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Enlightenment Now by Steven Pinker — don’t believe the false doom-mongers
Towards the end of this passionate book in praise of Enlightenment values the author sounds a defiant but plaintive note. “Persuasion by facts and logic, the most direct strategy,” Steven Pinker writes, “is not always futile.” You can almost hear the “despites” in his mind. Despite the widespread belief among fashionable intellectuals that emotions and tribal loyalties are more important and somehow more authentic than fact-based evidence. Despite the steady stream of news reports (this week including another mass school shooting) suggesting that chaos is eroding the edifice of order.
It’s just as well that Pinker — among many other things a professor of psychology at Harvard — concludes that there is some point to logical persuasion, because he has spent several hundred pages using logical persuasion. He equips the reader with the information necessary to join in a defence of “the ideals of science, reason and humanism”, at a time when they seem to be under assault.
If Pinker is an optimist concerning human capacity for reason, it’s not because he is Professor Pollyanna. He begins the book by outlining the second law of thermodynamics — which is that “the laws of probability nudge the system towards disorder or uselessness”. It is usual, in other words, that things fall apart and the centre cannot hold, from space matter to humans beings. To make them cohere, to make them make something and keep making something, takes effort. It so happens that humanity has been adapted to make that effort. It could always choose, however, out of ennui, despair or error, to stop.
One source of all three malign motivations is the taste we have for pessimism. Pinker notes that recently Pulitzer non-fiction prizes were given to “four books on genocide, three on terrorism, two on cancer and one on extinction” and none for any one of the myriad efforts to tell stories of human achievement. This suits what he calls “progressophobes” like our trendy declinist John Gray, or the American intellectual Naomi Klein, whose visceral dislike of the idea of progress is in the essentially reactionary tradition of Romanticism, ie human beings were much more properly themselves in the days before vaccination and air travel.
A good half of the book — a refutation of such progressophoboia — is a factual examination of what humanity has achieved in the past couple of centuries. The chapter on the extraordinary (and to many counterintuitive) reduction in deaths from wars or violence will be familiar to those who have read Pinker’s 2011 book, The Better Angels of Our Nature. Much of the rest is new and is designed to establish that, for all the wailing, human existence has been measurably transformed for the better by, in Pinker’s words, “the virtuous cycle of education, knowledge and wealth”.
Pinker’s canvas is a panoramic one and this review by comparison is hardly a frame in a cartoon strip, but I just want to give a flavour of the granular fun to be had here. Because in building his case he has amassed a series of stats, examples and arguments that are as entertaining as they are important.
So here goes. A taste. On health, Pinker’s “favourite example in the history of the English language” is the Wikipedia entry on smallpox, which begins, “Smallpox was an infectious disease caused by one of two virus variants . . . ” There is no country in the world where infant or child mortality today is not lower than it was in 1950. The US rate of dementia is falling not rising and the average age at diagnosis rose from 80.7 to 82.4 between 2000 and 2012. The recent spike in death from opioids is not a horrible new phenomenon but, given that the main age of those overdosing is 50, it is “largely an epidemic of the druggy baby boomer cohort reaching middle age”.
Or on wealth. Inequality is not the great cause of social problems that authors such as Thomas Piketty suggest. From the facts “it’s not obvious that people are whipped into competitive anxiety by the existence of JK Rowling and Sergey Brin, as opposed to their own, local rivals for professional, romantic and social success”. Also as societies become richer they tend to get more munificent in supporting the less fortunate.
On the planet, environmentalists are right to be worried about global warming, but wrong about nuclear power, genetic modification and other advances which some reject out of an almost punitive desire for mankind to suffer. Also beware of false doomsters. Remember peak oil? Well actually in many cases we are using things much less than we used to, and by 2070 even the world’s population will be falling. In fact “we may have reached peak children, peak farmland, peak timber, peak paper and peak car. Indeed we may be reaching peak stuff.”
