Come on, Chinaman! The SCS and Taiwan is yours. And don’t your date invade Australia because in Europe and Russia we are going to stamp with our feet on the ground real hard! And put 5% on milk powder. That should teach em!
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 5:06 am
Well, makato, that didn’t take long. You were supposed to be observing a truce but like your fuck nut friend juanpee you just can resist:
“You spew bullshit just like Davy with zero references to support your lies.”
Expect to have your shit moderated again makato.
“short, you are so full of bullshit and Sinophobia that it must be running out of your eyes.”
Makato, you are a rabid Asiaphile who’s comments are completely binary and unbalanced.
“1. The Chinese have every right to protect their country. What would the US do if China sailed their aircraft carrier or a couple of war ships along the coast of America every month? 11 miles off of California or Maryland? After all, they would only be “guaranteeing freedom of the seas”.
Makato, it is called freedom of navigation and China is welcome to sail by the US coast and they do on occasions.
“2. As for the Chinese invading the Philippines. Is that from some all night stag party hangover?”
That’s stupid makato?? Your buddy cloggo constantly talks about the P’s being taken over by China
“It certainly is not from the real world I live in.”
Well True, I tell cloggo this constantly that he has no understanding of 21st century military realities.
“Chinese are here already. The world’s oldest Chinatown is in northern Manila. Most of the billionaires here are part Chinese. They have been here for centuries.”
AH, no shit makato, like big deal. So is the US and many other nations
“3. As for China collapsing, don’t hold your breath. The US is surely going down, but I see China remaining after the dust settles. Keep in mind how Trump is destroying the uS one tweet at a time.”
China is overpopulated and can’t feed itself. It is running low on vital resources. It is one of the most polluted countries on earth. I think China could be the first man down.
“BTW: When was the last time you were in China or any country in Asia?”
So what stupid. When is the last time you were in China? Yea, a few years ago a shopping trip in HK. HK is a Chinese pimple. The only shit you know about China is what you read idiot.
“I live here. I guess I know what is going on better than a USMSM propaganda guzzler.”
Makato, are you drunk. You don’t live in China?? You are getting more and more irrelevant.
“GO TRUMP! TAKE THE US ALL DOWN! JUST DO IT! LMAO”
Juvenile stupidity
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 5:20 am
“Shorty is not entirely wrong, makati. The only way for the Ps (and Australia!) to avoid Chinese occupation, is to completely distance itself from the US.”
Please, cloggo, the Chinese are not capable of occupying either country. This is not the 40’s even though you are stuck in the 40’s and 50’s. Look what it took for the US to occupy Iraq and there were no hostile 3rd parties in the picture. The US will have the Chinese navy on the bottom of the ocean in no time.
“I don’t see that happening. It’s only a matter of time until China feels itself strong enough to issue an anti-Anglo ultimatum regarding the SCS and Taiwan. Get lost or else!”
Well, your whole PBM nonsense hinges on a Sino-American WW3. LMFAO. Everything about you hinges on something this is why you carry around so much fantasy.
“And if the US picks up the gauntlet, you should really have 2nd thoughts about the Ps as a peak oil refuge. Perhaps you should be on the lookout for a new refuge, like in the Ozarks. Perhaps empire dave can be of service.”
Makato, would last a day in the Ozarks. The pussy can’t work and he has a big mouth. He would go to a local bar and get his ass kicked in no time.
“For me as a card-carrying “white supremist”, “natzi” , Europe firster and WW2 revanchist and what not, I can hardly wait for our multicultural tormentor to get a good beating/humiliation in the SCS.”
Like I said the Natzi can’t wait for his imaginary WW3. What the stupid Natzi fails to understand is a WW includes Eurotardland.
“I am not a fan of China, but for Europe they can play precisely the same role, the USSR played in helping the US getting Europe destroyed.”
I wish I had a dime for every time you say this shit.
“In the end we are going to contain the “Chinese problem”. But we are going to solve the US empire problem. Come on, Chinaman! The SCS and Taiwan is yours. And don’t your date invade Australia because in Europe and Russia we are going to stamp with our feet on the ground real hard! And put 5% on milk powder. That should teach em!”
What did I tell makato?? OH yea Juvenile shit.
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 5:41 am
I have said this in the past that Maduro’s days are numbered. It is not because of Russia or the US particularly it is the nature of the collapse process. Nobody in their right mind is going to support his government when it is broke without hope. As for China and Russia they have a big hair cut ahead. All those billions will be gone when the bankrupt country reorganizes. It is now dependent on Maduro’s generals and when they go unpaid that is when Maduro will be on a plane to Moscow.
