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Kunstler: Homework Assignment
Poor old Karl Marx, tortured by boils and phantoms, was right about one thing: History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce. Thus, I give you the Roman Empire and now the United States of America. Rome surrendered to time and entropy. Our method is to drive a gigantic clown car into a ditch.
Is anyone out there interested in redemption? I have an idea for the political party out of power, the Democrats, sunk in its special Okefenokee Swamp of identity politics and Russia paranoia: make an effort to legislate the Citizens United calamity out of existence. Who knows, a handful of Republicans may be shamed into going along with it. For those of you who have been mentally vacationing on Mars with Elon Musk, Citizens United was a Supreme Court decision — Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission 558 U.S. 310 (2010) — which determined that corporations had the right, as hypothetical “persons,” to give as much money as they liked to political candidates.
This “right” devolved from the First Amendment of the constitution, the 5-4 majority opinion said — giving money to political candidates and causes amounts to “freedom of speech.” The Citizens United ruling opened the door for unlimited election spending by corporations and enormous mischief in our national life. Then-President Obama — a constitutional law professor before his career in politics — complained bitterly about the opinion days later in his State of the Union address, saying that the court had “reversed a century of law to open the floodgates, including foreign corporations, to spend without limit in our elections.”
And for the next seven years he did absolutely nothing about it, nor did the Democratic Party majority in congress. Rather, they vacuumed in as much corporate campaign money as possible from every hokey political action committee (PAC) from sea to shining sea, especially in the 2016 presidential election starring Hillary “It’s My Turn” Clinton. It turned out to not be her turn in large part because the voters noticed the stench of corruption wafting off this toxic flow of corporate money, which Hillary was using to vastly outspend her billionaire opponent, troll that he was.
Of course, corporations have not always been what they are deemed to be today. They evolved with the increasingly complex activities of industrial economies. Along the way — in Great Britain first, actually — they were deemed to exist as the equivalent of legal persons, to establish that the liabilities of the company were separate and distinct from those of its owners. In the USA, forming a corporation usually required an act of legislation until the late 19th century. After that, they merely had to register with the states. Then congress had to sort out the additional problems of giant “trusts” and holding companies (hence, anti-trust laws, now generally ignored).
In short, the definition of what a corporation is and what it has a right to do is in a pretty constant state of change as economies evolve. And insofar as the current economy is sinking like the RMS Titanic — and our republic as a mode of governance with it — surely the time has come to redefine in legislation the role and existential nature of a corporation in this polity. This homework assignment should be given to the Democratic members of congress, since they are otherwise preoccupied only with hunting for Russian gremlins and discovering new sexual abnormalities to protect and defend.
The crux of the argument is that corporations cannot be said to be entirely and altogether the equivalent of persons for all legal purposes. In law, corporations have duties, obligations, and responsibilities to their shareholders first, and only after that to the public interest or the common good, and only then by pretty strict legal prescription. It may be assumed that the interests of corporations and their shareholders are in opposition to, and in conflict with, the public interest. And insofar as elections are fundamentally matters of the public interest, corporations must be prohibited from efforts to influence the outcome of elections.
That’s your assignment Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of the Democratic Party leadership. Get serious. Show a little initiative. Do something useful. Draw up some legislation. Get behind something real that might make a difference in this decrepitating country. Or get out of the way and let a new party do the job.
128 Comments on "Kunstler: Homework Assignment"
Ghung on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:06 am
While campaign finance reform has been a mantra of mine for years, I now see this as another unsolvable problem on a long list of predicaments. Those who have the power to change this have the least incentive to do so.
onlooker on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:17 am
As I have looked into the details of this planet and our existence on it, I have reached the conclusion that our economic/monetary successes have been a truly double edged sword. We have opened the floodgates to a profound and stupendous corruption that permeates all levels of society. But especially Politics. The political system of the US has been hijacked by financial interests. But you can say the same with every single government on the planet. The financial interests in the Capitalistic system have an avarice that does not allow them to not interfere in the political systems to get their way. So no new party is going to do the job, politics is the prostitution of the 21st century. Always amendable to receiving payments for their services. End the pergotives of money or money itself and maybe you have a chance at managing the interests of society for the welfare of all rather than a select few.