I very much liked the chapter on safety written because, in Pinker’s words, “humanity’s conquest of everyday danger is a peculiarly unappreciated form of progress”. Between 1921 and 2009 in the US there was an almost 24-fold fall in the road traffic death rate. And on homicide and crime, where Pinker reminds us that far from being all round us, murders tend to be concentrated in certain countries, in certain towns in those countries, in certain neighbourhoods in those towns, and that the policies to reduce such horrors are well-understood. On terrorism Pinker re-establishes the point that the Seventies and Eighties, for those of us in the West, was peak terror.
Pinker’s point is that, when we look at the facts, we know what works. Mixed capitalist economies operating in the framework of law and basing their policies on evidence, do much better for us than any other systems. It is better to trade than not, to mingle than not, to educate than not, to argue freely than not. The facts tell us so.
But sometimes we forget or quarrel ourselves into forgetting and say that the evidence doesn’t matter or that we prefer other more congenial evidence. And that, as Pinker makes clear in the final third of the book, is the danger he sees today. The victory of Trump and the (qualified) rise of populism, as well as the new fashion for “patronal authoritarianism” (Putin and Erdogan) and the “squirrely” lack of a defence of the Enlightenment by intellectuals, is presenting a challenge to the values that have kept entropy at bay and allowed humanity to progress.
Because progress is not regarded as heroic, but “is a kind that is easy to miss while we are living through it”, it is badly undersold. Pinker uses this book to resell it. He does a pretty good job. We want to hope his efforts are not futile.
Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism and Progress by Steven Pinker, Allen Lane, 556pp; £25
Reasons to be cheerful . . .
● In 1870 the average western European worked 66 hours a week; they now work 38 hours.
● Life expectancy in Kenya increased by ten years between 2003 and 2013, meaning the average Kenyan lived for a decade without losing a year of their remaining lifetime.
● Newspapers could truthfully have printed the headline “number of people in extreme poverty fell by 137,000 since yesterday” every day for the last 25 years.
● In 1919 an average American had to work 1,800 hours to pay for a refrigerator; in 2014 they had to work fewer than 24 hours (and their new fridge was frost-free and had an icemaker).
● Between 1820 and 1900 global income tripled. It has tripled three more times since.
178 Comments on "Enlightenment Now by Steven Pinker — don’t believe the false doom-mongers"
twocats on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 7:21 am
this idea of progress is not a radical idea but has been deeply embedded in western civilization spirit since the enlightenment. listen to any political leader talking about civil rights or technology for the past 70 years. but for every small pox pinker could site I could site a genocide or a slavery or a nuking. the fact that he promotes genetic modification and nuclear power as if there is some magical “out the other side” where all scientific pursuits (no matter how ill-formed) suddenly become saved is the exact problem with the theory he is putting forward. But we’ve always been in a race against time, death, resource depletion, and population expansion, so there probably didn’t seem like any choice but to continually forge ahead – to this – alienated wasteland of post-industrial civilization.
the comments on wealth and opioid crises are just bizarre by the way and completely ignore the failing ability of society to distribute resources equitably as the last mad scramble of the oligarchs consumes the planet.
onlooker on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 7:35 am
TOO bad the weight of evidence gives good reasons to be pessimistic
Darrell Cloud on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 7:37 am
I am sure that members of the intellectual elite walked the Apian Way and imagined that the opulence and progress of Rome would go on forever. They never imagined there would come a moment in time when people forgot how to make concrete and that Rome itself, the seat of empire would depopulate. They never imagined 536 and the resulting dark ages.
We have built the most complex and fragile civilization in the history of man. Fossil fuels hold this civilization together. Those fuels feed our transport and our grid. When the grid goes down, civilization ends. We have a one chance in eight of grid collapse resulting from a Carrington Event in any given year.
Jef on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 9:56 am
And all for what?
So we can most efficiently kill all life on Earth.
Get as many people participating in the collective suicide of humanity?
Fill the entire biosphere with our waste stream.
Yea Yea Hurrah for the progression of mankind, sorry, personkind.
