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Chris Martenson: Collapse Is Already Here
Many people are expecting some degree of approaching collapse — be it economic, environmental and/or societal — thinking that they’ll recognize the danger signs in time.
As if it will be completely obvious, like a Hollywood blockbuster. Complete with clear warnings from scientists, politicians and the media. And everyone can then get busy either panicking or becoming the plucky heroes.
That’s not how collapse works.
Collapse is a process, not an event.
And it’s already underway, all around us.
Collapse is already here.
However, unlike Hollywood’s vision, the early stages of collapse cause people to cling even tighter to the status quo. Instead of panic in the streets, we simply see more of the same — as those in power do all they can to remain so, while the majority of the public attempts to ignore the growing problems for as long as it possibly can.
For both the elite and the majority, their entire world view and their personal sense of self depends on things not crumbling all around them, so they remain willfully blind to any evidence to the contrary.
When faced with the predicaments we warn about here at PeakProsperity.com, getting an early start on prudently shifting your own personal situation is of vital strategic and tactical importance. Tens of thousands of our readers already have taken wise steps in their lives to position themselves resiliently.
But most of the majority won’t get started until it’s entirely too late to make any difference at all. Which is sad but perhaps unavoidable, given human nature.
If everybody around you is saying “Everything is awesome!”, it can take a long time to determine for yourself that things in fact aren’t:
Real collapse happens slowly, and often without any sort of acknowledgement by the so-called political and economic elites until its abrupt terminal end.
The degree of rot within the Soviet Union went undetected until its final implosion, catching pretty much everyone in the West (as well as in the former USSR!) by surprise.
Similarly, one day people woke up and passenger pigeons were extinct. They used to literally darken the skies for hours as they migrated past, numbering in the billions. Nobody planned on their demise and virtually nobody saw it coming. Sure, just as there always are, a few crackpots at the fringes noticed, but they were ignored until it was too late.
Our view is that collapse of our current way of life is happening right now. The signs are all around us. Our invitation is for you to notice them and inquire critically what the ramifications will be — irrespective of whatever pablum our leaders and media are currently spewing.
While the monetary and financial elites strain to crank out one more day/week/month/year of “market stability”, the ecosystems we depend on for life are vanishing. It’s as if the Rapture were happening, but it’s the insects, plants and animals ascending to heaven instead of we humans.
Committing Ecocide
Be very skeptical when the cause of each new ecological nightmare is ascribed to “natural causes.”
While it’s entire possible for any one ecological mishap to be due to a natural cycle, it’s weak thinking to assign the same cause to dozens of troubling findings happening all over the globe.
As they say in the military: Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. But three times is enemy action.
Right now, Australia is in the middle of the summer season and being absolutely hammered by high heat. Sure it gets hot during an Australian summer, but not like this. The impact has been devastating:
Australia’s Facing an Unprecedented Ecological Crisis, But No One’s Paying Attention
Jan 9, 2019
It started in December, just before Christmas.
Hundreds of dead perch were discovered floating along the banks of the Darling River – victims of a “dirty, rotten green” algae bloom spreading in the still waters of the small country town of Menindee, Australia.
Things didn’t get better. The dead hundreds became dead thousands, as the crisis expanded to claim the lives of 10,000 fish along a 40-kilometre (25-mile) stretch of the river. But the worst was still yet to come.
This week, the environmental disaster has exploded to a horrific new level – what one Twitter user called “Extinction level water degradation” – with reports suggesting up to a million fish have now been killed in a new instance of the toxic algae bloom conditions.
For their part, authorities in the state of New South Wales have only gone as far as confirming “hundreds of thousands” of fish have died in the event – but regardless of the exact toll, it’s clear the deadly calamity is an unprecedented ecological disaster in the region’s waterways.
“I’ve never seen two fish kills of this scale so close together in terms of time, especially in the same stretch of river,” fisheries manager Iain Ellis from NSW Department of Primary Industries (DPI) explained to ABC News.
The DPI blames ongoing drought conditions for the algae bloom’s devastating impact on local bream, cod, and perch species – with a combination of high temperature and chronic low water supply (along with high nutrient concentrations in the water) making for a toxic algal soup.
(Source)
Watching the video above showing grown men crying over the loss of 100-year-old fish is heartbreaking. This fish kill is described as “unprecedented” and as an “extinction level event”, meaning it left no survivors over a long stretch of waterway.
We can try to console oursleves that maybe this was just a singular event, a cluster of bad juju and worse waterway management that combined to give us this horror — but it wasn’t.
It’s part of a larger tapestry of heat-induced misery that Australia is facing:
How one heatwave killed ‘a third’ of a bat species in Australia
Jan 15, 2019
Over two days in November, record-breaking heat in Australia’s north wiped out almost one-third of the nation’s spectacled flying foxes, according to researchers.
The animals, also known as spectacled fruit bats, were unable to survive in temperatures which exceeded 42C.
“It was totally depressing,” one rescuer, David White, told the BBC.
Flying foxes are no more sensitive to extreme heat than some other species, experts say. But because they often gather in urban areas in large numbers, their deaths can be more conspicuous, and easily documented.
“It raises concerns as to the fate of other creatures who have more secretive, secluded lifestyles,” Dr Welbergen says.
He sees the bats as the “the canary in the coal mine for climate change”.
(Source)
A two-day heatwave last November (2018) was sufficient to kill up to a third of all Australia’s known flying foxes, a vulnerable species that was already endangered. As those bats are well-studied and their deaths quite conspicuous to observers, it raises the important question: How many other less-scrutinized species are dying off at the same time?
And the death parade continues:
- More than 90 wild horses die in Australia’s heat wave (Jan 24, 2019)
- Australia heatwave: Mass animal deaths and roads melting as temperatures reach record high (Jan 19, 2019)
- Australia’s Heatwave Responsible for Deaths of Horses, Camels (Jan 24)
Are these data points severe enough for you to recognize as signs of ongoing collapse?
Last summer was a time of extreme draught and heat for Australia, and this summer looks set to be even worse. This may be the country’s ‘new normal’ for if the situation is due to climate change instead of just an ordinary (if punishing) hot cycle.
If so, these heat waves will likely intensify over time, completely collapsing the existing biological systems across Australia.
Meanwhile, nearby in New Zealand, similar species loss is underway:
‘Like losing family’: time may be running out for New Zealand’s most sacred tree
July 2018
New Zealand’s oldest and most sacred tree stands 60 metres from death, as a fungal disease known as kauri dieback spreads unabated across the country.
Tāne Mahuta (Lord of the Forest) is a giant kauri tree located in the Waipoua forest in the north of the country, and is sacred to the Māori people, who regard it as a living ancestor.
The tree is believed to be around 2,500 years old, has a girth of 13.77m and is more than 50m tall.
