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I’m Burned Out On Collapse And I Bet You Are Too
The Hidden Psychological Toll of Living Through a Time of Fracture
It was around Thanksgiving that I noticed that all I wanted to do was sleep. And it wasn’t the leftover turkey. My mind felt bruised to a livid purple welt. Just thinking felt — disturbingly — painful. My bones felt as weary as dust. And that fine dust seemed to cover everything, leaving my world cloudy, hazy, foggy, slow-motion, indistinct. The dust sang sweet lullabies of slumber.
Just sleep, it would murmur, please, let yourself rest, doesn’t it feel sweet. So one part of me would plead with another for sleep, for rest, over and over again. The other part, annoyed and alarmed in equal measure by such self-indulgence, such laziness, replied sternly: you’ve slept plenty long enough today! And commanded me to sternly to leap up, write, work, meet, discuss, talk, go, do — like everything was fine, normal, pretty good.
(Now, one of the strange things about the sunlight being able to kill you is that you come to know yourself pretty well. You listen to your internal signs and signals, the movements and pulses of the strange and unknowable thing called a body, its rivers and oceans, its beats and murmurs. And yet I couldn’t pin down just why I felt so tired. So sleepy. So utterly exhausted. Lethargic, drained, done, like all those rivers and oceans had turned to deserts and parched earth.)
By about a week later, I was a walking zombie. I’d toss and turn at night, then leap out of bed, groaning with frustration, and pace from the living room to the bedroom to the bathroom and back again. Wait — wasn’t I worn out? So why was sleep eluding me? Then I’d sleepwalk through the day. I’d sleepwrite through my daily essays (forgive me for all the recent typos, now you know why.) I’d wake up, and — snap! — my mind would go numb. It would simply shut itself down. Every cell, feeling, sensation in my body seemed to want was to hibernate blackly through the darkness of a white winter.
It took me a week or so to put my finger on it. I don’t have a particularly stressful life. Or do I? I rouse myself, go have coffee, write, do my little consulting projects, coach a few people here and there. It’s pretty low-key. I can’t manage much more, to tell you the truth. There’s a reason none of the storybook vampires ever have nine to five jobs. And yet nobody who can’t sleep, can’t think, feels so inexplicably tired all the time can tell you they’re not feeling some kind of acute, systemic stress. So what the blazes was it that was stressing me out?
So I confessed to my friends Tucker, Elena, and James. Weirdly, they were all feeling more or less the same way, they admitted reluctantly, when I pressed them a little. Sleepless — but restless. Exhausted — but wide awake. Sleepwalking through the day. Worn out, drained, wrecked. Minds numb. Fatigued and stunned — all at the same time. What the hell was wrong with all of us? Was there something in the drinking water in London, New York, Paris, and San Francisco? And then it hit me.
I was burned out on collapse. And so were they. Our lives might not be particularly stressful in some kind of narrow personal sense — but they’d become profoundly, severely distressed in what you might call a psychosocial one. Living through an age of fracture and decline — if not outright shattering collapse: it’s an exhausting, soul-crushing thing.
I’m burned out on collapse — and I’d bet you are too. It’s not easy living in a time like this. It sucks the life out of you, drains you, changes you. Just being there. Just watching it all go down. Just going on to fight through another day. That’s the truth. Give yourself a round of applause. You deserve it. Cry a little tear for yourself. You deserve that, too. You’ve been tested — in a difficult, deep, and painful way. But let’s think about what all those emotions really mean.
Now, I won’t give you the usual rigmarole. You know: get-off-the-internet-and-practice-self-care. I think all this cuts a little deeper than that. I’ll simply talk you through what I noticed in myself, and you can judge for yourself if it applies to you, too. You can be honest — nobody’s listening but you. (And let me say emphatically that isn’t a plea for pity, though it’s always nice to know that you care about me. It’s just a little reflection, that I thought I’d share with you, about the psychological price of living in an age of collapse.)
The first thing that I noticed, if I looked at myself, was that almost the instant I woke up, my mind was shutting itself down. Snap! It was like it decided, all by itself, to operate at a quarter speed. I’d struggle for words, to make decisions, and so forth. Any good psychologist would probably have noted that this was a kind of protective measure — a defense mechanism, kicking into high gear. Technically, several at once: denial, compartmentalization, possibly regression, maybe even a little bit of dissocation. But from what? Such a sudden, intense defensive posture tells us that a mind is under acute pressure, tension, conflict. It prefers the bliss of ignorance to the anxieties of a dreaded reality. Snap! Shutdown.