Cloggie on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 10:26 am
Here is another one of those East Coast intellectuals, who professes that the ideals of the strictly European rationalist Enlightenment can be super-imposed on entire humanity and that they can replace tribal and religious loyalties and as such prepare them for One World, run of course by the tribe of mr Pinker. Not that he wants to stress his own very tribal loyalties too much in the eyes of the rest of the world. One standard for us and one for the gentiles.
Pinker makes his PC Harvard university claims in 2018, after terrible wars in Chechnya, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine and a host of other countries and the resurgence of Islam in Turkey and (US-sponsored) Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, the Taliban in Afghanistan and fundamentalism in Iran and in response to multiculturalism, the rise of populism in Europe and America.
#BuildThatWall
The future is Samuel Huntington and not of this blind old-school 20th century commie ideologue Steven Pinker and his messianic dream of the entire world in his tribal hands.
Sissyfuss on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 11:02 am
Look at we false doom-mongers coming to the defense of the dread we see in our own lives. Pinkey seems to be a 3/4 full glass of water than a half glass full. Stinky will be well compensated for his agenda seeking BAU love fest as the sheeple continue to deny their and the biospheres continued degradation.
Chris Hill on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 12:52 pm
Flying and falling can seem a lot alike, for a while. The book sounds like a great history book, but unless we come up with some magical new technologies to fix the problems with the old ones, progress will be a thing of the past.
makati1 on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 5:53 pm
Another ad to sell a book. This one is pure fantasy. Proof that US colleges are nothing more than indoctrination centers. These ivory tower types do not live in the real world. But they have too much influence on the young. It will be nice when they are no longer able to teach bullshit after the crash. They will be too busy trying to survive. LMAO
Davy on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 5:57 pm
“Proof that US colleges are nothing more than indoctrination centers.”
billy 3rd world, you might tell the “guys” that you are a college drop out. You could not take the rigours of higher education.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 7:49 pm
Humans can not live without illusions. For the men and woman of today, an irrational faith in progress may be the only antidote to nihilism. Without the hope that the future will be better than the past they could not go on.
-John N Gray
MASTERMIND on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 7:54 pm
Just wait till Pinker is eating boiled rat for dinner! And goons are raping his daughters in his living room! They will be saying “Ejaculate Now”
GregT on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 8:12 pm
What’s with you guys’ fixation on boiling everything that you eat?
Rat is much better cooked over an open fire, and slowly smoked, just like any other meat.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 8:20 pm
It always kills me when people say “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.” but in the same breath, they’ll say “Guns save lives.”
You can’t have it both ways. Either the inanimate object can do something or it can’t….
MASTERMIND on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 8:32 pm
GregT
Its just a metaphor..Too be honest when the trucks stop running and the food runs out..I doubt pinker will be lucky enough to find a rat around to eat..Most likely it will be people eating other people.
GregT on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 8:36 pm
Guns don’t kill people MM. People kill people, and in the right hands, guns can and do save lives.
MASTERMIND on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 8:54 pm
Greg
I know Greg we should stop giving guns to our military to use since they dont kill people..You are so dumb its astonishing. Typical fundamentalist deluded prepper..
MASTERMIND on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 9:02 pm
Alcohol doesn’t kill people either.
Cars don’t kill people.
It sounds stupid no matter what you apply it to.
GregT on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 9:02 pm
“I know Greg we should stop giving guns to our military to use since they dont kill people..You are so dumb its astonishing.”
‘Your’ military does kill people MM. Millions of innocents over the last several decades, as a matter of fact.
That should be;
You are so dumb it’s astonishing, and only one period is required at the end of a sentence.
Being the brilliant intellect that you are, one would expect you to understand basic grade school spelling and grammar. Apparently not……….
peakyeast on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 9:38 pm
Right after the Titanic hit the iceberg I wonder how many people that were crying gloom and doom – and how many that tried to tell them to calm down and that the ship was impossible to sink.
Sit down – relax. Just enjoy the spectacle – look at those stupid people going to the lifeboats… what fools..