Thousands of locals and tourists alike visit the tree every year to pay their respects, and take selfies beside the trunk.
Now, the survival of what is believed to be New Zealand’s oldest living tree is threatened by kauri dieback, with kauri trees a mere 60m from Tāne Mahuta confirmed to be infected.
Kauri dieback causes most infected trees to die, and is threatening to completely wipe out New Zealand’s most treasured native tree species, prized for its beauty, strength and use in boats, carvings and buildings.
“We don’t have any time to do the usual scientific trials anymore, we just have to start responding immediately in any way possible; it is not ideal but we have kind of run out of time,” Black says, adding that although there is no cure for kauri dieback there is a range of measures which could slow its progress.
(Source)
People are rallying to try and save the kauri trees, although it’s unclear exactly how to stop the spread of the new fungal invader or why it’s so pathogenic all of a sudden. It could be due to another natural sort of cycle (except the fungus was thought to have been introduced and spread by human activity) or it could be a another collapse indicator we need to finally hear and heed.
It turns out that New Zealand is not alone. Giant trees are dying all over the globe.
2,000-year-old baobab trees in Africa are suddenly and rather mysteriously giving up the ghost. These trees survived happily for 2,000 years and now all of a sudden they’re dying. Are the deaths of our most ancient trees all across the globe some sort of natural process? Or is there a different culprit we need to recognize?
In Japan they’re lamenting record low squid catches. Oh well, maybe it’s just overfishing? Or could it be another message we need to heed?
To all this we can add the numerous scientific articles now decrying the ‘insect Apocalypse’ unfolding across the northern hemisphere. The Guardian recently issued this warning: “Insect collapse: ‘We are destroying our life support systems’”. Researchers in Puerto Rico’s forest preserves recorded a 98% decline in insect mass over 35 years. Does a 98% decline have a natural explanation? Or is something bigger going on?
Meanwhile, the butterfly die-off is unfolding with alarming speed. I rarely see them in the summer anymore, much to my great regret. Seeing one is now as exciting as seeing a meteor streak across the sky, and just as rare:
Monarch butterfly numbers plummet 86 percent in California
Jan 7, 2019
CAMARILLO, Calif. – The number of monarch butterflies turning up at California’s overwintering sites has dropped by about 86 percent compared to only a year ago, according to the Xerces Society, which organizes a yearly count of the iconic creatures.
That’s bad news for a species whose numbers have already declined an estimated 97 percent since the 1980s.
Each year, monarchs in the western United States migrate from inland areas to California’s coastline to spend the winter, usually between September and February.
“It’s been the worst year we’ve ever seen,” said Emma Pelton, a conservation biologist with the Xerces Society who helps lead the annual Thanksgiving count. “We already know we’re dealing with a really small population, and now we have a really bad year and all of a sudden, we’re kind of in crisis mode where we have very, very few butterflies left.”
What’s causing the dramatic drop-off is somewhat of a mystery. Experts believe the decline is spurred by a confluence of unfortunate factors, including late rainy-season storms across California last March, the effects of the state’s years long drought and the seemingly relentless onslaught of wildfires that have burned acres upon acres of habitat and at times choked the air with toxic smoke.
(Source)
Note the “explanation” given blames the decline on mostly natural processes: late storms, droughts and wildfires. I believe that’s because the article appears in a US paper, so no mention was permitted of neonicotinoid pesticides or glyphosate. Both of these are highly effective decimators of insect life — but they’re highly profitable for Big Ag, so for now, any criticism is not allowed.
Sure a 97% decline since the 1980’s might be due to fires, droughts and rains. But that’s really not very likely. There have always been fires, droughts and rains. Something else has shifted since the 1980’s. And that “thing” is human activity, which has increased its willingness to destroy habitat and spray poisons everywhere in pursuit of cheaper food and easier profits.
The loss of insects, which we observe in the loss of the beautiful and iconic Monarch butterfly, is a gigantic warning flag that we desperately need to heed. If the bottom of our billion-year-old food web disintegrates, you can be certain that the repercussions to humans will be dramatic and terribly difficult to ‘fix.’ In scientific terms, it will be called a “bottom-up trophic cascade”.
In a trophic cascade, the loss of a single layer of the food pyramid crumbles the entire structure. Carefully-tuned food webs a billion years in the making are suddenly destabilized. Life cannot adapt quickly enough, and so entire species are quickly lost. Once enough species die off, the web cannot be rewoven, and life … simply ends.
What exactly would a “trophic cascade” look like in real life? Oh, perhaps something just like this:
Deadly deficiency at the heart of an environmental mystery
Oct 16, 2018
During spring and summer, busy colonies of a duck called the common eider (Somateria mollissima) and other wild birds are usually seen breeding on the rocky coasts around the Baltic Sea. Thousands of eager new parents vie for the best spots to build nests and catch food for their demanding young broods.
But Lennart Balk, an environmental biochemist at Stockholm University, witnessed a dramatically different scene when he visited Swedish coastal colonies during a 5-year period starting in 2004. Many birds couldn’t fly. Others were completely paralyzed. Birds also weren’t eating and had difficulty breathing. Thousands of birds were suffering and dying from this paralytic disease, says Balk. “We went into the bird colonies, and we were shocked. You could see something was really wrong. It was a scary situation for this time of year,” he says.
Based on his past work documenting a similar crisis in several Baltic Sea fish species, Balk suspected that the birds’ disease was caused by a thiamine (vitamin B1) deficiency. Thiamine is required for critical metabolic processes, such as energy production and proper functioning of the nervous system.
This essential micronutrient is produced mainly by plants, including phytoplankton, bacteria, and fungi; people and animals must acquire it through their food.
“We found that thiamine deficiency is much more widespread and severe than previously thought,” Balk says. Given its scope, he suggests that a pervasive thiamine deficiency could be at least partly responsible for global wildlife population declines. Over a 60-year period up to 2010, for example, worldwide seabird populations declined by approximately 70%, and globally, species are being lost 1,000 times faster than the natural rate of extinction (9, 10). “He has seen a thiamine deficiency in several differ phyla now,” says Fitzsimons of Balk. “One wonders what is going on. It’s a larger issue than we first suspected.”
(Source)
This is beyond disturbing. It should have been on the front pages of every newspaper and TV show across the globe. We should be discussing it in urgent, worried tones and devoting a huge amount of money to studying and fixing it. At a minimum, we should stop hauling more tiny fish and krill from the sea in an effort to at least stabilize the food pyramid while we sort things out.
If you recall, we’ve also recently reported on the findings showing that phytoplankton levels are down 50% (these are a prime source for thiamine, by the way). Again, here’s a possible “trophic cascade” in progress:
(Source)
Fewer phytoplankton means less thiamine being produced. That means less thiamine is available to pass up the food chain. Next thing you know, there’s a 70% decline in seabird populations.
