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Kunstler: That Collapse You Ordered…?
I had a fellow on my latest podcast, released Sunday, who insists that the world population will crash 90-plus percent from the current 7.6 billion to 600 million by the end of this century. Jack Alpert heads an outfit called the Stanford Knowledge Integration Lab (SKIL) which he started at Stanford University in 1978 and now runs as a private research foundation. Alpert is primarily an engineer.
At 600 million, the living standard in the USA would be on a level with the post-Roman peasantry of Fifth century Europe, but without the charm, since many of the planet’s linked systems — soils, oceans, climate, mineral resources — will be in much greater disarray than was the case 1,500 years ago. Anyway, that state-of-life may be a way-station so something more dire. Alpert’s optimal case would be a world human population of 50 million, deployed in three “city-states,” in the Pacific Northwest, the Uruguay / Paraguay border region, and China, that could support something close to today’s living standards for a tiny population, along with science and advanced technology, run on hydropower. The rest of world, he says, would just go back to nature, or what’s left of it. Alpert’s project aims to engineer a path to that optimal outcome.
I hadn’t encountered quite such an extreme view of the future before, except for some fictional exercises like Cormac McCarthy’s The Road. (Alpert, too, sees cannibalism as one likely byproduct of the journey ahead.) Obviously, my own venture into the fictionalized future of the World Made by Hand books depicted a much kinder and gentler re-set to life at the circa-1800 level of living, at least in the USA. Apparently, I’m a sentimental softie.
Both of us are at odds with the more generic techno-optimists who are waiting patiently for miracle rescue remedies like cold fusion while enjoying re-runs of The Big Bang Theory. (Alpert doesn’t completely rule out as-yet-undeveloped energy sources, though he acknowledges that they’re a low-percentage prospect.) We do agree with basic premise that the energy supply is mainly what supports the way we live now, and that it shows every evidence of entering a deep and destabilizing decline that will halt the activities necessary to keep our networks of dynamic systems running.
A question of interest to many readers is how soon or how rapid the unraveling of these systems might be. When civilizations crumble, it tends to fast-track. The Roman empire seems to be an exception, but in many ways it was far more resilient than ours, being a sort of advanced Flintstones economy, with even its giant-scale activities (e.g. building the Coliseum) being accomplished by human-powered work. In any case, the outfit really fell apart steadily after the reign of emperor Marcus Aurelius (180 AD).
The Romans had their own version of a financialized economy: they simply devalued their coins by mixing in less and less silver at the mint, so they could pretend to pay for the same luxuries they had grown accustomed to as resources stretched thin. Our financialized economy — like everything else we do — operates at levels of complexity so baffling that even its supposed managers at the central banks are flying blind through fogs of debt, deception, and moral hazard. When that vessel of pretense slams into a mountain top, the effects are likely to be quick and lethal to the economies on the ground below.
In our time, the most recent crash of a major socioeconomic system was the fall of the Soviet Union in 1990-91. Of course, it happened against the backdrop of a global system that was still revving pretty well outside the USSR, and that softened the blow. Ultimately, the Russians still had plenty of oil to sell, which allowed them to re-set well above the Fifth Century peasant level of existence. At least for now. The Soviet Union collapsed because it was a thoroughly dishonest system that ran on pretense and coercion. Apparently, the US Intel Community completely missed the signs that political collapse was underway.
They seem to be pretty clueless about the fate of the USA these days, too. If you consider the preoccupations of two very recent Intel chiefs — John Brennan of CIA and James Clapper, DNI — who now inveigh full-time on CNN as avatars of the Deep State against the wicked Golden Golem of Greatness. Personally, I expect our collapse to be as sudden and unexpected as the USSR’s, but probably bloodier because there’s simply more stuff just lying around to fight over. Of course, I expect the collapse to express itself first in banking, finance, and markets — being so deeply faith-based and so subject to simple failures of faith. But it will become political and social soon enough, maybe all-at once. And when it happens in the USA, it will spread through the financial systems the whole world round.