GregT on Sat, 17th Feb 2018 9:46 pm
“Alcohol doesn’t kill people either. Cars don’t kill people.”
Alcohol can kill people MM, if they drink enough of it, and cars kill people every single day, when people lose control of them. Of course there are instances, where people purposely kill other people with cars, and people sometimes lose control of guns as well.
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 12:30 am
“Sit down – relax. Just enjoy the spectacle – look at those stupid people going to the lifeboats… what fools..”
706 survived the sinking of the Titanic. They are called life-boats for a reason. Nothing foolish about life boats… unless you have a death wish.
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 12:52 am
Pinker is from Harvard and fabulating about the end of ethnic strife, where in the same buildings white genocide is being announced:
https://youtu.be/RC-Cqkq6zWc
https://youtu.be/2CVA6Nw6VxM
There is a time for peace and there is a time for war. I’ll leave it to you as an exercise to figure out what time it is now. There is no escape from war that will terminate the biggest disaster in the history of the white race: ZOG-USA.
South-China Sea, Syria, Gulf or NoKo as the most likely initiation points of WW3. But life is full of surpises, like Sarajevo, Tonkin or Falklands, nobody sees coming.
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 1:22 am
Another day, another anti-Merkel and anti-multicult march. This time in Berlin, where women are protesting against permanent assault and harrassment from young male fake “refugees”.
https://youtu.be/f8Xc7Idjb74
Young men per definition can’t be refugees, but throughout history have caused endless columns of refugees.
But these young men will soon be real refugees themselves when the US imposed 1968 multicult order will melt away under the pressure of exploding popular anger and we will do what we have done three times before in history: throw Islam out of Europe.
GregT on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 2:11 am
‘We will do what we have done three times before in history: throw Islam out of Europe.”
This time will be different Cloggie. Sorry man.
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 3:23 am
This time will be different Cloggie. Sorry man.
Like how? Stick your neck out and speculate freely.
The US empire is toast, it will implode. It has managed to set up the entire world against itself. Don’t for a minute think that Europe will return as a vassal after Trump. They already smelled their freedom:
https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/
Once liberated from Anglo-Zionism we can start all over again with anti-liberal values. The power of that (((US-word))) “racism” will evaporate like the battle cry of the USSR: “class enemy”.
America, yesterday’s snow.
The Atlantic alliance will survive, with Paris-Berlin-Moscow in the driver seat and a balkanized USA/Canada as a junior partner, the white parts that is. A bit like this:
https://www.pyeongchang2018.com/en/game-time/results/OWG2018/en/general/medal-standings.htm
What’s your story?
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 5:21 am
“South-China Sea, Syria, Gulf or NoKo as the most likely initiation points of WW3.”
“Meet the New Fulda Gap”
https://tinyurl.com/ydx2xntk
“Dubbed the “Suwalki Gap” after the Polish town of Suwalki that sits in the seam between the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad to the northwest and Moscow-friendly nation of Belarus to the southeast, the area has become the latest potential flashpoint between an increasingly aggressive Moscow and NATO. The port city of Kaliningrad has long bristled with thousands of Russian troops and advanced weapons, while Belarus recently agreed to house a large Russian air base, making the Suwalki area a small vulnerable land bridge increasingly squeezed by Russian hardware.”
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 5:25 am
“But these young men will soon be real refugees themselves when the US imposed 1968 multicult order”
Victimization rubbish, the Germans recently are a very international oriented people. Internationalization was not imposed on them and these modern Germans help create globalization.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 5:30 am
“The Atlantic alliance will survive, with Paris-Berlin-Moscow in the driver seat and a balkanized USA/Canada as a junior partner, the white parts that is. A bit like this”
Total fantasy of a monomaniac. None of these partners can get along and this is proven throughout history. The ret of Europe is not going to be their rump either. The US will not implode and allow these powers to exist as-is. That will end the world as we know it.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 5:38 am
“We will do what we have done three times before in history: throw Islam out of Europe.”
more final solution darkness demonstrated in the heart and soul of a typical Euroextremist. These evil tendencies never go away.