This is something I’ve noticed directly and commented n during my annual pilgrimages to the northern Maine coast over the past 30 years, where seagulls used to be extremely common and are now practically gone. Seagulls!
Next thing you know, some other major food chain will be wiped out and we’ll get oceans full of jellyfish instead of actual fish. Or perhaps some once-benign mold grows unchecked because the former complex food web holding it in balance has collapsed, suddenyl transforming Big Ag’s “green revolution” into grayish-brown spore-ridden dust.
To add to the terrifying mix of ecological news has been the sudden and rapid loss of amphibian species all over the world. A possible source for the culprit has been found, if that’s any consolation; though that discovery does not yet identify a solution to this saddening development.
Ground Zero of Amphibian ‘Apocalypse’ Finally Found
May 10, 2018
MANY OF THE world’s amphibians are staring down an existential threat: an ancient skin-eating fungus that can wipe out entire forests’ worth of frogs in a flash.
This ecological super-villain, the chytrid fungus Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis, has driven more than 200 amphibian species to extinction or near-extinction—radically rewiring ecosystems all over Earth.
“This is the worst pathogen in the history of the world, as far as we can tell, in terms of its impacts on biodiversity,” says Mat Fisher, an Imperial College London mycologist who studies the fungus.
Now, a global team of 58 researchers has uncovered the creature’s origin story. A groundbreaking study published in Science on Thursday reveals where and when the fungus most likely emerged: the Korean peninsula, sometime during the 1950s.
From there, scientists theorize that human activities inadvertently spread it far and wide—leading to amphibian die-offs across the Americas, Africa, Europe, and Australia.
(Source)
Frogs, toads and salamanders were absolutely critical parts of my childhood and I delighted in their presence. I cannot imagine a world without them. But effectively, that’s what we’ve got now with so many on the endangered species list.
This parade of awful ecological news is both endless and worsening. And there is no real prospect for us to fix things in time to avoid substantial ecological pain. None.
After all, we can’t even manage our watersheds properly. And those are dead simple by comparison. Water falls from the sky in (Mostly) predictable volume and you then distribute somewhat less than that total each year. Linear and simple in comparison to trying to unravel the many factors underlying a specie’s collapse.
But challenges like this are popping up all over the globe:
Fear And Grieving In Las Vegas: Colorado River Managers Struggle With Water Scarcity
Dec 14th, 2018
On stage in a conference room at Las Vegas’s Caesars Palace, Keith Moses said coming to terms with the limits of the Colorado River is like losing a loved one.
“It reminds me of the seven stages of grief,” Moses said. “Because I think we’ve been in denial for a long time.”
Moses is vice chairman of the Colorado River Indian Tribes, a group of four tribes near Parker, Arizona. He was speaking at the annual Colorado River Water Users Association meeting.
The denial turned to pain and guilt as it became clear just how big the supply and demand gaps were on the river that delivers water to 40 million people in the southwest.
For the last six months Arizona’s water leaders have been experiencing the third stage of grief: anger and bargaining.
Of the seven U.S. states that rely on the Colorado River, Arizona has had the hardest time figuring out how to rein in water use and avoid seeing the river’s largest reservoirs — Lakes Mead and Powell — drop to extremely low levels.
Kathryn Sorenson, director of Phoenix’s water utility, characterized the process this way: “Interesting. Complicated. Some might say difficult.”
One of the loudest voices in the debate has been coming from a small group of farmers in rural Pinal County, Arizona, south of Phoenix.
Under the current rules those farmers could see their Colorado River supplies zeroed out within two years.
The county’s biggest grower of cotton and alfalfa, Brian Rhodes, is trying to make sure that doesn’t happen. The soil in his fields is powder-like, bursting into tiny brown clouds with each step.
“We’re going to have to take large cuts,” Rhodes said. “We all understand that.”
(Source)
Oh my goodness. If we’re having trouble realizing that wasting precious water from the Colorado River to grow cotton is a bad idea, then there’s just no hope at all that we’ll successfully rally to address the loss of ocean phytoplankton.
That’s about the easiest connection of dots that could ever be made. As Sam Kinison, the 1980’s comedian might have yelled – IT’S A DESERT!! YOU’RE TRYING TO GROW WATER-INTENSIVE CROPS IN THE FREAKING DESERT! CAN’T YOU SEE ALL THE SAND AROUND YOU?!? THAT MEANS “DON’T GROW COTTON HERE!!”
A World On The Brink
The bottom line is this: We are destroying the natural world. And that means that we are destroying ourselves.
I know that the mainstream news has relegated this conversation to the back pages (when they covered it at all) and so it’s not “front and center” for most people. But it should be.
Everything we hold dear is a subset of the ecosphere. If that goes, so does everything else. Nothing else matters in the slightest if we actively destroy the Earth’s carrying capacity.
At the same time, we’re in the grips of an extremely dangerous delusion that has placed money, finance and the economy at the top spot on our temple of daily worship.
Any idea of slowing down or stopping economic growth is “bad for business” and dismissed out of hand as “not practical”, “undesirable” or “unwise”. It’s always a bad time to discuss the end of economic growth, apparently.
But as today’s young people are increasingly discovering, if “conducting business” is just a lame rationale for failed stewardship of our lands and oceans, then it’s a broken idea. One not worth preserving in its current form.
The parade of terrible ecological breakdowns provided above is there for all willing to see it. Are you willing? Each failing ecosystem is screaming at us in urgent, strident tones that we’ve gone too far in our quest for “more”.
We might be able to explain away each failure individually. But taken as a whole? The pattern is clear: We’ve got enemy action at work. These are not random coincidences.
Nature is warning us loudly that it’s past time to change our ways. That our “endless growth” model is no longer valid. In fact, it’s now becoming an existential threat
The collapse is underway. It’s just not being televised (yet).
Davos As Destiny
And don’t expect the cavalry to arrive.
Our leadership is absolutely not up to the task. If the Davos conference currently underway in Switzerland is a sign of anything at all, it’s that we’re doomed.
The world has been taken over by bankers and financiers too smitten by their love of money to notice much else or be of any practical service to the world.
By way of illustrative example, here’s the big techno-feel-good idea unveiled on the second day of the conference. The crowds there loved it:
Yes, folks, this is what the world most desperately needs at this time! /sarc
While I’m sure drone-delivered books is a heartwarming story, it’s completely diversionary and utterly meaningless in the face of collapsing oceanic and terrestrial food webs.
Sadly, this is exactly the sort of inane distraction most admired by the Davos set in large part because it helps them feel a tiny bit better about their ill-gotten wealth. “Look! We’re supporting good thngs!” The ugly truth is that big wealth’s main pursuit is to distort political processes and rules to assure they get to keep it and even amass more.