In the case of you and I, I think the cause of that tension, that pressure, that conflict, is pretty easy to understand. Who wants to wake up and read the news? Who wants to pore over the grim headlines anymore? We say casually that they’re full of bad news. But the truth is a little tougher to bear. To constantly read a litany of things like your society’s broken, the planet’s melting down, the capitalists have left you broke, and the fascists are rising — it’s psychologically ruinous.
Human beings don’t need to awash in a warm bath of good news — that’s destructive, too. But when reality itself has turned into something like a grotesque, bizarre dystopia — then just making contact with it is deeply psychologically stressful.
How stressful? Like me, during the course of 2018, many of my friends began to develop trouble sleeping. Not just minor-league trouble — but staying up many nights a week levels of trouble. Now, all this is doubly ironic for me, because I stay up all night anyways, because the sun can melt my blood. So there I was, staying all day…staying up all night. No sleep till the apocalypse. It should have occurred to all of us sooner, I guess. If we’d talked about it, noticed, we would have soon uncovered the next thing a good psychologist would: we were going into hyper vigilance and hyperarousal. Another sign of severe psychological distress — this time, bordering on trauma.
Now, another irony was I’d written many times, in 2018, that I thought this era was leaving many people with low-level PTSD. How absurd and funny then that I didn’t see it my friends and myself, when it was right in front of me. Really, you might wonder, PTSD? Come on! But that’s exactly what I think a good psychologist would and should say about many of us today — maybe not that we “have PTSD”, but certainly that we have been traumatized. To be traumatized is to be exposed to death, of violence, to feel threatened with one’s own nonexistence, or that of a loved one. And a good psychologist would know that none of that has to be “direct.” You don’t have to be the one who is hit by an abuser to be traumatized by abuse. You merely have to be in proximity to such a thing, for the experience to ripple out and strike you, too.
But isn’t that precisely what this age feels like? Proximity to, if not direct experience of, relentless, gruesome, needless, abuse after abuse? Abuse of power. Abuse of societies. Abuse of democracy. Of technology. Abuse of the planet. Violence against the vulnerable. An indifference to life and truth and decency. Capitalism, greed, devastation. Fire, famine, flood. Skyrocketing poverty amongst soaring riches.
Wouldn’t watching all of that make sane person burn with rage, pound with anxiety, shudder with dread, go cold with panic? It does me, and I think that you the only person you’re kidding is yourself if you pretend it doesn’t do just that to you, on some level, too. This, my friends, is a traumatized time, generation, milieu, society, world.
Imagine watching your house burn down. Imagine being in a car crash. Imagine watching a highway pileup happen in front of you. Every day. Over and over again. We might not be there physically — but that is precisely where we are psychologically. We are forced to watch our house burn down — or be burned down — every day. The house of democracy, the planet, the future, society, prosperity.
What’s worse, it’s addictive — and it’s always on, like a weird, gruesome spectacular machine of destruction. It’s a click away. Just tap Twitter, Facebook, whatever, and wham!! There’s this age’s choice of catastrophes, on auto-repeat, every instant of the day or night. You can’t really escape it — unless you decide to forsake the modern world and become a hermit. And it’s not just always going, this machine. Sometimes, it feels better to watch it than not to watch it — because at least bearing witness is the responsible, mature thing to do. And so we watch our house being burned down by this giant machine of ruin, obsessively-compulsively — never quite fully knowing that the price is anxiety, dread, panic, powerlessness, hopelessness. In short, trauma.
That’s probably why we’re having less sex, why we’re so depressed, why we’re so unhappy, why we’re committing suicide more and more. We’ve been traumatized — “burned out on collapse” — and we don’t quite know it. But only a traumatized world, society, time, generation, place, ends up like that. Feels so powerless, hopeless, desperate, guilty, ashamed, bad. You can tell me you don’t feel those things, and maybe you yourself don’t. But what else does it say when the pulse of society is taken today — and what it beats with is despair, fury, and sorrow?