65 Comments on "Kunstler: That Collapse You Ordered…?"
BobInget on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 9:21 am
http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article210125059.html
There will be so much drama before May 12:
BREAKING: PM NETANYAHU WILL GIVE A SPEECH 8PM AND EXPOSE NEW INTELLIGENCE ON THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM, ISRAELI OFFICIAL SAYS
“There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons – no question whatsoever,” Netanyahu said on September 12, 2002.
Hello on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 9:42 am
>> In our time, the most recent crash of a major socioeconomic system was the fall of the Soviet Union in 1990-91
That’s a pretty bad example. The union collapsed because it wasn’t able to keep up with the Jones (USA/West). When the West collapses there won’t be a “better system” outside of the West to look to, or move to. We therefore have to assume that the collapse will be fought against screaming and kicking. That will certainly not save, but it will prolong the system. Probably by several decades or even centuries.
BobInget on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 9:42 am
Netanyahu, Trump, seek a short, regional, one sided nuclear war as distraction, misdirection if you will from misdeeds. Breaking campaign laws etc. Nothing compared to thermonuclear war these two are intent on delivering.
Both men expect to come out of another ‘Great War’ vindicated.
Good luck world.
I believe Argentina may be far enough.
BobInget on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 9:47 am
http://www.euronews.com/2018/04/30/israel-eyed-after-hama-syria-attack-reportedly-kills-iranians-n870006
fmr-paultard on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 10:01 am
guys what’s the deal with low yield nukular last night in syria? it has to be LYN. it’s so muted today as far as the news is concerned.
Darrell Cloud on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 10:01 am
Hello, the center of influence tends to move towards the east as empires collapse. I suspect China is on the way up for a while. I’ll let you know what I see. I’m set to tour China in a month. My guess is that they are a better mix of the old and the new than most anything in the west. By that I mean that there seems to be some resiliency in their farming methods from what I have read. If Europe and the U.S. roll over, that will leave more oil for China.
In addition, they have a totalitarian state and a disarmed public. That will make it much easier to contain the coming chaos. The army will determine who eats and who starves.
onlooker on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 10:12 am
Die off is now a given as many places are way too populated, resources have been depleted and because our modern industrial civilization will be severly crippled. The hope is that after all is said and done, the Earth can still accomodate human life
Darrell Cloud on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 10:25 am
I’m with Kunstler on the idea that the system will run up against Liebig’s Law of the Minimum. There will be a tipping point. When the 1929 crash came, the countryside was not on the grid. My dad was plowing a mule in 1939. Farmers had come out of the iron age and were in the steel age, but the equipment and the techniques they used were a thousand years old. There was still no refrigeration. Canning had come along to augment their food stores, but they still smoked, salted and pickled their meat. Kerosene lamps lit up the house. Running water came in the form of a pitcher pump on the back porch. The sewage system consisted of an outhouse out back. A tub bath was not an everyday event and people boiled their cloths to get them clean. They made their own soap. Corn was in the crib and fresh eggs were in the chicken coop.
We do not have the safety net we had in 1929. Urbanites were one generation away from farm life. Many sent their wives and kids back to grandpa’s farm while they looked for work.
A hundred million people cannot walk out back and shoot a squirrel to cook up with some rice. Squirrels will become extinct in a fortnight. Hansel and Gretel is a fairytale based on a dark age reality.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 10:54 am
Oil Hedge Fund Manager Says $300 Oil ‘Not Impossible’
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-30/oil-hedge-fund-manager-andurand-says-300-oil-not-impossible
300 oil would be like 10 dollars a gallon gasoline…..(Shoots himself).
Mustermind on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 11:02 am
900 dollar oil is not impossible. 900 million dollar oil is not impossible. Prove I’m wrong, dipstick.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 11:18 am
Muster
I know peak oil is rearing its ugly head again..and this time there isn’t another shale miracle to save us….Looks like the original peak oilers got it right. Just missed the timing by a decade…it happens…
fmr-paultard on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 11:23 am
oil will be cheap or expensive depending on how much taxes the old white (non jewish) lady charges on car registration, fees, etc. i only meant to say jews don’t control the us like the eurotard indicated.
if currency is inflated in the us and the vacuums are deployed at higher frequency (the walmart , buffet, bill gates, bezos , sergey valuums) suck up all liquidity then cheap gas doens’t help keeping people on the road.