Drones carrying books to Indonesian children provides the same sort of dopamine rush to a Davos attendee as Facebook ‘like’ gives to a 14-year-old. Temporary, cheap, superficial and ultimately meaningless.
The same is true of their other feel-good theme of the day. “Scientists” have discovered an enzyme that eats plastics:
That’s swell, but you know what would be even better? Not using the bottles in the first place. Which could be accomplished by providing access to safe, potable water as a basic human right and using re-usable containers. Of course, that would offer less chances for private wealth accumulation so instead the Davos crowd is fixated on the profitable solution vs. doing the right thing.
In viritually every instance, the Davos crowd wants to preserve industry and our consumer culture as it is, using technology and gimmicks in attempt to remedy the ills that result. There’s money to be made on both ends of that story.
The only thing that approach lacks is a future. Because it’s not-so-subtly based on continued “growth”. Infinite exponential growth. The exact same growth that is killing ancient trees, sea birds, insects, amphibians, and phytoplankton.
Who wants more of that? Insane people.
In other words, don’t hold out any hope that the Davos set representing the so-called “elite” from every prominent nation on earth are going to somehow bravely offer up real insights on our massive predicaments and solutions to our looming problems. They’re too consumed with their own egos and busy preening for prominence to notice the danger or care.
As they pointlessly fritter away another expensive gathering, the ecological world is unraveling all around them. The oceans are becoming a barren wasteland. The ancient trees are dying. Heatwaves are melting tar and killing life. The web of life is snapping strand by strand and nobody can predict what happens next.
In other words, if you held out any hope that “they” would somehow rally to the cause you’d best set that completely aside. It’s no wonder social anger against tone-deaf and plundering elites is breaking out right now.
From here, there are only two likely paths:
(1) We humans simply cannot self-organize to address these plights and carry on until the bitter end, when something catastrophic happens that collapses our natural support systems.
(2) We see the light, gather our courage, and do what needs to be done. Consumption is widely and steeply curtailed, fossil fuel use is severely restrained, and living standards as measured by the amount of stuff flowing through our daily lives are dropped to sustainable levels.
Either path means enormous changes are coming, probably for you and definitely for your children and grandchildren.
In Part 2: Facing Reality we dive into what developments to expect as our systems continue further along their trophic cascade. Which markers and milestones should we monitor most closely to know when the next breaking point is upon us?
To reiterate: Massive change is now inevitable and in progress.
Collapse has already begun.
222 Comments on "Chris Martenson: Collapse Is Already Here"
JuanP on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 8:43 am
Davy is alone with his imaginary friends because he is thoroughly unlovable!
Davy on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 9:04 am
Wow Juanpee brain you are giving me great material for my nightly report. Lunatic is all you are anymore. Another extremist bites the dust. LMFAO or like you say ROTFLMAO. Love it!
Antius on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 9:09 am
JuanP, for god sake get some Prozac. You have ruined this board with endless meaningless trash comments. No one is impressed so give it a rest. Do you not have a real job to go to? Or at least, something meaningful to say on a remotely energy / geopolitical topic?
Anti-AnusSkum on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 9:25 am
Anti-Anus,
Shut-up. You add nothing of value to the conversation except to aid your right-wing political buddy, DavySkum.
Your motives are so obvious.
DavySkum on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 9:31 am
DavySkum-
You have way too much time. Must get boring having been exiled to the Ozarks after bankrupting family and friends in a failed agricultural scam.
Thank goodness for mommy and daddy’s trust fund.
You like going to the Ozarks playing deplorable. Driving around in your big pick-up truck with mud flaps so you look authentic. What an imposter.
Davy on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 9:43 am
DirtyJuanPimmigrant. I have a vast, and highly successful farm, that totals some 400 acres, or, 500 acres, or a little less than 1 acre, depending on who I am trying to impress at any given moment here at PO.com. When TSHTF, I will laughing my head off at the thought of you dining on drown rat souffle and raw seagull in the sunken ruins of downtown Miami.
I however, thanks to my 400, 500 or 1 acre holdings mentioned above, will be dining on fresh fruits and vegetables, goat cheese, and drinking fine wine grown in my Italian doomsteads vineyards and then flown to America in an Israeli-made autonomous electric plane. (Cloggie will be the pilot, but not really, he will just be reading a book or something, while the planes robo-brain does all the actual work). Cloggie is not exactly what you would call hands-on prepper like me, he is more of an abstract, theoretical, ‘could be-maybe-someday’ kind of prepper. I am ok with that though so its all good. Anyhow thanks to my hands-on-prepping and genius level perma-culture skills, I will be well positioned to be declared King of Greater America (for life. Once crowned, it will be a mere formality to appoint NedeLiar my Minster of Education and Science.
You JuanP, otoh, will spend your days fighting death matches in the octagon just to win a filthy bag of half-melted M&M’s, and if you are lucky, maybe some stale crackers as well. But only if your performance in the cage happens to please the crowd of gap-toothed, slack-jawed and radiation-scarred mutant wet-back chico spectators screaming for your blood in the stands.
As you slowly waste away to nothing due to malnutrition, you will wish you had not such a big meany to meanie to me on the internet, especially after all the effort I made to be the most fair and balanced thinker and gentleman farmer to ever exist.
However, as befitting my legendary and widely acknowledged sense of fairness and balance, I may dispatch one of my Lear-Jets to Florida to air-drop you a food-aid package consisting of a bottle of tequila and a few taco shells. My Lear-Jet will be powered by bio-fuels derived from goat-feces so the flight to drop you your taco-shells will be 100% carbon-neutral.
Dumbass
JuanP on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 10:39 am
Delusional Davy “Wow Juanpee brain you are giving me great material for my nightly report.”
Knock yourself out, fool! And don’t forget to save a copy for your kids! ROFLMFAO!
JuanP on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 10:48 am
“JuanP, for god sake get some Prozac. You have ruined this board with endless meaningless trash comments. No one is impressed so give it a rest. Do you not have a real job to go to?”
This comment, supposedly written by Antius, sounds just like Delusional Davy. The sentence “No one is impressed by it so give it a rest” has been used by the Exceptionalist many times before. Language usage is like a fingerprint and unique to each individual. You are not fooling anyone, Davy, just making a fool of your self with your sock puppets and identity theft. These games you play are a reflection of your intellectual weakness, cowardice and insanity, pussy.