It’s obvious to say that people worry these days — what happens if I get cancer? Will I have to off myself so the kids don’t have to pay medical bills? But that is being traumatized. It is not a thing that anyone should have to worry about in a remotely normal, or decent, time, society, or place. And yet that’s just the beginning.
I’ve come to think that we live in something like an age of trauma. Many of us are instantly traumatized from the moment that we wake up. Today, this school was shot up. See that poor guy? He had to crowdfund insulin. Those little children were put on trial, and then sent to a concentration camp. The planet’s melting down. The rich are getting richer. Your income hasn’t gone up in decades. How are you going to survive? These are just everyday thoughts that might be provoked by simply glancing at the news, Twitter, Facebook, and so on. But they are also the stuff of panic attacks, of palpitations, of profound distress that must be buried deep where it isn’t seen or felt. They are the stuff of trauma. They are the living essence of a constant exposure to death, to nonexistence, to violence.
I’m burned out on collapse, and I’d bet you are too.
It goes without saying: “Umair, you need to take better care of yourself.” I always do. I smoke and drink and rage and weep when I see old couples and stand right there in the sun, daring it to kill me, sometimes, never really knowing why, wondering like a child about the strange, improbable miracle that it can. I do need to take better care of myself. But that’s besides the point. Who doesn’t?
We need to take better care of all of us. We need to take better care of the wounded parts of us — individually, as societies, as a world. And to do that, the reverse, strangely, maybe beautifully, is also true. We need all of us to take better care of each other, too.
So hang in there. Stay loving, stay gentle, stay kind. Sleep, rest, breathe, eat. Well. Taking care begins with the basics. Above all, stay true. It’s OK to admit it. This has been a terrible, unforgiving, horrific year. It’s been a psychological catastrophe for all of us. You don’t need to keep it inside. It’s the greatest gift that you can give, to share your burdens, sometimes. That way, we grow.
Umair
December 2018
https://eand.co/im-burned-out-on-collapse-and-i-bet-you-are-too-70114c184c02
75 Comments on "I’m Burned Out On Collapse And I Bet You Are Too"
Hawkcreek on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 10:31 am
Needs more cheese with that whine.
Jef on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 10:48 am
I’m so old I remember when we all got burned out hearing about killing the jews. Everyone was saying “did you hear, they killed a million more women and children (which by the way we are doing it today only replace jew with Muslim)?
Eventually we all just went about our business going to work, making money, and buying stuff.
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:36 am
I am not burned out on collapse but I am more sober about it. I was once a bit of an extremist doomer and prepper. That has gradually changed over the last 5 years with the decline in the PO dangers and the stabilization of the economy. I am now more realistic about peak oil and the potential for catastrophic financial ruin. It is not the immediate threat but they both are terminal and together unbeatable. Climate change and the 6th great extinction are a slow motion disaster. I am more worried about NUK war unfortunately. I am very upset with the current world order especially the part the US plays in it.
My doom change of heart is now been manifested in me enjoying life in the here and now. Yet, still prepping and studying the academics of doom. I continue to hope renewables will transform our lives offering us a few years to adapt to what will eventually be a very nasty decline. I have a renewable system and plan on expanding it. I have my doomstead as complete as it needs to be. I have explored prep completely but still learn new tricks daily. Once the immediate prep activity has been covered then it is about long term efforts. It is about teaching others and it is about community. It is about building a new life with the best of the modern world we live in with a hybrid incorporation of the old ways before modernism. The biggest change is attitude for me. I still look around and see the unsustainable and brittle resilience of a way of life with no future yet, I just accept it now instead of getting angry over it. It is what it is and it will not be changed much until it just stops. We may have a decade or two or it could be over tomorrow. This sounds like all of our lives. None of us know if we will be here tomorrow. Anyway don’t get tired of collapse just get real about it.
This is JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:38 am
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:36 am
I am not burned out on collapse but I am more sober about it. I was once a bit of an extremist doomer and prepper. That has gradually changed over the last 5 years with the decline in the PO dangers and the stabilization of the economy. I am now more realistic about peak oil and the potential for catastrophic financial ruin. It is not the immediate threat but they both are terminal and together unbeatable. Climate change and the 6th great extinction are a slow motion disaster. I am more worried about NUK war unfortunately. I am very upset with the current world order especially the part the US plays in it.