Dredd on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 11:50 am
“… the planet’s linked systems — soils, oceans, climate, mineral resources …”
Very astute Mr. Kunstler !
They have a governor and it is not us (Shadow of Time Governs The Earth – 3).
Boat on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 12:18 pm
Mm
If oPEC adds that 2+ mbpd back to the market shale production and oil prices would drop like a rock. There is no miricle, just collusion amongst a few big players and shales/US reaction to it.
Cloggie on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 12:49 pm
Obviously, my own venture into the fictionalized future of the World Made by Hand books depicted a much kinder and gentler re-set to life at the circa-1800 level of living, at least in the USA. Apparently, I’m a sentimental softie.
Both of us are at odds with the more generic techno-optimists who are waiting patiently for miracle rescue remedies like cold fusion
Kunstler, like most Americans, studiously ignores the meteoric rise of renewable energy in Europe.
In 2020 20% of the primary energy will be renewable.
European Parliament has decided to speed up the transition to the tune that by 2030 35% of primary energy needs to be renewable. On top of that energy overall efficiency will increase by 35%.
And then there is the enormous fuel saving potential of the publicly owned passenger shared autonomous car:
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/05/16/by-2030-you-wont-own-a-car/
Together it will guarantee that Europe in 10 years time will have a renewable energy base on the level of roughly 1970. We were already happy back then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFrGuyw1V8s
Heinberg, Kunstler, peak-oil-supply induced collapse… yesterday’s snow. Tall tales invented by drama queens passed expiration date.
Energy is not the problem, the environment is.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 12:55 pm
Netanyahu claims proof that Iran has secret nuclear weapons program
https://www.ft.com/content/d8d4c6f6-4c9a-11e8-8a8e-22951a2d8493
fmr-paultard on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 12:58 pm
ok that’s why they used low yield nukes to destroy iran’s facilities in syria. i get it now. let’s sick back and watch eurotard’s reaction to this? he doesn’t like low yield nukes. he likes the idea of an undergroudn bunker becahsue fuhrer used one.
low yield nukes bad for bunkers
Antius on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 1:16 pm
“European Parliament has decided to speed up the transition to the tune that by 2030 35% of primary energy needs to be renewable. On top of that energy overall efficiency will increase by 35%.”
Good, I guess. But don’t you think it’s a little strange that the European parliament is ‘telling’ you what energy sources to use? Is that really something that parliament should be doing?
makati1 on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 4:47 pm
“…expect our collapse to be as sudden and unexpected as the USSR’s…”
Only “unexpected” by the dumbed down average American citizen.
“I expect the collapse to express itself first in banking, finance, and markets”
Already happening, just not obvious…yet. Be patient.
“… it will spread through the financial systems the whole world round”
But not to the degree of pain that will happen in the 1st world. The more you have…the more pain when you don’t. Step down the ladder now, before it is pulled out from under you.
MASTERMIND on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 5:17 pm
Madkat
How the hell would you know how the collapse dynamics will happen. You have no proof and reject any evidence that you don’t like. You are an uneducated former construction worker. No offence but if someone needs a toilet fixed they will call you. Leave the collapse to the scientist.
makati1 on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 5:27 pm
MM, this is not the first collapse in history. I am a history buff and probably forgot more then you know about the subject. Intelligent thought, common sense and some experience in the real world makes it easy to see what is coming. Or, at least, a good idea of what to prepare for. That is why I no longer live in the fantasy land called America. I have a good idea what is coming and don’t want to be where the pain will be the worse. I warned my family, but it is their choice if and how to prepare. I cannot do anything to change it.