Cloggie on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 1:50 pm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6640791/China-flaunts-supersonic-nuclear-missile-reach-sink-moving-aircraft-carriers.html
“China launches supersonic nuclear missile that ‘could reach US territory and sink moving aircraft carriers’ during a drill amid tensions between Beijing and Washington”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6639637/Piers-Morgan-blasts-MSP-brands-Winston-Churchill-white-supremacist-mass-murderer.html
“‘You’re a thick ginger turd’: Piers Morgan blasts Scotland’s youngest MSP after he brands Winston Churchill a ‘white supremacist mass murderer’ in ‘attention seeking’ Twitter outburst”
(pssst, the green politician is right)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6639399/Brexit-leave-UK-unstable-decades-violence-streets-EU-secret-report-warns.html
“Brexit will leave the UK ‘unstable’ for decades with violence on the streets and independence referendums in Scotland and Northern Ireland, EU intelligence secret report warns”
Senior intelligence officials warned that civil unrest and rioting is almost inevitable and the UK will be left ‘unstable’ for decades.
The EU report also claims there will be independence referendums in both Scotland and Northern Ireland with 18 months of the UK leaving the EU.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6639365/Young-people-losing-faith-Labour-leader-Jeremy-Corbyn-Brexit.html
Young people are losing faith in Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn amid a dramatic fall in support for his Brexit policy, new poll reveals
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6640401/Major-supermarkets-including-Asda-Sainsburys-Lidl-warn-against-no-deal-Brexit.html
Major supermarkets including Asda, Sainsbury’s and Lidl warn a no deal Brexit will cause soaring prices and shortages of fresh fruit and veg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6639597/Mays-lifeline-Senior-Tories-sign-No-10-backed-Brady-amendment.html
‘Support us Boris!’: Theresa May clashes with Johnson in fiery scenes as she tells him and Tory MPs to back amendment that could save her deal – just moments after Rees-Mogg told them to kill it off
george on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 8:01 pm
Gangway you helots
Davy on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 8:05 pm
Welcome to my board george. I like the way you think.
What country are you from friend?
Anonymouse on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 8:52 pm
ROFL. This is far better than anything on TV.
And no, not you cloggenKike. You are fooking fraud and world class yidiot.
makati1 on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 9:04 pm
Anon, I thought Davy’s post welcoming george is hilarious! As if this is his board. An arrogant delusion supreme! Only in America could such a psychopath as Davy be allowed to run loose. But then, the US is run by similar mentally warped individuals. What America has degraded to! Below even 3rd world levels.
Now MOB will pop up, if he hasn’t frozen his balls off in the subfreezing temps in his neighborhood. 17F there already and going down tonite. Davy is having a heat wave at 22F and sliding. 76F and steady here at 11 AM Tuesday. ^_^
makati1 on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 9:07 pm
BTW: is george another Davy bot? Sounds like it.
I AM THE MOB on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 9:44 pm
Just wait till the oil shortage hits in a few years..I guarantee the anti abortion crowd will be the first ones calling for genocide to lower the global population
Cloggie on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 11:18 pm
Oh ze enrichment!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6642529/More-HALF-boys-young-offender-jails-black-ethnic-minority-backgrounds.html
Fortunately the empire will go flat on its face soon and western Europe will finally get a “1989” of its own and the cleanup can begin in earnest.
makati1 on Mon, 28th Jan 2019 11:49 pm
MOB, put away that ’12 year old’ mentality and grow up. MAD MAX is not going to happen. True, the US is getting desperate to control the world, but that too is not going to happen. This graph tells you all you need to know about the US oil grab in Venezuela and why the ‘oil shortage’ is not in the near future, if ever.
http://bitsbusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/oil-reserves-by-country.jpg
Sorry. You are going to have to get your ass out of mom’s basement and work for your living like everyone else. No ‘disaster’ to blame your worthlessness on. LOL
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 3:28 am
Mak
No OPEC country has ever allowed an independent audit..So the majority of your chart is not credible..
University of California: Environmental Science & Technology (Malyshkina 2010)
1. It Will Take 131 Years to Replace Oil with Alternatives
2. World oil production will peak between 2010-2030
3. World proven oil reserves gone by 2041
https://www.scribd.com/document/394656677/Future-Sustainability-Forecasting-by-Exchange-Markets-Basic-Theory-and-an-Application-Malyshkina-2010
A global energy assessment (Jefferson 2016)
An extensive new scientific analysis conducted by the Former Chief Economist Michael Jefferson at Royal Dutch Shell published in Wiley Interdisciplinary Reviews titled “A Global Energy Assessment 2016” : says “that proved conventional oil reserves as detailed in oil industry sources are likely “overstated” by half.” & “punt bluntly,the standard claim that the world has proved conventional oil reserves of nearly 1.7 trillion barrels is overstated by about 876 billion barrels. Thus, despite the fall in crude oil prices from a peak in June 2014, after that of July 2008, the “peak oil” issue remains with us.”
The World in the 21st Century is faced with huge challenges that go far beyond, but importantly include, energy challenges on the supply, access, and use sides. So severe are these challenges, mainly arising from the demands of a rapidly increasing human population on the Earth’s limited resources, that the future existence of large numbers of people may be threatened with extinction. In that sense, we may be observing the twilight of the Anthropocene (Human) Age.
https://www.scribd.com/document/394043449/A-Global-Energy-Assessment-Jefferson-2015
Projection of world fossil fuels by country (Mohr, 2015) Fuel
Over 900 different regions and subfuel situations were modeled using three URR scenarios of Low, High, and Best Guess. All three scenarios indicate that the consistent strong growth in world fossil fuel production is likely to cease after 2025. The Low and Best Guess scenarios are projected to peak before 2025 and decline thereafter. The High scenario is anticipated to have a strong growth to 2025 before stagnating in production for 50 years and thereafter declining.
https://www.scribd.com/document/375110317/Projection-of-World-Fossil-Fuels-by-Country-Mohr-2015
IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Saudi Arabia’s Energy Minister Warns of World Oil Shortages Ahead
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790
There will be an oil shortage in the 2020’s, Goldman Sachs says
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/09/goldman-sachs-there-will-be-an-oil-shortage-in-the-2020s.html
Wood Mackenzie warns of oil and gas supply crunch
https://www.ft.com/content/a1eb0e58-d7a4-11e8-ab8e-6be0dcf18713
Imminent peak oil could burst US, global economic bubble – study
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/nov/19/peak-oil-economicgrowth
German Military (leaked) Peak Oil study: oil is used in the production of 95% of all industrial goods, so a shortage of oil would collapse the world economy & world governments
https://www.scribd.com/document/387459134/german
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 3:34 am
Mak
You better move back to America..Asia is the worlds largest oil importer..And remember just a 4 percent shortage back in the 1970’s in America caused all hell to break lose..Imagine when Asia has a 20 percent (or higher) shortage..
The US will be energy independent by 2020..The US will likely be the only man standing over this next decade.And china has the worlds highest debt amount..
You picked the wrong place because you didn’t know how to accurately calculate China’s. debt..Maybe you should have went to college..Instead of scrubbing toilets..And wearing magic mormon underwear..
