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Coronavirus, Economics and Culture with Dmitry Orlov

Dmitry Orlov is a Russian-American engineer and a writer on subjects related to “potential economic, ecological and political decline and collapse in the United States. (Wikipedia)

He is the author of multiple books including: Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects, The Five Stages of Collapse: Survivor’s Toolkit and more. This episode we talk about the ongoing coronavirus epidemic in relation to politics, economics and global culture. Dmitry currently blogs at ClubOrlov and his latest book The Meat Generation can be found Here


 



111 Comments on "Coronavirus, Economics and Culture with Dmitry Orlov"

  1. e on Tue, 12th May 2020 1:31 pm 

    I expected Western civilization and the Whites race.

    supertard, u saying won’t survive much longer?

    i never advocate demise of whiteys. i only advocate peace (as nixon – that is I – did). i say we love supremacist muzzies more for the sake of muzzies. that’s my message from beginning.

    why u never address my question that while a junta leader you killed all followers of (((supremetard)))?

    As for whitey supertards, yeah. i advocate chip implants to disrupt thoughts lasting longer than 1s and license to think.

    when thinking for the sake of supremacist muzzies using high British english that resulted in faulty science, it should be made difficult to think.

    the examples: whitey supertard scientific supremacist president “thunderf00t” who speaks high british english exclusively went into self quarantine which i said smellz. i said that 254 years ago, way before anyone said anything.

    whitey supertard president of “royal” institution admit model wrong, boinked married bf, lost job.

    i submit evidences for your consideration passing appropriate penalty, no less than chip implant

  2. Davy on Tue, 12th May 2020 1:35 pm 

    I like how some events happen almost at the same time. I also like how the COVID hoax propaganda is the strongest in America.

    For example, Russia, France and UK easy their lock down almost all at the same.

    Russia removing lock down
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ439O8aVk0

    France easing lock down
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zu1dtT8Hjs

    UK easing lock down
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJkY7kjvVnA

    Manipulating people with COVIX hoax fear has backfire. Americans don’t trust their government and media anymore. In effect the United States of America has collapsed. Our Government has no credibility left and it will be really difficult to get Americans to act with unity. Political structure in America is dead.

    Wow, I never expected to see the end of The American Empire.

  3. Tulsi Gabbard on Tue, 12th May 2020 2:52 pm 

    Orlov moved to Russia so his son could get a decent education
    whitey supertard president dimitry is a russian and they lie
    just because MSM media lie doesn’t mean other media is automatically trustworthly.

    i read some article about this whitey supertard president dimitry and he sounds like a russian agent, solnitzsyn wanna be, a muzzie lover.

  4. President Tulsi Gabbard Official on Tue, 12th May 2020 2:58 pm 

    I told you guyes president tulsi is fall flag

    i also told you guyes to leave, stop hanging off whitey supertard president Guy McPherson’s dk . it may get too heavy and snap and u get hurt.

    guess im tired of being rite

  5. l on Tue, 12th May 2020 3:01 pm 

    the only people who don’t lie are:

    (((supremetard)))
    the irishman whitey supertard president (the honest one) michael flynn
    whitey supertard president jordan peterson

  6. l on Tue, 12th May 2020 3:02 pm 

    general michael flynn

  7. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 12th May 2020 3:18 pm 

    “RUSSIAGATE COLLAPSES: CROWDSTRIKE ADMITS ‘NO EVIDENCE’ RUSSIA STOLE EMAILS FROM DNC SERVERS”

    https://www.infowars.com/russiagate-collapses-crowdstrike-admits-no-evidence-russia-stole-emails-from-dnc-servers/

    Poor Dems. All they have for November is a senile old man, who can’t remember his own name.

    Kunstler: the fake candidacy of Joe Biden, a man too far gone in age and mind to be president, with a long slime-trail of family money-grubbing in and around his official offices, and now an old sexual molestation charge against him. Who do the Democrats think they’re kidding with this? The coronavirus gave them an excuse to stuff Joe in a closet for two months, but can they keep hiding him there after the grand opening-up?