My doom change of heart is now been manifested in me enjoying life in the here and now. Yet, still prepping and studying the academics of doom. I continue to hope renewables will transform our lives offering us a few years to adapt to what will eventually be a very nasty decline. I have a renewable system and plan on expanding it. I have my doomstead as complete as it needs to be. I have explored prep completely but still learn new tricks daily. Once the immediate prep activity has been covered then it is about long term efforts. It is about teaching others and it is about community. It is about building a new life with the best of the modern world we live in with a hybrid incorporation of the old ways before modernism. The biggest change is attitude for me. I still look around and see the unsustainable and brittle resilience of a way of life with no future yet, I just accept it now instead of getting angry over it. It is what it is and it will not be changed much until it just stops. We may have a decade or two or it could be over tomorrow. This sounds like all of our lives. None of us know if we will be here tomorrow. Anyway don’t get tired of collapse just get real about it.
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:41 am
This is the real Davy
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:36 am
I am not burned out on collapse but I am more sober about it.
Outcast_Searcher on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:45 am
Apparently it would be a REAL tragedy if we hand ANY meaningful signs of real global collapse!
Mean time, at least in the first world, we have relatively consistent prosperity for the vast majority of people. And with government programs for the “poor”, very few people actually have real financial hardship.
And yet, all this whining. The guy’s lifestyle reminds me of mine. I call it idyllic retirement, with tons of free time to do what I please — earned from a solid career of hard work. What could be better than that?
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:46 am
“Watch Paris Burn Live As Yellow Jacket Riots Continue Into Night”
https://tinyurl.com/y7ud6hlt
Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:00 pm
bad news for PBBM
when chinese and rissans not steling tech from supertards they evade sanctions
chinese exec arrested in canada
This is JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:02 pm
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:41 am
This is the real Davy
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:36 am
I am not burned out on collapse but I am more sober about it.
This is JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:03 pm
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:46 am
“Watch Paris Burn Live As Yellow Jacket Riots Continue Into Night”
https://tinyurl.com/y7ud6hlt
This is JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:04 pm
Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:00 pm
bad news for PBBM
when chinese and rissans not steling tech from supertards they evade sanctions
chinese exec arrested in canada
Cloggie on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:19 pm
“Watch Paris Burn Live As Yellow Jacket Riots Continue Into Night”
https://tinyurl.com/y7ud6hlt
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/in-france-the-pain-behind-the-yellow-vest-protests-is-felt-mostly-outside-paris/2018/11/30/9b3db7c2-f18a-11e8-99c2-cfca6fcf610c_story.html
“Skeptics also highlight a perceived dominance of white men among the yellow vests, and the movement’s leaders refused to meet with France’s prime minister once they learned the meeting would not be filmed and broadcast live.”
This is a very interesting development, the rise not only of a robust pro-nationalist populist right, but also of a populist left.
– France: yellow vests
– Italy: Five Star movement follows Lega Nord in immigration skepsis
– Germany: there is a battle raging in “die Linke” party, where the leader Sarah Wagenknecht no longer supports open borders
I can assure empire dave that sympathy for Anglo-Zionist oligarchs is non-existant among left and right European populists. And wait until the protesters begin to realize that stagnation of their incomes is purely the result of the import of millions of these goddamn darkies, than it is only a matter of time until multicult is dead as a brick and the real confrontation will begin:
https://www.amazon.fr/Avant-guerre-Chronique-dun-cataclysme-annoncé/dp/291120252X/ref=sr_1_4
Let the cataclysm begin.
This is not JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:20 pm
This is JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:02 pm
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:41 am
This is the real Davy
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:36 am
I am not burned out on collapse but I am more sober about it.
This is not JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:21 pm
This is JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:03 pm
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 11:46 am
“Watch Paris Burn Live As Yellow Jacket Riots Continue Into Night”
https://tinyurl.com/y7ud6hlt
This is not JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:22 pm
This is JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:04 pm
Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:00 pm
bad news for PBBM
when chinese and rissans not steling tech from supertards they evade sanctions
chinese exec arrested in canada
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:34 pm
“Let the cataclysm begin.”