LOL
DerHundistLos on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 4:13 am
Ecosystems are already starting to crumble where no people live so nobody sees it. Meanwhile, a lot of very smart well-informed people are scared as hell, but hush-hushed. A growing chorus of scientists, but very few public voices, believe society is fast approaching an ecological apocalypse It’s why Prof. Jem Bendell wrote “Deep Adaptation”.
Thoughts about “what’s important” in the face of near extinction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZJtFZZYmM
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 4:21 am
A cure for cancer? Israeli scientists say they think they found one
https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/A-cure-for-cancer-Israeli-scientists-say-they-think-they-found-one-578939
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 5:08 am
CW2 Eurostyle
“The French Revolution: Part Deux”
https://tinyurl.com/yas9h9tr
“But France has survived Robespierre, Napoleon and other demagogues into the present day and, for many years, the socialist party has dominated France. But, in the last election, in 2017, centrist Emmanuel Macron was elected President. Today, France has had 220 years to sort out its “temporary dictatorship” by the proletariat and should now be the peaceful congregation of happy workers who treasure the lack of exploitation that’s the hallmark of the socialist ideal. So, let’s have a look at recent events, to inform us as to how it’s going: In 2017, France officially was declared the European nation in which the highest number of voters (78%) now believe that their government doesn’t care about them or their concerns. Recently, Government raised the gasoline tax to 64%, ostensibly to address climate change, but intended to be credited to General Revenue. Conversely, massive cuts were made to basic government services, including a €62 million decrease in the law enforcement budget. At the same time, an incredible €40 billion was allocated for immigrant housing at a time when the average Frenchman fears losing his home, due to high mortgage costs. As a result of the Gilets Jaunes protests, approval for the government has dropped below 20%.”
“So – socialist/globalist France appears to be imploding. Is it time to dust off the guillotines? Well, we may not be at that point just yet, but neither are we far off. The EU experiment is nearing its sell-by date, the French government is broke. The State has flung the doors open to tens of millions of refugee immigrants, and made the commitment to pay their way, with funding that simply doesn’t exist. Although the French people may not be aware of it, these are in fact, “the good old days.” What’s headed their way will be decidedly more oppressive and more chaotic.”
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 5:14 am
Clogged, give us those positively positive numbers you like to sport on Italy about how they are the richest in the world per capita..pretty please:
“Italy Starts Handing Out Free Money: What Could Go Wrong?”
https://tinyurl.com/y76ggerb
“But one of its proposals has attracted genuine interest from across the world: The idea of a “citizens’ income.” This concept (a less radical version of the “universal basic income” scheme tried out by Finland) could in theory appeal to both the left and the right; the former because it might reduce inequality, and the latter because it could simplify social security. After a long gestation, Five Star is rolling out its plan in Italy. Unfortunately, the plan has little of the revolutionary spirit of Milton Friedman’s idea for a simple guaranteed basic income for all citizens, jobless or not, and is more like a classic welfare-to-work program. After a deep recession and weak recovery, there’s a strong case for helping Italy’s left-behind. The worrying thing is that this experiment becomes an administrative nightmare, making it harder to target those most in need. Italy’s new citizens’ income is for households earning less than 9,360 euros ($10,612) a year. It’s made up of an income support scheme and a housing allowance, which can add up to 780 euros a month for a single person with no income. It is aimed at pensioners and people of working age. The latter must be willing to accept a suitable job, or else lose the benefit – hence its difference to more radical basic income schemes. Companies will get a discount on their social security contributions when they hire a citizens’ income recipient. The country clearly needs to help its poor. About one-fifth of its citizens are at risk of poverty, according to the country’s statistics agency, and one in ten lives with serious deprivation. This is worse than in 2008, when the figures stood at 18.9 percent and 7.5 percent respectively. Previous center-left governments passed a different support scheme, but it was far smaller than Five Star’s program.”
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 5:19 am
Clogged’s grand Euo army:
“Half Of German Army Recruits ‘Unfit For Service’”
https://tinyurl.com/y7fwyuqz
“But as we’ve reported previously, this has proved easier said than done. Because even after dramatically scaling back its standards, the German military has been having trouble recruiting qualified specialists and officers, which has prompted speculation that they could look outside Germany to other EU nations for badly needed recruits. And unfortunately for Germany, even the soldiers they have managed to recruit aren’t particularly well suited for the job, according to reports in the German press highlighted by RT. By one metric, only half of German recruits are considered ‘suitable’ for service. The report, published by German newspaper Bild, purports to cite internal army documents. German military is plagued by various blunders these days, and there is one more – it emerged that only half of potential recruits are suitable for service, Bild revealed. Others are reportedly unfit or have no German passport. Bad news about the imperfect state of the Bundeswehr are coming regularly, but this one seems to be even worse, according to Bild am Sonntag tabloid. Citing internal army papers, outlet writes that only half of the 760,000-strong pool of potential recruits is eligible to serve. The Bundeswehr currently has 25,000 job openings, including doctors, engineers and specialized field positions like combat swimmers. The reality, however, looks murky as around 25,000 army jobs are up for grabs due to the lack of available personnel. In addition, every fifth civilian position in the Bundeswehr remains vacant. IT professionals or doctors are most wanted in the Bundeswehr, but there is a shortage of other specialists such as combat swimmers.”
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 6:54 am
“Climate Action Can No Longer Wait”
https://tinyurl.com/y8zok93f
(graph) https://tinyurl.com/y8xgybja
“In an article in The New Yorker (26 Nov 2018), Bill McKibben, the founder of 350.org, quotes Alex Steffen, who famously referred to the conspiracy to hide the truth and confuse the clueless public as “the most consequential deception in mankind’s history.” It is a colossal understatement. What could have been essentially solved by now at relatively little cost had we started in the 1970s and ’80s will cost us at least twice as much today – and far more the longer we wait. And still, our political leaders are either giving it mere lip service or — in the case of President Donald Trump, for example — not even that (box on right).”
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 6:55 am
I agree we may have been able to partially solve our current problem if we would have started in earnest around 1970. Where the above article goes astray is the belief that fake greens are right and status quo is wrong. Fake greens are wrong too. They want to change via technology with a “happy clean” feel. This is BS. Behavior is the problem across the spectrum both with status quo denial and fake green hooey. What the fake greens don’t tell you is the cost of the destructive change ahead. They do not want to admit the damaged goods that is our late stage capitalistic global system is barely holding together let alone go through dramatic change. No, it is all about fancy tech and pristine environment ahead if you follow them.