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 5:39 am
“Meet the New Fulda Gap”
Yeah, yeah, Americans or Washington rather would love to instigate war in Europe again and again use Poland as a useful idiot, proving that the only serious enemy Europe has, and enemy that needs to be destroyed btw, is Washington and their enablers like Shabby Davy.
But the geopolitical outlook is now completely different. America has only enemies, including half of its own (white) population:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGSAhNZnisk
Davy is somebody with a serious death wish, which becomes immediately obvious if you read his doomer posts, where he announces his own future, or lack there-off.
Next time the real fun will happen on North-American territory, where European, Russian and Chinese troops will be all over the place, just like kosher water carriering Yanks and Soviets were all over Europe in 1945.
Expect the Star-sprangled banner being replaced by the Confederate Flag, at least in Heartland USA.
https://deepresource.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/confederateflag.jpg
As I said before, I wouldn’t want to sell a life-insurance to Davy.
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 5:46 am
more final solution darkness demonstrated in the heart and soul of a typical Euroextremist. These evil tendencies never go away.
Nothing wrong with putting a hostile Muslim and closet IS-adept on the train to the South-East, while America is descending in inter-ethnic violence on an unprecedented scale.
Davy, the vicious punk, who never wants to discuss the details of WW2 (because he knows he would lose the discussion), but like a coward sniper keeps shooting his “Natzi” and “Final Solution” bullet smears…
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/an-embarrassing-discovery/
Not that he will have any effect with it. Davy the wannabee imperialist and 1-percenter and shabby Soviet 2.0 will meet his end soon enough, probably at the hands of a Heartland deplorable, he is surrounded with in spades.
The sun is setting over the US empire, with Davy kicking and screaming.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 5:53 am
A Nazi history revisionist desperate word salad of a fantasy future of Empire lust. Europe is coming apart and the dumbass doesn’t even see it.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:04 am
Welcome to a 1 degree warmer world
“Sudden Stratospheric Warming Event” Fractures The Polar Vortex In Two”
https://tinyurl.com/yafnfekm
“Sudden stratospheric warming events occur when large atmospheric waves send energy upward, into the stratosphere, setting in motion a complex process that results in the temporary breakdown of the polar vortex. This February’s stratospheric warming event was particularly extreme, possibly setting records for how sharply temperatures spiked in the upper atmosphere. The polar vortex split isn’t the only factor favoring a cold snap in Europe, warmup in the Eastern U.S., and cool down in the West. There’s also a cycle of atmospheric pressure over the North Atlantic Ocean, known as the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), that can increase the odds of colder and snowier weather in some of these areas. Computer models are projecting the NAO will become strongly negative during the next few weeks in response to the polar vortex split and stratospheric warming event, and this also favors cold and snow in Western Europe. (It also ups the odds of similar weather in the eastern U.S., but that may not happen right away.) “A significant PV [polar vortex] disruption is often followed by widespread cold temperatures across northern Eurasia and the Eastern US. However the cold is more certain across northern Eurasia following these type of PV disruptions,” meteorologist Judah Cohen, who specializes in seasonal weather forecasting and tracking the polar vortex for AER, a Verisk Analytics company, wrote on his blog. The negative mode of the NAO typically features an area of strong high pressure over Greenland, which blocks the progression of weather systems moving in from the southwest, and causes the jet stream to plunge southward over Europe, allowing cold air to flow in from the Arctic and Scandinavia. Sudden stratospheric warming events tend to cause the NAO to switch into negative mode shortly after they occur. The rest of February should feature a colder than average Western U.S., coupled with a milder than average East Coast. However, the negative NAO phase could bring a return of winter weather to the East in early March, depending where exactly that Greenland block sets up. There’s often a delay between when the polar vortex is disrupted, and when the cold air arrives in parts of the U.S., if at all. Snow lovers will be watching upcoming forecasts anxiously because the deeper into March we go, the less likely widespread snows along the East Coast become.”