Darrell Cloud on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:35 am
It will never happen. Congress has been bought. The body politic will buy a fire extinguisher only after the national edifice has burned down. Do what you can to become self-reliant. Paddle your boat out of the main stream and hide and watch.
Go Speed Racer on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 1:44 pm
In Kunstler We Trust.
Why didn’t he talk about the
Dr Seuss books.
My vote is they pre-planned the
Dr Seuss books gifted to
only the best schools, as a
deliberate scheme to rile up
the liberals and it worked.
Now the liberals got all riled up
that they hate Dr Seuss books.
This has the effect of throwing
red meat to the flyover base.
It was preplanned.
Kunstler shoulda talked about it.
makati1 on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 6:39 pm
The FSofA has no future. Corruption is so ingrained in its government and its people that there is no chance for meaningful change. Congress is nothing more than leeches on the wealth of its citizens, puppets of corporations, and power hungry dictator wannabees. Pitchforks and guillotines (as in the French revolution) are the only cure.
Davy on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 6:45 pm
We are doing pretty well here mad-kat1. Life is a bitch anywhere you go. You have been away for so long you have no clue. All you do is surf the net for woeful news. What a loser.
Davy on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 7:00 pm
“CORRUPTION PERCEPTIONS INDEX 2016”
http://tinyurl.com/j68aoc8
rank 101 Philippines
rank 18 United States
makati1 on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 7:35 pm
‘In January 2017, the TI Secretariat confirmed that its International Board of Directors decided on 10 January 2017 to strip its US affiliate – Transparency International USA – of its accreditation as the National Chapter in the United States.[31] Transparency International USA joins Transparency Croatia in having its credentials stripped. The stated basis for the dis-accreditation was the Board’s recognition of differences in philosophies, strategies, and priorities between the former chapter and the Transparency International Movement. Elsewhere, it was reported that TI-USA come to been seen in the United States as a corporate front group, funded by multinational corporations – the same multinationals that corrupt the U.S. political system. TI-USA’s million dollar budget was provided by Bechtel Corporation, Deloitte, Google, Pfizer ($50,000 or more), Citigroup, ExxonMobil, Fluor, General Electric, Lockheed Martin, Marsh & McLennan, PepsiCo, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Raytheon, Realogy, Tyco ($25,000–$49,999), and Freeport-McMoRan and Johnson & Johnson (up to $24,999).[32] TI-USA previously awarded an annual corporate leadership award to one of its big corporate funders. In 2016, this award went to Bechtel.” WIKI
Ah yes, Davy, a very reliable source of info. NOT! It is as corrupt as the US. LMAO
Davy on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 7:43 pm
So are you saying the p’s is not corrupt? Do you have any numbers to support where it ranks? This should be fun!
Davy on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 7:47 pm
Oh, mad-kat1 do you have the link. You forgot your link as usual.
fmr-paultard on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 8:04 pm
i think it’d be safer in the city. shut the windows and doors and you’re safe from abu sayaf. out there in open country, it’s no brainer to be discovered. with prevalence of belief in aswang, it’s on a matter of time before the belief that white meat is the cure.
you can say i have a fertile imagination but these things happen. maybe white mean would be approdisiac, who knows.
fmr-paultard on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 8:11 pm
You can say cattle mutilation but quackery is only part of alt tard media currently and harmless. But you can be sure only a matter of time before the cure for Aswang is white meat. This is how the folksy brain works
JuanP on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 8:19 pm
Political corruption is a global problem. Democracy doesn’t work at this scale. Capitalism is destroying the biosphere. The damage they do together is exponentially worse. The situation is completely hopeless. Things will keep getting worse in this planet for the rest of our lives. Get ready!
Boat on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 8:46 pm
Did cheeto mess with EIA forecasts? Check the chart.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4110768-shouldve-expected-eia-914-shows-monthly-production-lower-weekly-estimates
Apneaman on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 8:50 pm
Like I’ve been saying for years the consequences of AGW are going to break the bank – Once again, I am correct.