Neder you can put a smiley face on a death certificate but that does not change the document’s meaning. LOL. Neder, you are getting lost in this race thing. This is a social upheaval phenomenon. OK, it will likely calm down but your PBM fantasy will never be the same. Why are you not praising your hero Macron these days? That was a routine effort but now you don’t say much about him. Now it is Mr. Fillon until he does not work. LOL
Cloggie on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 12:54 pm
Why are you not praising your hero Macron these days?
Macron is NOT my hero. Putin is.
As you can verify here:
https://peakoil.com/publicpolicy/kunstler-the-sound-of-one-wing-flapping
Cloggie on Fri, 5th May 2017 5:01 am
Macron – Le Pen 62-38
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-idUSKBN18014H
It is over, the bankers won once again.
Had preferred Gaullist Fillon myself (pro-EU and pro-Russia) but he shot himself in the foot, very likely thanks to machinations of the System, that doesn’t like friends of Russia:
http://www.gfaye.com/affaire-fillon-le-tueur-sappelle-macron/
(Fillon case: the killer is Macron)
Fillon and Putin in a very cozy get-together in Putin’s Valdar talking club:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kfhU5vGdQs
Fillon had a massive lead in the polls and would have been guaranteed the next French president, if the western banking/media interests had not found a relative small stain on his vest (fake job for his wife).
And “poof” said Fillon’s presidency.
What I do admit is that Macron turned out not as bad as I initially feared he would be (at the time I fell for the Macron=Rothshildt puppet meme). But I would swap him for Fillon in a heartbeat and perhaps we can swap him.
This is very encouraging:
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/59317
Putin would not have invited Fillon if there is something brewing… in France.
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 1:13 pm
neder, be honest. You have been putting lipstick on Macron for months now. This is how you operate and why your fantasy is only partially reliable. Your emotions and your personal “ideal” of what should be get ahead of you.
This is JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 1:28 pm
Davy on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 1:13 pm
neder, be honest. You have been putting lipstick on Macron for months now. This is how you operate and why your fantasy is only partially reliable. Your emotions and your personal “ideal
This is JuanP on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 1:53 pm
“Let the cataclysm begin.”
Neder you can put a smiley face on a death certificate but that does not change the document’s meaning. LOL. Neder, you are getting lost in this race thing. This is a social upheaval phenomenon. OK, it will likely calm down but your PBM fantasy will never be the same. Why are you not praising your hero Macron these days? That was a routine effort but now you don’t say much about him. Now it is Mr. Fillon until he does not work. LOL
makati1 on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 5:23 pm
Obviously, collapse is having its effect on some of the commenters here. Insanity?
“Wouldn’t watching all of that make sane person burn with rage, pound with anxiety, shudder with dread, go cold with panic?”
Well, no. Not if they are rational and intelligent and have prepared for the changes. If you have lived as long as I have, you have been through all it before. Probably several times.
Collapse is no more dangerous than getting into your car and going to the mall or work. About 100 people, every day in the US, do that and never come home. Another thousand or so are seriously maimed but you all still do it and never give it a thought.
It is good to be aware of current events so you can prepare for the future, but none of us know the time and place of our death unless it is self inflicted. The author is a whiner snowflake who apparently cannot handle reality. Maybe she is showing us why Americans are overdosing on drugs and committing suicide in ever growing numbers? Unable to handle reality? Obviously. Slip slidin’…
Chrome Mags on Sat, 8th Dec 2018 6:57 pm
Part of being Human is accepting reality, albeit on a downward scale due to declining EROEI, none the less we all need to roll up our sleeves and follow that path down to the abyss with a smile on our faces, leaning into the wind. No time to be a snowflake about this because it’s going to get downright harsh, then brutal, then deadly, then super quiet. To the survivors of the bottleneck, it’s the quiet part that will be most shocking after a lifetime in a loud, tech filled world.
Эй, братья, пожалуйста, ударьте антиамериканскую собаку, которую я сделал из гранитного форума on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 2:52 am
Hey, all you tight ass, cheap SOBs. Your welfare programs don’t provide me with the elevated lifestyle I deserve. It’s my God given right.