“Trump: Russia Confirmed It Removed “Most Of Their People” From Venezuela”
https://tinyurl.com/yxe2suyu zerohedge
“President Trump confirmed in a Monday afternoon tweet that Russia communicated to the US that it has removed “most of their people” from Venezuela, in reference to military personnel previously servicing contracts with Maduro’s armed forces. Trump’s tweet followed a Sunday WSJ report detailing that Russian state defense contractor Rostec is quickly pulling out of the Latin American country over concerns the debt-strapped socialist ally won’t be able to pay its bills now or in the future.”
Davy Loves Socks & Cocks on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 5:49 am
I love socks and cocks.
JuanP on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 5:53 am
juanpee and his sexual deviance. Tell us all about humper pumper. Does your wife know about this shit or maybe she is gone because of it.
MODS, rid this place of this pervert!
Davy Loves Socks & Cocks on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 5:49 am
I love socks and cocks.
Theedrich on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 6:29 am
The Democratic Party of Traitors wants U.S. death. The Demonic drive to import millions more outhouselings to change American demographics with undocumentees and give Pelosi power means the end of the nation. White America has largely abandoned itself to genosuicide through decadence of every form, including overdosing with fentanyl. The Yid-controlled media and the anti-White frenzy have won.
Concomitant and consistent with this national slide to civilizational self-murder is the rapidly intensifying cyber race and electronic-warfare competition with Russia and China. (See the discussion at https://www.c-span.org/video/?461307-1/us-russia-china-relations, 1:11:32-1:17 by Thomas Erhard, former Deputy Chief of Staff & Special Assistant to Deputy Defense Secretary Robert Work, Obama Admin.) These are the hard realties:
One would expect that, in a rational world, politicians in the U.S. would do their best to deal calmly and carefully with Russia and China. But we do not live in such a world. Instead, the Democratic Party of Traitors is beating the war drums of an imaginary “Russiagate” invented by them, and antagonizing the very nation we should be trying to get along with and lower the international temperature. See, for example, Stephen F. Cohen’s War with Russia: From Putin & Ukraine to Trump & Russiagate, an excellent portrayal of the self-defeating situation in which our domestic politics has placed us.
But then, if a nation has decided to commit suicide, it is impossible to stop it.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 6:38 am
Theedrich
Globalization will end the Illegal Immigrant Problem
One Government, One Bank, One Currency, One Language. One Religion, No Borders..
Cloggie on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 7:19 am
Not as stupid as I thought…
BoJo snubs Trump:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7102657/Me-Tory-leadership-rivals-jostle-meet-Donald-Trump-state-visit.html
Truth Buster on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 8:59 am
Theedrich says,
“Instead, the Democratic Party of Traitors is beating the war drums of an imaginary “Russiagate” invented by them.”
Nice try. Just one small problem with your revisionist historical accounting. Mueller, a lifelong Republican, was appointed by Republicans to investigate.
Dumbass.
JuanP on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 9:31 am
Thee, this Truth Buster fraud is a juanpee sock. Disregard the dipshit. BTW juanpee supported Trump.
Duncan Idaho on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 9:43 am
“If Republicans promise to stop telling lies about Democrats, we will promise not to tell the truth about Republicans.”
—Adlai E. Stevenson
The Dims are pretty clueless, but lying is a repug trait, promoted and honored.
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 10:05 am
“The Dims are pretty clueless, but lying is a repug trait, promoted and honored.“
All politicians lie but the Democrats these day are a party built on lies. Kunstler outed the shit for 2 years now so there is no need to elaborate.
Duncan Idaho on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 10:25 am
Davy- While HRC lied on a regular basis, as Kunstler pointed out, among others, most Dims are just not smart enough.
Repugs, while statistically dumber, honor lying as a group.
Pepsi, Pepsi Lite
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 10:37 am
“Repugs, while statistically dumber, honor lying as a group.”
Yea, I agree Repugs are dumber but since the “never Trump” dimwits have materialized the Dims are now bat shit crazy which is worse than dumb. Bat shit crazy and on puppet strings is a really intelligent. LOL. Personally I think anyone identifying as either a Repug or a Dim is dumb. Politics these days is awful and should be considered tabloid material.
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More JuanP trashing the forum on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 11:40 am
MODS please ban the fucker
More Davy Identity Theft on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 11:25 am
JuanP on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 4:54 am
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Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 12:25 pm
Oops, sorry for losing my shit again everyone, and for all of the identity theft I do.
I should have been banned years ago.
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 12:31 pm
Not to mention that I’m an abusive asshole, a hypocrite, and a compulsive liar.