Costs of Climate Change: Early Estimate for Hurricanes, Fires Reaches $300 Billion
A new report starts adding up the damage from the past few weeks of western wildfires and Hurricanes Harvey, Irma and Maria. It sees climate costs rising.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/28092017/hurricane-maria-irma-harvey-wildfires-damage-cost-estimate-record-climate-change
$Cha ching, Cha fucking ching$
Hey clog fag, remember 6 months ago when you said AGW would have no ‘significant’ effect? Ya you do.
I’m right & you are WRONG.
Go Speed Racer on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 9:04 pm
Let’s all go to Mars.
If we bring old tires and sofa’s with us,
we can terraform the martian atmosphere —
by setting them on fire on Mars.
It will thicken the atmosphere and
reduce cosmic radiation.
Sissyfuss on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 9:07 pm
Paulywallytardamundo, you have a fertile imagination because of all the compost in your cranium.
deadlykillerbeaz on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 9:14 pm
And we’re all driving rocket ships
And talking with our minds
And wearing turquoise jewelry
And standing in soup lines
We are standing in soup lines
– John Prine
Sorry, John Prine is better than Kunstler. So there!
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnprine/livinginthefuture.html
Cheers!
GregT on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:28 pm
“Did cheeto mess with EIA forecasts?”
Trump was elected on the false pretence that he would make America Great again by draining the swamp. The EIA is part of that swamp, and Trump never really had any intentions of making America great again to begin with. So no, Trump did not mess with the EIA forecasts.
Plantagenet on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:36 pm
The Ds are too busy raking BIG campaign donations to sponsor legislation to limit campaign donations. Look at 2016—-Hillary spent 1.2 BILLION dollars on her campaign—about 3 times more than Trump. Do you really think future Ds are going to turn off the spigot of campaign donations when they are far outspending the Rs?
Cheers!
Anonymouse1 on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:38 pm
Just like boatietard, trump likely has no real clue what the EIA even is, or why he should care. Trump only reads at a tweet level of education, which, while better than boatietard’s, is hardly anything to write home about. I wouldn’t be surprised if trumps signs his name the same way you do boatytard.
With a big ‘X’.
makati1 on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:38 pm
Davy, I KNOW that the US is much more corrupt than most every country in the world. It does not need some think tank chart to prove that. Look at the daily news. Look at who is the Prez. Look at the MIC, CIA and FBI. Look at Killary Klinton. Just open your narrow mind and look. All governments have some corruption, but the US is Number One by far.
What link? You said you ignore the links I attach so why bother. Here it is… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_International#History
I know more about the FSofA than you ever will, Davy. Your vision is too narrow to take it all in. You only see what you want to see and that is not reality.
GregT on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:39 pm
“So are you saying the p’s is not corrupt? ”
No Davy, Makati is saying that the US is corrupt. Do you have any information that suggests that what Makati is saying is not true? If so, please provide your sources.
makati1 on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:40 pm
Sissy, fmr is a joke. Insane or high? Maybe both?
Anonymouse1 on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:41 pm
Hey plantytard, who are these ‘D’s and ‘R’s you keep yammering about? They must be important to you, since you are too lazy and\or stupid to even specify what they are supposed to mean.
Since it is you though, Ill take a guess since they are letters clearly admire
D = Dumbass
R = Retard
Sounds about right.
Cherrior retard!
GregT on Fri, 29th Sep 2017 11:48 pm
” Do you really think future Ds are going to turn off the spigot of campaign donations when they are far outspending the Rs?”
No Planter, both side are corrupted by the same sources. Your government has been hijacked a very long time ago, and you don’t have a choice in the matter. Two faces of the same old con/ coin.
makati1 on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 3:34 am
“The antibiotic age might be over.”
https://www.wired.com/story/the-post-antibiotic-era-is-here-now-what
“Just last week, the World Health Organization released a report analyzing all the antibacterial agents currently in clinical development. Its conclusions were grim: not enough drugs, not enough innovation. There’s already some amount of pre-existing resistance to just about every one of the 51 treatments coming down the line.”
We are approaching the cliff.
makati1 on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 3:43 am
“We’re going to have more people on less land and sooner than we think,” said Charles Geisler, professor emeritus of development sociology at Cornell University. “The future rise in global mean sea level probably won’t be gradual. … . A recent University of Georgia study found that rising sea levels could drive U.S. coastal residents far inland … But for some coastal regions, rising seas and hurricanes aren’t the only cause for alarm: the coastal lands in Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina are sinking by up to 3mm a year,…”
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/09/many-500-year-storms-will-people-endure-start-abandoning-coastal-cities.html
And the beat goes on.