How do you expect me to live off of just Social Security Disability (I can’t help it that I don’t play well with other people) + Medicaid (yeah, sure I don’t pay anything, but I want a private room in the hospital + Food Stamps + Church grocery programs + mommy’s house and care.
TheNationalist on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 8:10 am
Would you like a balloon with it ?, ya Russian dole bludging bastard?
Fries with that maybe?
A big coke?
Howzabout about a smackindeface BLYAT!!,
Davy on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 8:18 am
Nationalist, that is JuanP identity theft you are commenting on….if it matters
JuanP on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 9:08 am
“To live is to suffer.” Budha
Nothing new here. Pain and suffering are an intrinsic part of life and dying. I burned out as a young child. I think that is why it is so easy for me to accept reality. To live in denial requires a constant effort that I am not willing to make. Look at Davy; his whole life revolves around denying the truth of his nature.
Davy on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 9:23 am
Nationalist, I have extra-sensory powers that enable me to know that JuanP made that quote because I am the person who committed the identity theft you are commenting on……if it matters.
Davy on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 10:51 am
“To live is to suffer.” Budha Nothing new here. Pain and suffering are an intrinsic part of life and dying.”
OH, no the dirty fool want to get serious. Dirty Juan you are a nihilist and an atheist. You believe in only yourself. It does not get more compressed than that. You are a black hole going into a quasar. LOL get on your lithium,
“I burned out as a young child. I think that is why it is so easy for me to accept reality.”
You are in complete unreality in a place noted for unreality, Miami Beach, living the playboy life. That is unless you have lost everything. Maybe your stupid property brokering effort went to shit and now you are in the low rent district without your wife. BTW, she was all you had. That might explain the mental illness. Is she gone dirty juan? Your family won’t have you and shipped you off to the states because you were unruly and nasty so you are all alone now.
“To live in denial requires a constant effort that I am not willing to make.”
LMFAO is all I can say.
JuanP identity theft on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 10:52 am
Davy on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 9:23 am Nationalist, I have extra-sensory powers
JuanP identity theft on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 11:10 am
Davy on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 10:51 am
OH, no the dirty fool want to get serious. Dirty Juan you are a nihilist and an atheist. You believe in only yourself. It does not get more compressed than that. You are a black hole going into a quasar. LOL get on your lithium
I would never write something so ridiculous.
Dredd on Sun, 9th Dec 2018 11:14 am
“I’m Burned Out On Collapse And I Bet You Are Too”
I’m burned up at those who are engineering the ongoing collapse.
Keep on becoming woker and woker (In Search Of Ocean Heat – 2).
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 12:16 am
CIA … WHAT? Bet you didn’t know…
“Supposedly, the CIA grew up out of the OSS, an organization the public has been told fought the Nazi’s in France, blowing up trains, facing torture and death. Though some in the OSS actually did that, the group itself was made up of Americans close to Hitler including the Dulles brothers, Allan and John Foster, who ran the law firm that represented Nazi Germany in American courts. Allan later “founded” the CIA and his brother, John Foster Dulles, was Secretary of State under Eisenhower and one of the chief architects of the Cold War….
…the OSS managed financial relations throughout the war between Nazi Germany, Britain and the US. Allan Dulles served in Switzerland, laundering billions in profits for American companies doing business with the Nazis, through the Vatican…
Rockefeller owned Standard Oil, Lockheed, General Motors, Dupont, Alcoa Aluminum, Ford Motor Company and the Bush family owned the majority of Nazi Germany’s defense industry …
When American and British owned plants were bombed inside Germany or Czechoslovakia, the American government paid reparations to the corporations that owned the Nazi war plants….
What are we saying? It is simply this, that all information, be it from “the press,” or owned and manipulated social media, from intelligence organizations or that which is infused into our culture through fake narratives, endless propaganda as public education, as entertainment and culture, from every source, every day in the life of anyone who simply opens their eyes in the morning, is fake.”
https://journal-neo.org/2018/12/09/why-is-intelligence-the-mother-of-all-stupidity/
Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War that has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades and consulted with governments challenged by security issues. He’s a senior editor and chairman of the board of Veterans Today, especially for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.”
JR on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 6:27 pm
Anybody that quotes the crap written or promoted by Duff needs their head examined for brain worms. I’ve never forgiven Duff for his extensive lies and dishonesty and fear-mongering bullshit. Never.