Please ban me now and get this discussion forum back on track.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 12:55 pm
Global warming could devastate civilization by 2050: report
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/06/04/health/climate-change-existential-threat-report-intl/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
JuanP on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 12:56 pm
Juanpee mindless shit. Ban the fucker
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 12:25 pm
Oops, sorry for losing my shit again everyone, and for all of the identity theft I do.
I should have been banned years ago.
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 12:31 pm
Not to mention that I’m an abusive asshole, a hypocrite, and a compulsive liar.
Please ban me now and get this discussion forum back on track.
More Davy Identity Theft on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 2:01 pm
JuanP on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 12:56 pm
claes on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 2:06 pm
Theed, you are so wrong about expecting that, “in a rational world, politicians in the U.S. would do their best to deal calmly and carefully with Russia and China.”
Both russia and china are empires that would gladly expand at any time.
For the moment russia unwillingly is in the defencive while china is strugling hard to justifice their own emperical dreams towards their neighbours.
theed, dont see china or russia as a the worlds saviors
Cloggie on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 2:49 pm
Bad omen. Very shaken, not stirred.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7104473/Bond-25-thrown-chaos-stunt-goes-horribly-wrong-BLOWS-set.html
“Bond 25 is thrown into chaos as stunt goes horribly wrong and BLOWS UP the set at Pinewood studios injuring crew… putting production ‘into total lockdown’”
James Bond is THE post-war symbol of Anglo glamour. Or was he a super Jew?
https://forward.com/culture/372771/on-her-majesty-s-semitic-service/
The next Bond almost was black. What’s next? A transgender Bond, a homo Bond? Shlomo Bond? LGBT Bond? Jessica Bond?
Perhaps it is better to bury James now.
Cloggie on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 4:10 pm
It’s gonna be a hostile take-over, that “tremendous trade deal” of DJT:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7104321/The-NHS-not-sale-FOUR-Tory-leadership-hopefuls-join-Corbyn-warn-Donald-Trump.html
“The NHS is not for sale’: FOUR Tory leadership hopefuls join Jeremy Corbyn and union leaders in handing warnings to Donald Trump after he says it should be part of a trade deal”
Even the hard-core Brexiteer reader comments show little illussion with the intentions of the Americans, who want to turn the UK into an oligarch resource, the little white guy be damned.
I don’t think Trump did the cause of no-deal Brexit much good.
Cloggie on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 4:50 pm
BoJo snubbed Trump.
Trump snubbed Corbyn.
Trump and Farage did meet:
https://youtu.be/y6d7UDtN0C8
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 5:28 pm
“Even the hard-core Brexiteer reader comments show little illussion with the intentions of the Americans, who want to turn the UK into an oligarch resource, the little white guy be damned.”
Nonsense cloggo, both sides with have comparative advantage to exploit. You are so far up your Brexit asshole all you can think is evil thoughts. DISGUSTING
Anonymouse on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 5:40 pm
Well, he is a ‘neder’ jude dumbass. And a brain-damaged one at that, not unlike you. The brain-damaged part of course.
Did you expect something different from him, dumbass?
Anonymouse on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 6:07 pm
Cross Asperger syndrome with an obsessive stalking compulsion and you get juanpee and I.
More Davy Identity Theft on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 6:25 pm
Anonymouse on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 6:07 pm
makati1 on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 6:32 pm
Cloggie, the Philippines WILL move away from the US and they are already doing so. This Philippine president is NOT a product of US colleges and propaganda like the previous ones. He has already moved toward Russia and China and will continue to do so.
Same for Australia after Trump throws a bunch of tariffs and bullshit on them, like he has already threatened. China is Australia’s largest customer (30%), not the US (4%). Only 6% of Australia’s exports go to Western countries.
http://www.worldstopexports.com/australias-top-import-partners/
When the SHTF, there will be little or no goods sent to the US from Asia. The Asian market is growing. The Western one is shrinking. The EU is a ‘has been’ idea being torn apart by their own stupidity and US ass kissing.
I made the correct decision to move out of the West 11 years ago and have zero regrets. I’m still in the best place to sit out the coming shit storm.
BTW: What drugs were you on when you composed those last paragraphs?
“For me as a card-carrying “white supremist”, “natzi” , Europe firster and WW2 revanchist and what not, I can hardly wait for our multicultural tormentor to get a good beating/humiliation in the SCS.
I am not a fan of China, but for Europe they can play precisely the same role, the USSR played in helping the US getting Europe destroyed.