How is your mom these days? Getting tired of your whining? I would have kicked your ass out on the street by now. LOL
Davy on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 5:46 pm
3rd world, yea ok, the first world will see more pain but that is because many in the 3rd world will have already starved to death. No pain there, huh, 3rd world.
onlooker on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 6:20 pm
http://arctic-news.blogspot.it/2017/05/abrupt-warming-how-much-and-how-fast.html
The danger can be looked at on three dimensions: timescale, probability and severity. On the severity dimension, a 10°C temperature rise is beyond catastrophic, i.e. we’re talking about extinction of species at massive scale, including humans. On the probability dimension, the danger appears to be progressing inevitably toward certainty if no comprehensive and effective action is taken.In terms of timescale, a 10°C temperature rise could eventuate within a matter of years, which makes the danger imminent, adding further weight to the need to start taking comprehensive and effective action,”
Damien on Mon, 30th Apr 2018 6:28 pm
Former-Paultard
Why do I envision you as a facsimile of Hannibal Lecters Baltimore State Hospital neighbor, Multiple Miggs aka I can smell your cunt? Scarry.
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 1:05 am
“Dial T for Tyranny: While America Feuds, the Police State Shifts Into High Gear”
“What characterizes American government today is not so much dysfunctional politics as it is ruthlessly contrived governance carried out behind the entertaining, distracting and disingenuous curtain of political theater. … Played out on the national stage and eagerly broadcast to a captive audience by media sponsors, this farcical exercise in political theater can, at times, seem riveting, life-changing and suspenseful, even for those who know better. … A is for the AMERICAN POLICE STATE. A police state “is characterized by bureaucracy, secrecy, perpetual wars, a nation of suspects, militarization, surveillance, widespread police presence, and a citizenry with little recourse against police actions.””
https://rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/dial_t_for_tyranny_while_america_feuds_the_police_state_shifts_into_high_ge
“We have moved beyond the era of representative government and entered a new age.
You can call it the age of authoritarianism. Or fascism. Or oligarchy. Or the American police state.
Whatever label you want to put on it, the end result is the same: tyranny.”
deadly on Tue, 1st May 2018 1:39 am
More Heat Waves Happen When Greenhouse Gases Are Reduced!
The CO2 advocates simply predicted heat waves in the future, but anyone can do that and be right eventually. However, the mechanisms of every heat wave contradict nearly every aspect of the global warming theory. Less water vapor is associated with heat waves not more, so the greenhouse effect is lessened. Advocates argue increasing CO2 stores more heat, making heat waves more likely but Death Valley’s maximum temperatures have not exceeded the 1930s suggesting heat is not being trapped. Similarly most the recent heat waves have occurred in regions where maximum temperatures have not exceeded the 1940s. These heat waves are good examples of how natural weather dynamics cause extreme heat independently of the sun or CO2.
Davy on Tue, 1st May 2018 6:04 am
“less water vapor is associated with heat waves”
deadly, more intense heat evaporates soil moisture.
What is the killer for many regions just north of the equatorial zone especially in the ME, Africa, and Asia in the immediate future is the wet bulb temp. Some of these places will have temperatures and humidity so high that it will be dangerous to be outside during the day. It is projected that by the end of the century interior continental areas will have these dangerous humidities in the Summer like the US, Asia, South America.
efarmer on Tue, 1st May 2018 11:49 am
I will still grow a patch of wheat, and I will grow some corn, and I will pick berries, and with my own two hands, unlike most of the 50 million slobs left on Earth, I shall make the equivalent of at least 9 boxes of PopTarts. Then, using mirrors from a Tesla I find buried, I will fashion a solar toaster and toast them puppies a golden brown, and I will eat my PopTarts and shake my sticky fist at Kunstler, who let the cat out of the bag what made the whole world go snake like this.
dirt bikes on Tue, 1st May 2018 4:39 pm
interesting article
MASTERMIND on Tue, 1st May 2018 4:48 pm
Madkat
This is the first global collapse in history. You keep denying it is a global collapse because you can’t admit you made an unwise investment. I have showed you six peer reviewed studies that conclude this. You ignore them all and make up baseless conspiracies about the authors. Yet you have no evidence of the collapse being only the US..You are in total denial and denial and insanity are brothers.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 1st May 2018 4:48 pm
Madkat
This is the first global collapse in history. You keep denying it is a global collapse because you can’t admit you made an unwise investment. I have showed you six peer reviewed studies that conclude this. You ignore them all and make up baseless conspiracies about the authors. Yet you have no evidence of the collapse being only the US..You are in total denial and denial and insanity are brothers.