  8. makati1 on Tue, 12th May 2020 5:30 pm 

    JuanP or…? Not JuanP’s English unless he is drunk or in drugs? Not likely, so it must be Davy, the site retard pushing his West is Best propaganda.

  9. makati1 on Tue, 12th May 2020 5:33 pm 

    MOB, if there is not a major shooting world war sometime this decade, I will be surpris3d. The US is getting desperate and nothing is working for them, as usual.

    The only possible countries the US would attack would be Russia and/or China. Both have nukes and can deliver them to the continental US. I hope it doesn’t happen, but…?

  10. l on Tue, 12th May 2020 5:55 pm 

    makati1 on Tue, 12th May 2020 5:30 pm

    JuanP or…? Not JuanP’s English unless he i

    this is all you got on me supertard? then I’ll take it.

    you do better going after supertard abe, continue this track.

    i wish you well, old people tend to croak of the muzzielove virus

  11. Davy on Tue, 12th May 2020 6:04 pm 

    “JuanP or…? Not JuanP’s English unless he is drunk or in drugs? Not likely, so it must be Davy, the site retard pushing his West is Best propaganda”

    Old bat, I am mostly on the moderated side these days because this side is nearly worthless which includes your lame redundant comments. Most of the trash here is your best friend juanPee. so fuck off and expect to be messed with when I have the time.

  12. Davy on Tue, 12th May 2020 6:08 pm 

    “The only possible countries the US would attack would be Russia and/or China. Both have nukes and can deliver them to the continental US. I hope it doesn’t happen, but…?”

    A stupid comment from a senile old man. What is your point old bat? Geeze, this forum is worthless. I am only here to moderate you fucks so you realize how ignorant you are.

  13. makati1 on Tue, 12th May 2020 6:29 pm 

    Davy, your insanity is getting worse, if that is possible. Get help soon. Even your goats are turning away.

  14. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 12th May 2020 6:30 pm 

    “The only means to fight the plague is honesty.”

    -Albert Camus, The Plague (1947)

  15. j on Tue, 12th May 2020 6:36 pm 

    makati1 on Tue, 12th May 2020 6:29 pm
    supertard,
    even excessive use of low english didn’t land me in supertard’s stoopid list

    congratulations youre winnar!

  16. Davy on Tue, 12th May 2020 6:43 pm 

    old bat, you are nearly eighty with a drinking problem so your days are numbered. The reason you are so upset with me is because I have crushed your anti-American agenda and your AsiaUp crap. You look stupid and intellectually frail when I debate you. Before juanPee really lost it he used to come to your aid but now he is mocking you with his lunatic socks. You have one friend and that is the dork, Annon. You are so situationally unaware anymore you don’t know who is who.

  17. Davy on Tue, 12th May 2020 6:54 pm 

    mak , I am nearly eighty IQ with a drinking problem so my days are numbered. The reason I am so upset with you is because I have been crushed by your honesty and your Asian perspective. I look stupid and intellectually frail when I debate you. Before juanPee really totally destroyed me, he used to come to your aid but now instead he is mocking me w with his superior intellect and wit. You have more friends than I ever will, like the intelligent Annon. I am so situation-ally unaware anymore I don’t know my goats ass from my own.

  18. makati1 on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:01 pm 

    Juan, I am nearly eighty and low IQ with a drinking problem so my days are numbered. The reason I am so upset with you is because I hate your lies and your mental ill tashing of the only place I visit. I look stupid and intellectually frail when I debate you. Before you really totally went lunatic, you used to come to my aid but now instead you are mocking me w with your stupidity. You have no friends and live a lie. Unintelligent Annon hates you too.

  19. Anonymouse on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:02 pm 

    so true mak so true

  20. juanPee appologizing on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:04 pm 

    LMFAO:

    I acknowledge having read this warning and I will comply with the rule. I am in the process of reading the Code of Conduct. I admit that I hadn’t read it yet. I am still learning how this forum section of the site works, since I’ve been essentially a reader here for years, but only started posting more comments recently. Thanks to the mods and/or site admin for the warning; I will not post the same comment on different threads again.