If we were real green then real change would happen but make no mistake it will be a dangerous and painful experiment because of overpopulation and over consumption. We are at boundaries of collapse so any and all efforts will pressure that boundary. A break will likely leave the system unable to transition and we don’t know where that weak point is exactly. To continue with what we have to maybe transition may kill the climate. You are not going to produce a transitional global economy based upon fantasy of sustainable development by developing when development is the problem. You can do a variety of things that all have negative consequences. You can try to do what does the least amount of damage but then you are choosing sides because any direction affects some more than others. That means some force and authoritarian has to be at least considered. Corruption must be exposed and all must sacrifice.
Real green calls for localism and less consumption. Population must be less so draconian population efforts would have to occur. Real green calls for permaculture but also a gradual phase out of industrial agriculture. You can’t stop feeding people and expect the system to still hold together and permaculture cannot now because so much has been lost and the population is too large. Real green calls for a rejection of technology based transition and calls for a behavioral based transition instead. This means wisdom will determine what technological efforts fit into an overall degrowth scenario. Real green acknowledges that these changes are more destructive than constructive so the already damaged goods that is the global economy may not survive. If this late stage capitalistic global economy does not hold together than the whole effort at technology and behavioral change will be thrown into disarray. This is why education of the population is so important and it is why very careful efforts must be made through wisdom.
The last part of “Real” real green is an acknowledgement that these necessary behavior changes will not happen. Some may happen here and there ad hoc but the needed changes are more than is capable in our current civilization of cooperative/competition at this late of a stage. Real green then calls for an escape pod for individuals and communities. This then becomes a micro effort at the grass roots level of prepping for the inevitable collapse of civilization at some point once the collapse process runs its course. This means localized and individual efforts that create micro transitions and transformations. Not all locations can approach a transition of sorts. A transition of sorts would be a local that can reboot post collapse in some way. Some can only transform for an inevitable break up. Some places have no future, effort or not but there still should be prep for less pain. Real green says now while things are working is the time to get the deadwood out. It is the time to change behavior and prepare. It is also a time if you are happy then to enjoy that happiness to its fullest because we are close to painful and dramatic times. Many in the world are already in painful times this talk is less for them. It will soon be the relatively “well off” time for pain.
There are some great technologies coming out. There are many great efforts but they will ultimately fail because the behavior is not there and population and consumption are in overshoot. Overshoot is too powerful to overcome at this point but it can be manage on the way down by some. Fake greens still want affluence and status quo and this human nature is not going to change so there will be no top down progress. Diminishing returns are everywhere with efficiency gains and technology. Behavior is going in the wrong direction.
Real green calls for relative sacrifice and salvage of the new and old. It calls for triage of bad behavior and physical clutter. It calls for the individual and small community to do this yielding to greater forces that cannot be beaten. If calls for whenever possible remaining under the radar and deflecting approaching trouble to garner and maintain strength IOW don’t piss away your strength on lost causes. It also involves basics of security and the readiness to battle when the home turf is attacked. Real green is about acceptance and the stoic activity of the walking dead. Not that you should be sad in this behavior. It is about accepting the end of what we have and something that will be ahead. It is likely a rebirth will not be for any of us but we can lay the foundation of what might be a rebirth. That is the best it gets for a future and meaning. It is about the truth and the heroics of following the truth in the face of dramatic and destructive change.
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 7:34 am
I think I’ll go see if I can find my goat now before it freezes to death.
growpermaculture.com on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 8:37 am
Juan, do you know about us? If so contact me. I am trying to find you!!
koreen@growpermaculture.com
Graduates Mario Yanez and Elena Naranjo run a wonderful project in Homestead, near Miami. A 22 acre permaculture farm supports a LEED housing neighborhood created to help homeless get back on their feet. There is also a new LEED building that houses a commercial kitchen, classroom/meeting area, farmer’s market space and storefront. Mario is thinking big and has created food summits, hosted a financial permaculture conference and continues to create training opportunities for the residents of the program and many others. Elena and Mario are trying everything permaculture on the farm, from large aquaculture ponds to plant guilds, herb spirals, keyhole beds, integrating animals, and intensive tree cropping moringa alleys. We are excited to see where this project will go – they are already accomplishing a great deal and there remains huge potential. http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/10/3224016/healing-gardens-horticulture-therapy.html
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 8:41 am
CLogg EU Army are too fat! Too much German fudge! And we know the French can’t fight! And we know Polish people aren’t to bright!
LOL
Sissyfuss on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 9:05 am
Davy, real green is a massive die-off and it is on its way. Gaia has always had the system in place, from hydrogen sulfide oceans to runaway warming and the disappearance of harvest cycles. As a species we are doing everything to guarantee disaster. We are not changing as we are too busy rationalizing and denying. We have gone from the tepid actions of Obama to the outright pillage of Trump. We are turning the miraculous masterpiece of the Universe into a lifeless sewer. The youth of the world are starting to realize that they will become the children of the damned as hope is systematically extinguished along with functioning natural environment. The road not taken has turned out to be the one we needed to take.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 9:16 am
Bill Gates says poverty is decreasing. He couldn’t be more wrong
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/29/bill-gates-davos-global-poverty-infographic-neoliberal
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 9:18 am
“Davy, real green is a massive die-off and it is on its way. Gaia has always had the system in place, from hydrogen sulfide oceans to runaway warming and the disappearance of harvest cycles. As a species we are doing everything to guarantee disaster.”
I agree but as mammals and mortals the timing of this is very relevant. I am preaching a real green movement for the individual. Nothing special just my view from my awakening. This calls for action now while we are still alive. It tries to avoid pointing fingers but of course in this polarized world those who point fingers must be called out and justify their actions.
“ We are not changing as we are too busy rationalizing and denying. We have gone from the tepid actions of Obama to the outright pillage of Trump. We are turning the miraculous masterpiece of the Universe into a lifeless sewer.”
There was no real action from Obama. He is a criminal and a fake. If he was half a man he would give back his Nobel Peace Prize. When you interject politics you show an emotional streak that lessens your better judgement. My real green chooses to bypass the political because it is so useless for real green effort. The system is broken on both sides either or. Status quo conservatives but also fake green liberal’s politics are flawed. I do believe fake green is better at least in regards to pumping out renewable infrastructure but they are also tearing the country apart with identity violence. Many of the most affluent are hypocritical liberals. There are no good words for status quo conservatives so I won’t waste your time. You hardcore liberals have the trashing of conservative America down to an art. It is ashamed you can’t look in the mirror. You all would maybe change for the better.
“The youth of the world are starting to realize that they will become the children of the damned as hope is systematically extinguished along with functioning natural environment. The road not taken has turned out to be the one we needed to take.”
So do we cry over spilled milk and lynch people like the MOB is advocating? I say we build hospices and lifeboats so some will survive.
DerHundistLos on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 10:04 am
~~~~Sissyfuss~~~~
You impart much wisdom, friend. If only they would listen before it’s too late….
DerHundistLos on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 10:08 am
” You hardcore liberals have the trashing of conservative America down to an art.”