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:04 am
Victimization rubbish, the Germans recently are a very international oriented people. Internationalization was not imposed on them
The joke of the day and Davy is the main supplier of them, every day again.
A Nazi history revisionist desperate word salad of a fantasy future of Empire lust.
So if I am so desperate why don’t you even repeat the official lie (“Germany wanted to conquer the world”). Because you are the desperate one with your pack of lies. The only ones who want to conquer to the world until today is the George Soros/neocon bunch, with stoopid dave as their water carrier, willing to cover up all the lies, keen as he is to be seen as a 1-percenter (goat-shit schlepping dave isn’t, not in a long shot).
Europe is coming apart and the dumbass doesn’t even see it.
https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/
https://www.euractiv.com/section/med-south/news/italian-leader-berlusconi-wants-russia-in-the-eu/
Europe-hating British are leaving, good-riddance to them with their Muslim-majority capital. Non-PC Russia and Ukraine are far more interesting than self-defeating Anglos and they both want to be part of Europe and the rising European populist rise is willing to let them in.
You have extremely bad geopolitical cards, pall.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 6:49 am
I think my cards are little different from the rest of us. They are “our” cards. This is where you are lost old Eurotard Nazi. The modern global world is brittle to change. It is in a decline process and we are all stuck with this process and ourselves. The worst thing that can happen is to follow extremist on all sides. You are an extremist with empire lust. It is clear in everything you write. DISGUSTING.
You are an incompetent with our current global economic reality. What does not fit your fantasy is disregarded. Only numbers that support your fantasy are included in your fictional narrative. All this is combined in monomaniac whine of ww11 victimization. You are stuck in the 20th century projections into a new 21st century reality these 20th century ideas don’t fit. Your fantasy is an inconsistent mixture of a fantasy energy revolution that will meet a fantasy political/military revolution of a new fantasy “Reich”. You disguise it as a Nazi/Gaullist/Soviet PBM but it is all about a new Nazi Reich. This is one fantasy after another with no basis in reality. All this amounts to is fanatical hope.
The energy revolution is only half baked and defies physics with scale and the psychology of human nature. The math is awful on all fronts. The economics dreadful because it is talking about a golden decade but the reality is based in a late term civilization. The political part is not even mixed up to bake and is clearly a recipe that will not work. All the benefits of a united Europe does not fit Euro nationalism of dozens of different nationalities forged in centuries of competition and strife. The military reality is a joke. Europe can’t fight its way out of a wet paper bag. A common army of the size you envision is pure fantasy.
Russia is hugely more potent a force. Why would Russia want to be a partner in an unstable Eurotardland? They got a huge unified competent army on your borders and they have an energy noose around your Eurotard neck. The US protects the lazy Euro and their wonderful life with most normal Euros content to live in a wonderful Euro comfort. The nedernazi is a mix of history revisions with science fiction wrapped up in Empire lust of an old man who rarely leaves his easy chair in his little quaint dutchy.
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 7:09 am
The worst thing that can happen is to follow extremist on all sides. You are an extremist with empire lust. It is clear in everything you write. DISGUSTING.
Liar. The only ones with empire lust are the thugs from Washington and enablers like you, little fraud.
As I have pointed out to you many times, Putin is proposing a CONFEDERATION, not a US-style empire, scrambled together by lies, deceit and rape and nuking and bombing of civilians. THAT’s an empire.
Russia is hugely more potent a force. Why would Russia want to be a partner in an unstable Eurotardland?
Because of China, you fool. China is going to eclipse everybody else.
But how many times do I have to post this link to finally let it sink in into your minute brain what the intentions are of Vladimir Putin?
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/12/03/paris-berlin-moscow/
But this should give you shivers:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/5445161/Russia-accuses-Poland-of-starting-Second-World-War.html
Russia lifting the veil a little from the pack of lies that is Nuremberg, when your owners invented the holohoax. I’m telling you: Putin-Russia will be willing to come clean with history, in return for admission to Europe. But Merkel temporarily ruined this possibility. But she is on the way out. She is the last real asset the Washington deep state still has, the very same Washington Trump is now president in.