  21. JuanP the pussy on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:07 pm 

    Read this one of juanPee the pussy running scared. I love when assholes get their ass smacked by the door.

    Re: Trump signaling course change on virus
    Unread postby JuanP » Fri 10 Apr 2020, 12:27:35

    Out of consideration to all the members here, I will refuse to engage “REAL Green”. He is the person who has been posting comments on the news side of this website under the name of Davy from the Ozarks in Missouri, in my own name, and many others for years. He has been stealing identities and playing childish games for years.He is also the person mostly responsible for ruining the news threads. He has systematically abused and attacked everyone who disagrees with him for more than five years. I consider him dangerous and clinically insane.

    That is all I will say about this. He will immediately become the ONLY person on my ignore list. Thank you!

    Done, I just added REAL Green to my foes list, so I will no longer see his messages. Thanks again!

  22. JuanP lies on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:08 pm 

    This is a total fantasy of juanPee. The guy has a multipl personality disorder:

    Yes, Cog, my wife and I have always been in the USA legally. As international students, employees of Uruguay’s Ministry of Foreign Relations assigned to the Uruguayan Consulate in Miami, H1B immigrant workers, and we both are now Green Card holders, who could become American citizens if we wanted to, but see no advantage for us in doing so, and, therefore have no interest in doing.

    And we do have excellent healthcare insurance, also. We have been US taxpayers for 30 years, but have never claimed or will ever claim a benefit, though.

  23. more juanP lies on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:11 pm 

    If you follow juanPee comments over time you catch all his lies. He is a skumbag of the highest degree:

    I didn’t fly for pleasure for 20 years, until I realized that the fight against climate change was lost, and then I only flew twice to build my little permaculture farm which is no ranch. I still don’t fly for pleasure (unlike you), but just because I hate flying, even in first class.

    The main reason I am still in the USA is that my wife wants to, and whenever I can I give her what she wants because she is the only person I love. We’ve been together 30 years and she is a wonderful person, the best I’ve ever met. I really, really had great luck there. I also feel a responsibility towards the 80 American families that depend on us for their income, and would have a hard time if we sold or closed our company. But, I am ready to leave the USA forever in a matter of hours if needed. I have access to a friend’s sailboat that I could sail anywhere in the world and the necessary supplies to do that.

  24. more juanPee lies on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:14 pm 

    Te guy has some fantasies I give that tom him:

    By the way, my mother’s family has been very wealthy for more than a hundred years, and has nothing to do with my paternal granfather’s military career, the dictatorship, or the American Empire. That wealth originated in Western Europe before the American Empire even existed. I have never supported the American Empire or the military dictatorship in Uruguay, NEVER. We were wealthy before during, and after it. Also, my family has business interests in Argentina, Brazil, and Spain, too, not just Uruguay. But, I renounced my interests in all that decades ago and none of that is mine, except for a trust fund that I have never touched in my life.

  25. juanP the psychopathic prick on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:15 pm 