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 6:12 pm
MM, It will affect the whole globe to some extent, but not as much as it will affect the West and especially the Us. Evidence? Well, try common sense or even some rational thought, MM. I know you were taught in school and college to not think for yourself, but try it sometime. It may hurt in the beginning, but it will be a new experience for you.
Who has the most to lose? Answer: the Us and it’s wannabees. (The EU, Japan, Canada, Australia, etc.) That is where the most pain will be felt. Especially in the Us as it is already a failing empire, like Rome only faster.
Who has the least to lose? Answer: The billions who have nothing now. Who live day to day trying to survive. They will not even notice the change. Some of my neighbors here fit that category.
Not to mention that the world is moving away from the USD and has some financial safety nets already in place or in progress. (China/Russia)
BTW: You can stick your “peer reviewer” bullshit where the sun doesn’t shine because it is already old news and probably wrong by the time everyone agrees and it is published. AND, it is reviewed by like thinking “experts” whose paychecks depend on their mindset, not necessarily fact or truth. Example: All the so called doctors that pimped for the tobacco industry. Liars all and they knew it but took the $$$. Nothing changed, MM. It’s ALL about $$$.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 1st May 2018 6:58 pm
Madkat
Show me some proof that just the US will collapse. You are just like a flat earther. You can’t reason with people like them, all you can do is say ‘take me to the edge and show me”…Put up or shut the hell up!
You are lucky I even came around this blog and showed you the science of collapse. You are just an old washed up dirty construction worker.
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 7:14 pm
MM, just go out of your mom’s basement and look around at the real world. The collapse is obvious. I don’t need anyone to tell me it is happening. It is all around you.
I see it every time I visit the Us. I’m NOT the ‘frog in the pot’. I’m also outside the MSM propaganda box. I see the decay. Drugs. Obesity. Bad roads. Failing bridges. Cops with military gear. Surveillance cameras everywhere. And on and on.
I know what the US was like when it was really the “American Dream”, the 50s and 60s. I lived them. It is now the American nightmare and I am glad I no longer live there.
Please go away and spare us your arrogant immature rants, MM. Take Davy with you.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 1st May 2018 7:22 pm
Madkat
Personally I wish the collapse would just be the US. Why would I want others that I have never seen or met to be harmed? It makes no difference to me. I am just going with what the science says and it all says a global collapse. Hell global GDP has been contracting for forty years. The whole thing is being held together by low interest rates, QE, and exploding debts. Once the oil starts to run out! It will cause cascading defaults worldwide.
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
All I ask is that you admit you are just hoping/wishing/wanting the US to collapse. Its not based on any reason.
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 7:48 pm
MM, proof of the collapse…
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/65-public-school-8th-graders-not-proficient-reading-67-not-proficient
When I went to school,you didn’t graduate to the next grade unless you were able to pass the tests for that grade. Now…the snowflakes are dumbed down lower than a pig.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 1st May 2018 7:54 pm
Madkat
CNS news is a far right religious site..LOL and you didn’t even learn computers in your day. And your average IQ was way less than now of days. Due to the flynn effect. You didn’t even graduate college! You became a dirty hick construction worker. No better than a truck driver.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 1st May 2018 7:56 pm
Madkat
Collapse is a sociology issue. So I will need to see a peer reviewed scientific study that proves only the US will collapse. Hey its fine if you dont have any proof. but just be honest and say you hope/wish the US will collapse. And you have no reason to believe it.
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 7:56 pm
MM, why would I admit to something I do not agree with? The US needs to be dropped to its knees before it can start WW3. THAT is my main reason.
Sure there will be some hurt around the world, but the arrogance displayed by the Us “exceptionalism/indispensable nation’ bullshit is just that. Arrogant bullshit.
700+ Us ‘bases’ in 60+ countries need to go away. The hundreds of thousands of American troops still occupying Germany, Japan, South Korea, etc. need to go home to the Us. The USD needs to be deposed as the world reserve currency in favor of of the IMF basket of currencies.
As for this collapse to happen. Tomorrow would not be soon enough. Bring it on!
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 8:00 pm
“I will need to see a peer reviewed scientific study that proves only the US will collapse.” The college brainwashing was successful. I hope you didn’t pay much to have your thought process removed.