I still write about collapse. Every day. For free. No Facebook, no Twitter, no Medium or Patreon, nobody telling me what I can and cannot say or publish. And a few of you keep reading it. Because you want to.
Whining about being “burned out” is kinda stupid. Grow the fuck up. If you’ve got a problem with it – then stop reading it. Go do something else, instead of regurgitating yet another article about “why you’re burned out”. Fuck that shit. Get a life and take some responsibility for yourself.
Suggest this site turn off all commentary until some of you fuckwits grow the fuck up.
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 7:30 pm
JR, and you are one of them. What happened to “free speech”? Not part of your fantasy world? What are YOUR credentials? List them with proof or shut the fuck up.
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 7:33 pm
BTW JR, I guess you are too stupid to realize that this site only exists because of the commentary. $$$ No one does ANYTHING for free. You just post bullshit to make yourself feel good. It has no other value. You want everyone to agree with your vision. Not going to happen snowflake. Too many intelligent, rational people here that offset the delusionists and immature.
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 7:37 pm
Perhaps, JR, you just don’t want to see that the America you thought existed is not the real one. That it is a corrupt, warmongering, baby killing country that plunders the rest of the world to make your “American Dream” possible. Well, your “American Dream” is becoming the “American Nightmare” so adjust. Payback is a bitch and the world is coming to collect.
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 7:46 pm
More:
“The history of Zionist collusion with Nazis”
https://israelpalestinenews.org/the-history-of-zionist-collusion-with-nazis/
“How the Allied multinationals supplied Nazi Germany throughout World War II’
http://libcom.org/library/allied-multinationals-supply-nazi-germany-world-war-2
“Ford and GM Scrutinized for Alleged Nazi Collaboration”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm
And on and on… The elite know no patriotism to any one country, only to money.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 8:07 pm
Mak
‘Nightmare’ conditions at Chinese factories where Hasbro and Disney toys are made
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/nightmare-conditions-at-chinese-factories-where-hasbro-and-disney-toys-are-made/ar-BBQCVmg?ocid=U348DHP&li=BBnbcA1
And thats the country you support over the US?
They are pure evil!
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 8:26 pm
MOB and you have been to China? I have. You believe all of that US brainwashing propaganda like some religious disciple. No thought of your own. MSN is NOT a factual, reliable source, it is owned by Microsoft and is another propaganda outlet for your masters. Haven’t you noticed that China is now on the US shit ;list so nothing positive will ever be in US news? Not too long ago, when they were just a cheap factory country, China was one of the good guys. Ditto for Russia. But Americans memories are about 20 seconds long so they don’t notice the brainwashing.
BTW, have you looked at your own neighborhood lately? How many starving kids there? How many homeless families? How many druggies and pushers? How is the unemployment there? Factories still closing? Drug gangs proliferating? M<alls emptying?
Why don't you use your search engine and see the real America. Naw! Finger pointing is the American way. Don't ever look into a mirror. It will scare you to death.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 9:08 pm
Mak
China has the worlds largest debt and they are the worlds largest oil importer..When the global oil shortage hits they will collapse fast and hard..
You better find a new horse to plug, this one died at the gate..
LMFAO!
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 9:38 pm
MOB, ignorance is bliss, isn’t it? LOL
The US has the world’s largest debt by far and China may be importing oil, but is it being used or stored? You have no idea. You only know what you are told by your masters. Whereas, the US is burning every drop of oil and even selling their reserves to keep the bills paid.
“Top 10 Countries with Largest National Debt-to-GDP in 2018” (China is not even on this list.)
https://learn.stashinvest.com/10-countries-with-largest-national-debt-to-gdp
“List of countries by external debt” China is number 12. The US is number 1.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
Total US debt: $71 Trillion.
Total US unfunded liabilities: $115 Trillion
You better find a new brain, the one you are using appears to be dead. LMAO!
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 9:41 pm
Russia Just Sent Two Nuclear-Capable Bombers to Venezuela
http://time.com/5475681/russia-nuclear-bombers-venezuela/?xid=time_socialflow_facebook&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=time&utm_medium=social
Meddling in our elections..Murdering two people with poision in the UK..And inciting riots in France..Now they are bringing nukes to the socialist close to home.