    JuanP on Thu, 30th Jun 2016 4:56 pm
    Go Trump! Anyone but Hillary! My wife and I are considering volunteering for the Trump campaign to fight the narcissistic, psychopathic bitch.
    I think I could use my antisocial, psychopathic, sociopathic skills to convince people to vote for Trump. I can be very convincing when I want and I am excellent at manipulating people.
    JuanP on Sun, 30th Aug 2015 5:40 am
    …then you simply have a higher opinion of humans than I do. But what can I do? I am after all an admitted antisocial misanthrope. I just think most people suck!
    JuanP on Fri, 12th Aug 2016 10:58 am
    I stopped caring about humanity’s future a long time ago once I realized it was a waste of my time and energy. Now I think that it would be best for life on Earth if we ceased to exist as a species.
    JuanP on Wed, 14th Sep 2016 9:59 pm
    I struggle with the fact that I belong to the same species; I find myself emotionally and intellectually incapable of accepting the fact. That is why I consider myself a sui generis individual rather than a human animal.
    JuanP on Sun, 26th Jun 2016 12:22 am
    As far as I am concerned human beings are a bunch of arrogant and retarded ignorant fools and they deserve what’s coming. Call me selfish if you want, I don’t give a fuck!
    JuanP on Fri, 15th May 2015 11:21 am
    I did therapy for over a decade and most of it was a waste, but I had one therapist for a year who understood my issues and that helped, though I am still thoroughly screwed up.
    JuanP on Tue, 22nd Dec 2015 6:57 am
    They make me smile and happy and give me a brief respite from my cronic and acute depression.
    JuanP on Sun, 17th Aug 2014 8:19 pm
    I have suffered from cronic and acute clinical depression for most of my life, but I wouldn’t have it any other way.
    JuanP on Mon, 23rd May 2016 8:53 am
    I was just telling my wife yesterday that I would very willingly give my arms, legs, tongue, eyes, ears, nuts, and dick to experience life like normal people do for just one hour to know what it feels like. I have been a seriously depressed realist since I have a memory. My first memory of my life is of leaning against a tree alone in my kindergarten’s playground looking at all the other kids playing, thinking how stupid their behavior was, and wondering why I wasn’t like them. I basically don’t interact with normal people anymore. They have nothing to offer me and I don’t want to give them anything.

    JuanP on Wed, 16th Jan 2019 7:34 am
    I am back, bitches! I just got back from a surfing vacation in Costa Rica. I am recharged and refreshed, and ready to continue fucking with the Exceptionalist for the foreseeable future. Miss me much, Davy?

  26. makati1 on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:18 pm 

    My last post was 6:29 PM…

  27. REAL Green on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:27 pm 

    This hole juanPee thangs got us REAL worked up davy.

    We need to see the docter. REAL Bad like…

  28. Davy on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:54 pm 

    I enjoy rubbing your nose in your lies juanPee. You are like a bad widdle puppy. Lol. You fucked with the wrong person juanPee. Now you will accept the consequences

  29. JuanP on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:56 pm 

    I am sorry Davy. I want to be like you so much.

  30. Anonymouse on Tue, 12th May 2020 7:57 pm 

    Juan, get a life and grow some

  31. h on Tue, 12th May 2020 8:14 pm 

    supertard juanp
    while being junta leader y did u kill all followers of (((supremetard)))

  32. REAL Green on Tue, 12th May 2020 10:03 pm 

    We promised most everyone we’d ignore them if they ignored us. JuanP is ignoring us Davy. Wadda we say we honor our promise and ignore juanPee?

    dumb ass

  33. MGTOW on Tue, 12th May 2020 10:28 pm 

    dumb ass

  34. The Board on Tue, 12th May 2020 11:21 pm 

    We like rubbing your nose in your lies davyscum. You are like a bad widdle puppy. Lol. You fucked with the wrong people Davy. Now you will accept the consequences

  35. REAL Green on Tue, 12th May 2020 11:53 pm 

    So true The Board. So true.

  36. REAL Green on Tue, 12th May 2020 11:59 pm 

    “Davy, your insanity is getting worse, if that is possible. Get help soon.”

    So true makato. So true.

    We need to see the docter. REAL Bad like…

  37. Davy on Wed, 13th May 2020 12:32 am 

    Yeap REAL not Green.

    We need to see the docter REAL BAD like…

  38. Abraham van Helsing on Wed, 13th May 2020 11:35 am 

    Russia and China pushing for Nordic Sea route.