Sissyfuss and I deal in FACTS. It does not require a rocket science to discern the monumental difference between the two. Would it help if I listed the environmental changes enacted Trump vs Obama?
Probably not. Your heart and soul are flowing over with BLIND hate.
Go ahead now with your speal that I’m a “lying liberal”, etc.
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 10:16 am
You are definitely not right der hund. I assume calling MOB your bro means you approve of his plans to kill rich whites and breed their daughters?? Oh in your case great grandkids. BTW. You are a high net worth individual per your own words so that makes you easily an over consumer. I applaud you on your wildlife restoration but wonder why you don’t do things locally??
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 10:33 am
Bill Gates is nothing more than bourgeois piece of shit.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 10:37 am
Davy
Your as naive as it gets..Build some life boats? So what the spoiled elites like you can survive..HA!
The only thing keeping you alive right now is the rule of law and a semi prosperous society around you..Take those two away..And you dead meat..
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 10:48 am
Who is naive MOB? Killing rich whites and breeding their daughters takes the prize.
Duncan Idaho on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 11:02 am
“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
― Frank Zappa
Cloggie on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 12:35 pm
Look mobster, Spain is rapidly moving to the right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNisZepA8ns
Sorry Hillary, it is already too late. Your empire is toast:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/hillary-clinton-europe-must-curb-immigration-stop-populists-trump-brexit
Won’t be long before we cross the ocean and take back those Europeans (and soil) who identify as such. And for mobster there will be no place to hide.
Reconquista!
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 2:10 pm
Howard Schulz is a comrade.
Look how good this guy is at illustrating the utter stupidity and greed of the American ruling class. How are the centrists going to argue we shouldn’t take all this guy’s stuff?
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 2:22 pm
Clogg
The more countries move to the right the worse their economy is.
Its not migration causing the populist movements its the economy stupid.
Just like during the first depression..History is just repeating itself..The german army secret peak oil study predicted this all back in 2010..
https://www.scribd.com/document/387459134/German-Army-Peak-Oil-Study
Your region is headed for total collapse and you think its good thing..You think putting the dumbest most corrupt in power will solve everything..
Your done when the oil shortage hits..Simple as that..Don’t worry we will pick any crumbs that are left from the fallout like after WW2..
LOL
Davy on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 2:25 pm
I am intrigued by an independent. So many normal people are sick of the party politics in DC. This next election may be the year of an independent . I know one thing if you don’t like him MOB I am sure he is worth looking at.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 2:48 pm
Clogg
Germany Army secret (leaked) peak oil study (2010)
Page 54,55
“Historical case studies reveal that only continuous improvement of individual living conditions provide the basis for tolerant and open societies. Empirical studies for the OECD region also prove that setbacks in economic growth can lead to an increase in the number of votes for extremist and nationalistic parties.”
See Trump, Brexit and the white nationalist populist movements were all predicted well in advance..
https://www.scribd.com/document/387459134/German-Army-Peak-Oil-Study
Now are you going to bet against this study that also says when oil shortages hit it will collapse the global economy?
I wouldn’t..
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 2:50 pm
Davy
You are a tin foil hat nutter who only reads scare porn from a far right doomer click bait site..
Your vote really doesn’t matter..You will vote for whatever others around you or people you look up to vote..
You are incapable of thinking for yourself..
Cloggie on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 2:54 pm
The more countries move to the right the worse their economy is.
Its not migration causing the populist movements its the economy stupid.
These two topics are very much related. Parasites cost money, lots of money.
A Dutch professional economist Pieter Lakeman calculated in ca. 2000 that the average Dutch wage slave had to work 1 month of the year to pay for the cost of the gate crashers (crime, handouts, judiciary):
https://www.bol.com/nl/p/binnen-zonder-kloppen-de-nede/666846447/
(“Entering without knocking”).
Today is must be even worse.
2 million darkies on 15 million whites, a large part on social security, the only reason why they are here in the first place, courtesy these f* US oligarchs who rule us since 1945.
But these days are ending. The empire is toast and will be destroyed because of CW2 and everybody outside the US is meanwhile hostile towards the US. You have made too many enemies, mate.
Your done when the oil shortage hits..Simple as that..Don’t worry we will pick any crumbs that are left from the fallout like after WW2..
Peak oil now is fake. This time the tables are turned. Now you are at the receiving end of the wrath of Eurasia.
I AM THE MOB on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 3:23 pm
Clogg
That is BS and you know it..Your problems are due to the end of cheap fossil fuels and net energy declining..You just can’t handle the truth and you want a scapegoat..
Immigrants keep your inflation low because they will work for cheap..And your GDP has been contracting ever since the 1970’s..
And peak oil is not fake
IEA Chief warns of world oil shortages by 2020 as discoveries fall to record lows
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iea-says-global-oil-discoveries-at-record-low-in-2016-1493244000
Saudi Arabia’s Energy Minister Warns of World Oil Shortages Ahead
https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790
There will be an oil shortage in the 2020’s, Goldman Sachs says
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/09/goldman-sachs-there-will-be-an-oil-shortage-in-the-2020s.html
Wood Mackenzie warns of oil and gas supply crunch
https://www.ft.com/content/a1eb0e58-d7a4-11e8-ab8e-6be0dcf18713
Cloggie on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 3:27 pm
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/the-second-us-civil-war/news-story/ec43b36de5f5f9f11e478a8fc71ea2dc
“The Second US Civil War”
The scenario is scarily believable: It’s November 2020. President Trump has just lost the election. He blames voter fraud. He blames ‘deep state’ interference. He blames illegal immigrants. He refuses to step down. Riots and demonstrations erupt across the divided United States …
FAR fetched?
The sabre-rattling is getting louder. Governors. Judges. Preachers. Politicians. All are ramping-up the rhetoric, pushing the deep political divide within the United States towards a second Civil War.
It’s coming. It’s not just revanchist Europeans saying it, but even US-friendly Australians.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/04/the-american-civil-war-didnt-end-and-trump-is-a-confederate-president
The jewish author is gloating that white America will be in the minority anyway soon.
She can’t imagine that the whites will try to break away and that they will get the support from entire Eurasia.
Cloggie on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 4:02 pm
Uh-oh. mobster is not going to like this!
Chris Hedges on the collapse of the US empire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPk9HSLagVg
“America, the farewell tour”
(His book)
Antius on Tue, 29th Jan 2019 4:13 pm
“Peak oil now is fake. This time the tables are turned. Now you are at the receiving end of the wrath of Eurasia.”
Cloggie, Just yesterday I showed that global oil and gas CAPEX is 4-5 times what it was in the late 1990s. And yet, we aren’t getting much more oil than we did at the turn of the century. This doesn’t really fit your assertion that geological oil production constraints are fake. Maybe you missed it.