BTW: Collapse is a financial issue as much as, or even more so, than a sociology issue. It is a power struggle not a social one. That is all distraction, Mm.
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 8:08 pm
For MM:
“Your life’s story is made of results, not intentions.”
“You can’t find what you’re not looking for.”
“You may do whatever you wish, if you know your personal cost and are prepared to pay it without complaint.”
Ol’ Remus
MASTERMIND on Tue, 1st May 2018 8:32 pm
Madkat
I know what does science know anyways..I think you spent a little too much time wearing magic mormon underwear! And maybe your depends are on too tight now!
MASTERMIND on Tue, 1st May 2018 8:38 pm
Madkat
I won first place in Chess in the state of Indiana when I was in high school. When I graduated college I worked for AT&T a fortune ten company. And I was their top salesperson in the state of Michigan for two years in row. 24 straight months I was number one against around 300 other sales reps. I set the state record is sales in one month. I assure you I work for a living and have worked since I was 13. My family is working class poor and I never even got an allowance my whole life. I worked and bought my first car when I was 16 while nearly all my friends had cars given to them by their parents. I not so typical snowflake idiot. I took a year off from work in July last year, after I read the IEA’s warning about oil shortages coming by 2020 which was in the march 2017 wall street journal. Just because I figure I will never get to retire ever. so I might as well take some time off and chill before shit hits fans. If you don’t want to listen to me and ignore all the evidence that’s fine. But lets make one thing clear. I changed this fucking site the day I came along. And it will never be the same.
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 8:38 pm
12 year old MM is on line today.
“…you didn’t even learn computers in your day. And your average IQ was way less than now of days. Due to the Flynn effect. You didn’t even graduate college! You became a dirty hick construction worker. No better than a truck driver.”
Your ignorance, immaturity and really stupid arrogance does NOT make you correct, MM. In fact, it makes you appear to be exactly what I have been saying about you and your mental state. Buy that gun and get it over-with, child. Save the world all of the resources you will waste.
BTW: “now of days” is NOT correct English. Didn’t spell check catch that one? “nowadays: at the present time.” M-W LMAO
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 8:45 pm
Mm, you can claim anything but you cannot prove it. You prove your immaturity, arrogance, lack of experience and a real education in most every post. It is obvious to all here. Any other ‘claims’ are just that, unproven boasts.
I could be Bill Gate and you could not prove I was not. But, if you follow my comments, you know what I have done in my 74 years. I have no reason to lie. Liars have ot remember what lie they told to whom or be exposed. I save myself that trouble by telling the truth and just not giving too much info.
You might even be Davy. Nah! He is not able to keep his own bullshit straight. LOL
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 8:47 pm
a12 year old MM… “I think you spent a little too much time wearing magic mormon underwear! And maybe your depends are on too tight now!”
You insanity is beginning to show MM. No money for meds or is your pusher sick?
Davy on Tue, 1st May 2018 8:50 pm
3rd world, quit hogging the board. You are acting silly and stupid. It would be different if you made a contribution and enlightened us.
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 8:57 pm
MM… at the moment, by your own admission, you are unemployed. At your age, that is a sin you will regret unless you carry out the suicide you mentioned long ago. You have not a clue about the real world outside the Us MSM Iron Curtain, or what it entails to marry and raise a family, and you are afraid to find out.
I do not regret a moment of my life. I enjoyed it all and am enjoying my last decades, secure in a very nice country. Not bad for a “loser”, yes?
makati1 on Tue, 1st May 2018 9:00 pm
Davy, I notice 8 or 10 of your rants posted in a short time, frequently. I never read them, but you are still the hypocrite, among other negative things like immature comments and tons of smelly bullshit.
MASTERMIND on Tue, 1st May 2018 9:29 pm
Madkat
The min wage was around 17 dollars an hour while you worked (inflation adjusted). You could work at Mcdonalds and afford a house and family. So I am not that impressed. You hit the birth lottery of being born at the right time and place. Anyone in your shoes could have easily done the same. You are nothing special. You have never won any competitions like I have against others. When I worked at AT&T I dated a stripper who didn’t wear panties ever, and shaved all of her bush…You have never experienced what I have.