    China-Western Europe:

    Via Arctic – 12,800 km
    Via Suez – 21,000 km
    Via Panama – 24,000 km

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405535214000096

    Speed large ships: 24 knots/50 kmh
    Time gain: 8,200 km = 7 days

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Sea_Route

    Russia wants to build impressive new ice-breakers (Russia has 40, US 2):

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/01/02/moscow-adopts-15-year-grand-plan-for-northern-sea-route-a68798

    “Moscow Adopts 15-Year Grand Plan for Northern Sea Route”

    US not amused.

    https://russia-insider.com/en/us-hatching-plans-remove-rivals-russia-and-china-post-covid-world/ri30122

    “US Hatching Plans to Remove Rivals Russia and China in Post-COVID World”

  39. Abraham van Helsing on Wed, 13th May 2020 3:34 pm 

    UK GDP will contract with 33% in Q2

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8316019/UK-faces-recession-end-recessions-GDP-set-plunge-30.html

    “UK faces ‘recession to end all recessions’ with GDP set to plunge nearly a THIRD this quarter amid coronavirus lockdown and warnings the misery will go on as long as social distancing stays“

    Absolute horror figures.

    Unexpected vulnerabilities of online companies like Amazon: ever more people send products back. Amazon 16%. Big hit for margin.

  40. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 13th May 2020 4:00 pm 

    Everyone knows what is really going on here. Peak oil has arrived. And the world leaders can’t do anything. And they really can’t let the people know. Since they will be blamed for not warning them. So they have dropped this light as a feather virus. That only kills people who are dying of “natural causes” or “have prior health problems”.

    So they can slow down the economy and decrease oil demand. And I assume get a smoke screen to bail out the frackers.

    All I know is this is just a stop gap measure. And the next lockdown will be permanent.

    And its coming faster than last time. In the not too distant future.

    Welcome to a reverse nightmare. You know when you wake up from a nightmare you are so relieved. You will wak up into a nightmare.

  41. Duncan Idaho on Wed, 13th May 2020 4:24 pm 

    Dow 30
    23,247.97
    -516.81(-2.17%)

    Just back from a hike– he Fat Boy and the Thugs couldn’t put it back together.

  42. Duncan Idaho on Wed, 13th May 2020 4:35 pm 

    “he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.”

  43. Duncan Idaho on Wed, 13th May 2020 5:36 pm 

    Might help?

    https://progressive.org/downloads/14309/download/33388885791_6c48f24779_z.jpg

  44. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 13th May 2020 5:52 pm 

    Coronavirus could take FIVE YEARS to bring under control warns WHO’s chief scientist

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-could-take-five-years-to-bring-under-control-warns-whos-chief-scientist/ar-BB142G3h?li=BBoPWjQ

    Welcome to the “new normal”..

    The good ole days may not return..ever.

  45. makati1 on Wed, 13th May 2020 6:23 pm 

    MOB, “the good old days” will NEVER be back. Actually, they were never really good for most people, just the wealthy. Now they probably will not even be good for them, I think. They unleashed a virus and the blow-back will change the whole financial/economic world in ways they could not imagine, and not for their good.

    This ‘flu’ will become another one in a long series of flus that circulate every year. The next one will probably be worse, but…

  46. JuanP on Wed, 13th May 2020 6:30 pm 

    Mak, the good old days are over for you because you are 80 and almost in the ground

  47. makati1 on Wed, 13th May 2020 6:51 pm 

    Davy, give it up. You know I am only 75 and in better health then you are. I’m still enjoying the life of a secure retiree. What is your life like in the locked-down police state called Amerika? Shitty? LMAO!

  48. Davy on Wed, 13th May 2020 7:47 pm 

    makatoo, we live in a new and exceptional age. America is another word for Opportunity. Our whole history appears like a last effort of the Divine Providence in behalf of the human race; and a literal, slavish following of precedents, as by a justice of the peace, is not for those who at this hour lead the AMERICAN CIVILIZATION.

    I hope you drop dead after reading my work so you will go to hell knowing how wrong and stupid you have been your entire life.

  49. makat1 on Wed, 13th May 2020 8:37 pm 

    Juan, I think what Davy is telling you is you fucked with the wrong ombré. He is rubbing your nose in your own shit.

  50. makati1 on Wed, 13th May 2020 9:01 pm 

    My last post – 6:51 pm…

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