Cloggie on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 3:55 am
Clogmeister sir, remember 6 months ago when you said AGW would have no ‘significant’ effect? Ya you do.
I’m right & you are WRONG
Hurricanes have been with us, or you rather, throughout the ages. The point is that we have so much stuff that the same hurricane cause much more destruction.
And hey, let’s get real. In the greedy Amurrican horniness to attempt to conquer the entire world, you folks neglected to keep an eye on your infrastructure. That’s a no-no.
As I have pointed out to you before, what you folks need to do is turn to your Dutch buddies and order a decent dike and drainage system. That will cost your a fraction of the yearly returning cost of hundreds of billions of $ wasted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUqrBV4SiqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA0IiB9Pn7g
How to pay for it? Well simple. Your have 10 carriers or so. Again give your European buddies a ring (I mean a phone call, what do you think we are, sissies?), and we can turn these useless carriers that can be sunk with a single super-sonic missile everybody has these days and turn them into tens of thousands of windturbines, the Europeans can install for you, just like they setup a beginning of a wind energy base, like the Texans now enjoy.
In this way you can save 40% on your XXL military budget and insist that your European brothers will carry more of the mutual defense burden. Actually that is exactly what Macron was proposing earlier this week.
What’s not to like?
Miick on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 4:16 am
Hey gsr you might be onto something wouldn’t all that extra co2 into the atmosphere from all the soot and carbon released from the bonfires be good for plant growth?. Only problem is how do we get the sofas n tires over there. Mabey Elon must can help
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 4:22 am
“Trump was elected on the false pretence that he would make America Great again by draining the swamp.”
No he didn’t get elected on that pretense. He got elected because Hillary lost the election.
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 4:25 am
“What link? You said you ignore the links I attach so why bother. Here it is… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_International#History”
Sorry, mad-kat1, go back to the original article I posted. It is not from the American branch you say is corrupted. It is coming from the German one and you haven’t showed it is corrupted. Do some research and get back to me.
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 4:27 am
“No Davy, Makati is saying that the US is corrupt. Do you have any information that suggests that what Makati is saying is not true? If so, please provide your sources.”
Grehg, can’t you read and follow comment feeds?
“CORRUPTION PERCEPTIONS INDEX 2016”
http://tinyurl.com/j68aoc8
rank 101 Philippines
rank 18 United States
I am showing the US is corrupt and the P’s is significantly more corrupt. Do you have any numbers to dispute that?
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 4:31 am
“And hey, let’s get real. In the greedy Amurrican horniness to attempt to conquer the entire world, you folks neglected to keep an eye on your infrastructure. That’s a no-no.”
We are fine clogged. We are a big continental size country with a variety of regions. We are a 3rd world and 1st world country. We have world class infrastructure and we have decaying infrastructure. We are still kicking your ass on many metrics. So you are puke puking
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 4:34 am
“we can turn these useless carriers that can be sunk with a single super-sonic missile”
Are you upset because you widdle Euroland can’t project power? I know China and Russia are and China is doing something about it and that is building them. That is a big affirmative good buddy. If a US carrier is sunk by a hyper sonic missile that country will get some vaporization too and that will likely be the onset of WWIII. You won’t need windmills after WWIII, clogged.
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 4:38 am
“We’re going to have more people on less land and sooner than we think,” said Charles Geisler, professor emeritus of development sociology at Cornell University.”
Yea, the worst is ahead in Asia especially places like the P’s that are already out of room.
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 4:49 am
“Every Single Cognitive Bias in One Infographic”
http://tinyurl.com/y7qey5fb
mad-kat1, you may want to dwell on this pretty info graph and determine some of your issues.
GregT on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 5:11 am
“No Davy, Makati is saying that the US is corrupt. Do you have any information that suggests that what Makati is saying is not true? ”
“I am showing the US is corrupt”
Thanks Davy. Sounds like we all agree on one thing at least.
Cloggie on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 5:28 am
We are fine clogged.