In the end we are going to contain the “Chinese problem”. But we are going to solve the US empire problem. Come on, Chinaman! The SCS and Taiwan is yours. And don’t your date invade Australia because in Europe and Russia we are going to stamp with our feet on the ground real hard! And put 5% on milk powder. That should teach em!”
Davy on Tue, 4th Jun 2019 7:19 pm
Mods,
If y’all keep posting so many anti-American articals I gonna throw an extra bad anger tantrum.
That’s not a threat. It’s a promise.
Cloggie on Wed, 5th Jun 2019 2:09 am
Cloggie, the Philippines WILL move away from the US and they are already doing so. This Philippine president is NOT a product of US colleges and propaganda like the previous ones. He has already moved toward Russia and China and will continue to do so.
Really? My impression is that Duterte tried to play out the US and China against each other, a smart strategy for a small country to follow. But at least the US has no claims on the SCS and its resources, China does:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/05/south-china-sea-duterte-warns-china-of-suicide-missions-to-protect-disputed-island
Last week:
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3012670/south-china-sea-frustrated-rodrigo-duterte-ticks-beijing
“‘Is it right for a country to claim whole ocean?’: Duterte frustrated with Beijing over South China Sea conduct”
I repeat what I have said many times over the past years and I repeat it again and I say this without gloating because I have zero ill will against you (much in contrast to my only real opponents here, Beavis and Butthead aka empire dave and mobster): the Ps are precisely in the crosshairs of upcoming geopolitical earthquakes, on par with other potential war zones the likes of the Gulf, the “English” Channel/North Sea, Venezuela, Ukraine, Syria and Iran.
If we get a flash in the pan, China has steamrolled the Ps in a matter of a few days, just like the Japs did in 1942. Walk-over. And nobody is taking the trouble of verifying your pro-Chinese credentials. It’s off to the concentration camp with US whiteys.
US pow’s WW2 in the Ps:
https://tinyurl.com/yy3rnrj5
Could be you.
Cloggie on Wed, 5th Jun 2019 2:27 am
Same for Australia after Trump throws a bunch of tariffs and bullshit on them, like he has already threatened. China is Australia’s largest customer (30%), not the US (4%). Only 6% of Australia’s exports go to Western countries.
When the SHTF, there will be little or no goods sent to the US from Asia. The Asian market is growing. The Western one is shrinking.
Being a large customer is not the point. The points is that Australia is a large piece of land that is very difficult to defend, where China is an overpopulated giant. There is no sign that Australia is distancing itself militarily from the US. Au contraire:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-27/indo-pacific-endeavour-chinese-ships-exercise-sea/11153874
BTW: What drugs were you on when you composed those last paragraphs?
“For me as a card-carrying “white supremist”, “natzi” , Europe firster and WW2 revanchist and what not, I can hardly wait for our multicultural tormentor to get a good beating/humiliation in the SCS.
I have never smoked in my life. Just giving the finger to the smear-words of the empire and show that I can’t be blackmailed by them.
In the end we are going to contain the “Chinese problem”. But we are going to solve the US empire problem. Come on, Chinaman! The SCS and Taiwan is yours. And don’t your date invade Australia because in Europe and Russia we are going to stamp with our feet on the ground real hard! And put 5% on milk powder. That should teach em!”
The point I’m making is that between 1933-1939, the US, USSR and UK war party (Churchill, Cooper, van Sittard and others) were in quiet agreement with each other that they combined could and should destroy Europe.
Now Europe, Russia and China are in an even better position to destroy the Anglos once and for all than the Alllies were in the thirties. Up until December 1942 there was no official alliance US-USSR. All it took were a few conversations between Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin via their (jewish) ambassadors to get the de facto alliance in place and set Europe up for war, using Poland as the useful idiot. When Churchill spoke these words in October 1939, when he finally managed to get Britain into war with Germany, on behest of his jewish paymasters he said in a radio address:
“Russia is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma”
…what he really meant was that Russia was an enigma for everybody EXCEPT for himself! He fooled everybody, most of all Chamberlain.
Now, back to 2019, all it takes is a back room conversation between Juncker, Putin an Xi, where Juncker hints that Europe is NOT going to defend Australia. Why should Europe? Australia was used twice as a colonial resource against Europe in WW1 and WW2.
And when I read this…
https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/
https://www.trouw.nl/democratie/jean-claude-juncker-poetin-is-mijn-vriend~a7236236/
(Juncker: Putin is my friend)
…I am almost certain that there is already an all-Eurasian anti-Anglo agreement in place.
Now all we need is this stupid Brexit farce happening to have the frontlines of WW3 defined.
Enjoy.