The American Empire will suffer exactly the same fate as its twin brother the USSR and it will probably coincide with the end of Trump’s presidency. We are all marching towards a second 1989, that will this time apply to another kosher-run shitpile, namely the US-lead West. Somewhere between next month and 2025, if Trump holds out that long.
Why would Russia want to be a partner in an unstable Eurotardland?
For the same reason the US alt-right wants to be part of European civilization, because there is nothing more desirable to be part off, as every third worlder knows. And even you know that in your lilly-white enclave somewhere in the Ozarks.
Here Putin again stating his 100%-European ambitions:
https://www.rt.com/politics/official-word/putin-russia-changing-world-263/
“Russia is an inalienable and organic part of Greater Europe and European civilization. Our citizens think of themselves as Europeans. We are by no means indifferent to developments in united Europe.”
There you have it, straight from the horse’s mouth.
But an imbecile like you is too stupid to understand these things and despite you having voted for Trump, you decide in the last moment to jump on the empire wagon, sealing your own fate, by misreading the signs of the time. You might as well have boarded on the Titanic.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 7:31 am
“Liar”
Touché, got under the Nazi’s skin there. Lol.
“empire lust are the thugs from Washington”
We agree there especially with the security services that have taken over covertly. I am here to discuss this hijacking when I can get words in. Too bad I have to spend so much time fighting dumbass extremist like the nedernazi, the Canadian weasel, and 3rd world billy.
“As I have pointed out to you many times, Putin is proposing a CONFEDERATION”
LOL, and you believe him because that is what you want to here. All you extremist are the same, gullible and living in a deadly serious passion of hate and resentment that results in altered realities of fantasy hope.
“Because of China, you fool. China is going to eclipse everybody else.”
China will self-destruct along with the rest of us and when it does it parts will take parts of Russia with them. China is in the most precarious position with an Ponzi economy combined with severe overpopulation and ecological disastrous industrialization.
“American Empire will suffer exactly the same fate as its twin brother the USSR”
History rhymes it does not repeat. The US will end as we know it along with the rest of the global world. Smaller states are the future of a world that has bifurcated into a lower economic and population reality. This of course after the “real” “Break” of the end of globalism. Not the fantasy Nazi “Break” nedernazi proselytizes.
“For the same reason the US alt-right wants to be part of European civilization, because there is nothing more desirable to be part off”
Well one thing is for sure most people would love to be lazy and rich and have others do the heavy lifting of defense. Sounds like a paradise. You lazy Eurotards have a big wake up call. You will increasingly be more 3rd world just like the US that has vast areas of 3rd world because of inequality. Your lazy Eurotard paradise is heading straight for a brick wall of planetary limits and no amount of technology will save you.
Sissyfuss on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 8:53 am
Guns don’t kill people, bullets kill people.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 9:09 am
people kill people
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 12:01 pm
You lazy Eurotards
Eurotards beat Anglotards:
https://www.pyeongchang2018.com/en/game-time/results/OWG2018/en/general/medal-standings.htm
Just out of interest… if Eurotards are “lazy”, how would you describe Anglotards?
“Dead on arrival?”
Continental Europe…..45
Anglosphere…………11
Korea……………….3
Japan……………….2
Russia………………0
China……………….0
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 12:22 pm
Finally a collapse to believe in.lol
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 12:36 pm
Clogg
You are a deplorable person..Denying the holocaust, denying peak oil, denying overpopulation..denying the failures of solar and wind,,,where does the buck stop?
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 1:00 pm
You are a deplorable person.
Since 2016 I no longer object to that qualification.
Denying the holocaust
Mwoah, I’m willing to “believe” in something if I’m demonstrated that it happened. That would include the holocaust. So far I have seen zero proof. You know what, I’ll make it easy on you. If you can provide me a name and proof (peer-reviewed of course) of a single person who died in a gaschamber I’m willing to change my mind. How about that? We have seen several times in recent history that Americans from the Beltway have little trouble lying through their teeth, so we don’t want to take any chances here, now do we.