No you are not. You are on the edge of a civil war, your infrastructure is decaying. For over five years you yourself have been doing nothing bot preaching doom. You call yourself even today a “doomer” and now all of a sudden you are “fine”. In reality you are a depressed individual who knows that the US empire and likely even your country are over.
We are a 3rd world and 1st world country.
Correction. You were a first world country, and now you are en route to become a third world country. You are deliberately being killed by your own (((deep state))) political overclass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOMsCUeZ6rw
PCR repeated his message 3 months ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4EOXC7Go7A
We are still kicking your ass on many metrics.
In the production of gallons of sugar water perhaps, but not much else. We are ahead of you in most areas and the gap will be widening.
Are you upset because you widdle Euroland can’t project power?
What do you mean we can’t project power? France has nukes as well and can destroy the US completely per button push (not that they will). Your XXL military is an anachronism, because you can’t use it, other than against small countries. And even if you do use your military against smaller powers, it invariably turns into a disaster, never a victory with the single glorious exception of Grenada (10,000 inhabitants).
I know China and Russia are and China is doing something about it and that is building them. That is a big affirmative good buddy.
Euroland is on the verge of setting up a Euro-army itself. Combined European forces are already much larger than Russia and China individually. The gap with the US will be closed within a decade.
If a US carrier is sunk by a hyper sonic missile that country will get some vaporization too and that will likely be the onset of WWIII.
Wrong, it won’t. If a US carrier with hostile intentions is approaching the Chinese coast in times of high tensions and sunk, the US will certainly retaliate, but will think twice to destroy a large Chinese city, which would be a highly disproportionate all-out escalation. The Chinese would retaliate likewise.
Stalin already knew: nukes are useless because you can’t use them against adversaries who have them too: Mutual Assured Suicide.
For both China and US the rule applies that if even one big city is vaporized, the rulers lose control over their country, because citizens from big cities will try to flee from these cities, creating such a tremendous chaos that a country will become ungovernable. Rulers know that, so again MAD will likely apply, at least between major powers. Smaller powers like NK or Pakistan, that is a different story.
GregT on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 5:32 am
“No he didn’t get elected on that pretense. He got elected because Hillary lost the election.”
So are you saying that Trump’s election campaign to “Make America Great Again”, and to “drain the swamp”, had no bearing on Hilliary losing?
Interesting take. I’d be willing to bet that tens of millions of Americans would disagree with you. My personal take is that Americans were fed up with the lies, corruption, and illegal warmongering. The offshoring of jobs, unemployment, poor access to a corrupt medical system, poverty, inequality, crumbling infrastrucutre, violent crime, drug addiction, and the widespread propaganda machine that is the U.S. mainstream media.
Of course I could be confused, and Vladamir Putin really was single handedly responsible for electing The Donald as POTUS. Those commies are smart like that.
makati1 on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 5:34 am
Delusional Davy, I saw that earlier. Not interested. I know me. You do not. Although you ASSUME you do.
As for out of room in the Ps, you obviously have never been here. Most of the Ps is still jungle, and can be used to feed a lot more people than already exists here. That it has not been used is because, for the last few decades, it has not been needed. Our farm is perfect example. It was jungle until 5 years ago when we started to developer it. The land around it is now also being developed by our new neighbors. There are hundreds of square miles of similar land just waiting to be used.
This is not Bangladesh, much as you would like to think it is. If you thin at all. Emotions are not good at rational thought.
Might I remind you: Davy on Fri, 21st Jul 2017 5:47 am “You can’t know a people unless you live with them. You can know about them and relate that to yourself but you must live there to know.” Ring a bell? LOL
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 5:42 am
“You call yourself even today a “doomer” and now all of a sudden you are “fine”.
Your problem is impatience clog and also you are in denial. This is an all inclusive systematic process that includes Euroland. Agendas need not apply when understanding this. That counts you out.
Clogged, no need to comment on the rest of your puke. I stand by my statements. We are fine in decline. You can’t project power currently and there is no indication you will in the future. China and Russia will not sink a US carrier unless they are ready for WWIII.
Touche’
GregT on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 5:44 am
“mad-kat1, you may want to dwell on this pretty info graph and determine some of your issues.”