Hit em hard! Nuclear first strike! I want to see naked Russian children running in the streets with their skin melting off!
Its coming!
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 9:44 pm
Mak
That is because China doesn’t put all of their debt on the books..You are so ignorant its astonishing..
Debt, Not Trade War, Is China’s Biggest Problem
Officially China’s debt is a small number: 47.60%. Unofficially, it’s hard to figure it out. For a good reason: the government is both the lender and the borrower. One branch of the government lends money to another branch of government. Government-owned banks, for instance, lend money to State Owned Enterprises (SOEs) and Town Village Enterprises (TVEs). But there are some unofficial estimates. Like one from the Institute of International Finance (IIF) last week, which place China’s debt to GDP at 300%!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmourdoukoutas/2018/11/24/debt-not-trade-war-is-chinas-biggest-problem/#2809abd54c4d
The Chinese “economic miracle” is built on a mountain of debt. As Chinese GDP grew over 12-fold in 20 years to $12.24 trillion at the end of 2017, credit in the Chinese financial system grew over 40-fold, taking the debt-to-GDP ratio from 100% to 400%, if one counts the shadow banking system. Shadow banking credit aggregates are omitted from official statistics, but they add at a minimum 100% to the total debt to GDP ratio for China (see this Brookings Institution paper).
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-coming-recession-has-pushed-oil-below-60-2018-11-13?link=sfmw_fb
China central bank chief warns of ‘Minsky moment’
https://www.ft.com/content/4bcb14c8-b4d2-11e7-a398-73d59db9e399
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 9:50 pm
“China Crude Oil Storage Splurge is OPEC’s Best Friend” (Oct 2017)
http://www.crudeoildaily.com/2017/10/china-crude-oil-storage-splurge-is.html
“China may be stockpiling more oil than anyone realized” (Sept 2016)
“Why China’s Strateg Petroleum Reserve Is All That Matters For OPEC” (Apr 2017)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-23/where-all-oil-storage-located-and-why-china-all-matters-opec
China is prepping for the Future, The US is selling its preps to pay bills. Intelligent, yes? LMAO
Anonymouse on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 10:00 pm
You would think davyturd is sitting over there in China watching and ‘moderating’ everything they do over there from the tone of his willfully ignorant comments. He cant get much traction anymore as Delusional Davy, cant for the life of me figure out why he hasn’t just retired I AM THE DAVYTURD, and start up a an entirely new sock puppet.
Shrug.
Maybe ‘sum’one from, I donno, ‘Iran’ would make a nice a sock for him to play with instead of this spammy idiot bi-polar alt he is using now.
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 10:04 pm
MOB, the US doesn’t put all of its debts on the books either. At least a trillion is buried in “secret” accounts. The US has to lie to get its posted GDP. So who is the most indebted? The US by far as stupid Americans are about to find out.
Look at your comment ref: “…unofficial estimates…” OR, in plain English, “unofficial guesses”.
And “he said”, “she said”, is not proof of anything. Certainly nothing quoted in the FT is proof of anything. It is owned by a Japanese company and Japan in an American ass kisser. Propaganda.
You, and some other here, keep trying to compare apples and carrots as if they are the same. China is a totally different financial system as your own ref tells you. “…it’s hard to figure it out. For a good reason: the government is both the lender and the borrower.” BINGO! In most countries that is not so. It’s like putting a dollar from one pocket to another in your pants.
China can easily survive what is coming. They prepare well in advance, unlike the US.
Survivalist on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 11:17 pm
I’m not burnt out on collapse.
I’m just getting warmed up.
I’m actually very optimistic for myself,
but ya’ll are fucked.
makati1 on Mon, 10th Dec 2018 11:27 pm
Survivalist, bad assumption/assertion. Many here are prepared. Some are probably better prepared than yourself. Arrogance will only get you killed quicker after the SHTF.
Cloggie on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 1:19 am
“MOB and you have been to China? I have. You believe all of that US brainwashing propaganda like some religious disciple. No thought of your own. ”
http://www.unz.com/freed/comparing-china-and-america/
http://www.unz.com/freed/cheng-two-more-notes-on-two-weeks-in-china/
Davy on Tue, 11th Dec 2018 1:56 am
Anonymouse:
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