#WMD
One name and proof. A photo of a steaming pile of corpses in a gaschamber would do as well. Oh, I have looked for that evidence but could not find any. So far only two serious confrontations between revisionists and holocaustians have taken place: Zuendel-trial in Toronto and Irving-trial in London. In both cases zero proof was presented. But hey, Putin knows and will present the evidence at a (for him) suitable moment. He has the proof for or against, probably against.
denying peak oil
I don’t deny peak conventional oil, it is just irrelevant. I’m with Shell: peak oil demand in 15 years and fire sale in between, resulting in probably permanent low oil prices to avoid becoming stuck with the rest (“stranded assets”).
denying overpopulation
I have never denied that.
denying the failures of solar and wind
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-denmark-renewables-windpower/denmark-sets-record-with-43-percent-of-power-from-wind-in-2017-idUKKBN1F01VD
where does the buck stop?
Here to cheer you up, Russian entry Eurovision song festival:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBVY7Glcd84
Now what do you notice if you watch the video? This video is impossible in America, not “inclusive” enough. That’s why I LOVE Russia. Together with Russia we can defeat ZOG, you and Davy love so much.
Anonymouse1 on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 1:26 pm
amerikans kill people, dumbass.
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 2:20 pm
Someone should turn your name into the authorities. It is Canadians like you that represent a potential terrorist threat. Not that you would do anything becuase you are a little coward with a big mouth. What you would do is facilitate terror on Americans. You would hide them in mom’s basement and tell mom they are Xbox buddies. Maybe the authorities are already watching you.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 2:52 pm
Clogg
You think one tiny country like Denmark using not even half of their electricity by wind proves its a worldwide success? LOL And I could cite a million sources for the Holocaust but you will just come back with some fake news of some fringe blog and say its bullshit. Its laughable that you think its some grand conspricty that has fooled all the worlds leading historical experts! You live in a paranoid schizo fantasy land.
Cloggie on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 3:04 pm
“You think one tiny country like Denmark using not even half of their electricity by wind proves its a worldwide success?”
Denmark is one example, Germany (36%) another. If it works their, it will work anywhere. The whole world, minus an unnamed country, has already embraced the idea we shoulf abandon fossil fiel. So it will happen. Some countries are more backward than others.
“And I could cite a million sources for the Holocaust”
Good, provide me with the best proof you have.
(of course millimind won’t)
“Its laughable that you think its some grand conspricty that has fooled all the worlds leading historical experts! You live in a paranoid schizo fantasy land.”
1.5 billion people believe in Allah, including all sorts of “respected scholars”, so this Allah guy is pretty much peer-reviewed. For me that is no forensic proof though that the f* exists.
So, show me gaschamber proof or shut up.
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 3:36 pm
Clogg
You are extrapolating. It failed horribly in Spain..And it didn’t produce 36 percent in Germany that is total bullshit..And Germany almost had blackouts because of solar and wind. And they damaged one of their nuclear plants. And they ran off one of their BMW factories because they are paying the second highest power bills now in the entire world. And do you realize there are around 200 countries in the world. So pointing to two countries is diddly squat! And even those two small countries aren’t even 100 percent yet..LOL You fucking retard…
MASTERMIND on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 3:40 pm
Clogg
One billion people might believe in Allah but around six billion people do not..And there are no six billion Holocaust deniers…Only a small fringe of lunatics. And comparing the Holocaust to a religion is not an equal comparison since people are indoctrinated at birth to believe in that nonsense. And clogg we have a whole fucking Holocaust Museum in America chock full of evidence you idiot. Ill bet you think all the evidence in the Museum is fake and was funded by George Soros! You nut job!
Davy on Sun, 18th Feb 2018 3:51 pm
Nedernazi, your idol, Putin, does not deny the holocaust.