Wow Davy, if anybody should be dwelling on that ‘pretty info graph’ that somebody should be you. Sums your issues and delusions up with a Capital T.
GregT on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 5:48 am
“China and Russia will not sink a US carrier unless they are ready for WWIII.”
They’re probably just waiting for the U.S. Navy to do it themselves. The track record has not exactly been stellar as of late.
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 5:48 am
grehg, Trump had no chance of winning until Hillary screwed up. It is simple as that. You are complicating things as usual. Trump did not have momentum with enough of the electorate until Hillary failed herself. Hillary’s base was not mobilize properly. Once Hillary stumbled and Trump got his message out to his base a powerful movement materialized from all sides. It was a perfect storm for the Dems. This is about Hillary losing not Trump winning.
“Americans were fed up with the lies, corruption, and illegal warmongering. The offshoring of jobs, unemployment, poor access to a corrupt medical system, poverty, inequality, crumbling infrastrucutre, violent crime, drug addiction, and the widespread propaganda machine that is the U.S. mainstream media.”
I bet you enjoyed that part of your comment. LOL typical Canadian anti-American.
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 5:56 am
Might I remind you: Davy on Fri, 21st Jul 2017 5:47 am “You can’t know a people unless you live with them. You can know about them and relate that to yourself but you must live there to know.” Ring a bell? LOL
Yea is rings a bell, mad-kat1, numbers don’t lie. 100MIL people in an area the size of Arizona. Your overpopulated Island of Luzon is 53MIL and hemmed in by mountains on many sides. Forest and fisheries are in decline and localized failure. Salt water intrusion and pollution are widespread. Your above referenced statement was to clogged mind and his internet understanding of the American people. Geography is a different story mad-kat1. Get a grip the number are against your agenda that you are in a refuge. Look at these densities and keep in mind you have volcanos, earthquakes, flooding, and typhoons.
http://tinyurl.com/yc8ehp9q
http://tinyurl.com/ya22wtqa
The numbers say your screwed mad-kat. I know I face my on list of dangers. My point is when studying numbers agenda’s need not apply. That counts you out.
GregT on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 6:00 am
I spent a great deal of time both reading, and listening to Americans voicing their concerns during the last election. All of those issues were at the forefront.
Trump won, because Hillary lost? That’s a pretty sad narrative Davy, and paints an extremely disfunctional picture of the USA. Would you not agree? Sorry, but I don’t think that America is that dysfunctional, yet.
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 6:00 am
“Wow Davy, if anybody should be dwelling on that ‘pretty info graph’ that somebody should be you. Sums your issues and delusions up with a Capital T.”
Only after you grehg, at least I am honest and not in west coast Canadian denial. I am not completely self-absorbed in anti-Americanism and smug self-promotion. Come to think about it you need to study that chart more than mad-kat1. He just needs to go to a nursing home. You have several years until they will accept you. In the mean time you need help grehg before you alienate all those around you with you stalking and pricking.
Cloggie on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 6:02 am
Your problem is impatience clog and also you are in denial.
Impatience? I am constantly preaching patience with regard to setting up a renewable energy base, which will take decades.
Denial? With what?
Clogged, no need to comment on the rest of your puke.
There we go again. If cornered simply do not reply. Just like with historic revisionism. You can’t win, so you call your opponent puke and move on.
We are fine in decline.
Yeah, just like the masochist loves the whip.
You can’t project power currently and there is no indication you will in the future.
France can destroy you completely in 30 minutes, but for you that is “puke”. Oh the shear depth of your intellectualism!
China and Russia will not sink a US carrier unless they are ready for WWIII.
Russia and China do all they can to avoid a major conflict but if the US is ready for WW3, so will be Russia and China.
‘Touche’
In real life references by yourself or mum don’t count. Just as ridiculous as in “Coca Cola, the best there is!” (sponsored message by Coca Cola)
Davy on Sat, 30th Sep 2017 6:02 am
“They’re probably just waiting for the U.S. Navy to do it themselves. The track record has not exactly been stellar as of late.”
Ha Ha Ha, correct but from what I have seen it is likely they have been hacked and I am sure they will learn from these cyber intrusions. This will make the US navy stronger.