[Chichis]

The Conspiracy Theorists think it ISN'T real and that there is a conspiracy to make people believe it.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel ... entid=2170

Basically an abiotic oil argument, except it comes from the angle of attacking biological=>oil conversation instead of trying to prove that abiotic oil works.


It's interesting to note the nature of conspiracy theories. They seem to be more about what people want to believe than what is the "crazier" outcome. A world where Peak Oil is a conspiracy theory is far more MUNDANE than the real world we live in. Normally, in the conspiracy theory "stories", the whole backend of the conspiracy is much "larger" than the event in itself with multinational corporations or government etc conspiring. Examples are faked moon landing, no Holocaust, etc. Peak Oil seems to be the reverse of the norm, where the reality of the situation is "bigger" than the conspiracy theory version.

[holmes]

wow i have learned alot on this site about conspiracy stuff. I never knew it was so huge. Overpopulation brings alot of strange stuff out tinto the world.

[katkinkate]

Actually Peak Oil would fit in as a conspiracy theory from their point of view. Aren't most conspiracy theories about how the governments, big business, bankers, the 'New World Order', etc. are acting behind the scenes to take away liberty and prosperity from the 'little people'? Peak Oil could easily be interpreted as an attempt to restrict movement, fleece more money and gain more control over the world for their nefarious purposes.

Pity it's not.

[PhilBiker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chichis', 'T')he Conspiracy Theorists think it ISN'T real and that there is a conspiracy to make people believe it.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

All that shows is a complete misunderstanding of how oil is formed and natural processes.

At least most Con-theories are actually possible.

[some_guy282]

Yeah, I particularly like it when people look at Peak Oil, and say it's all just a conspiracy for the oil companies to drive up the prices and increase profits. Total lack of understanding of Peak Oil. Eventually the prices get so high that even the oil companies lose profits because no one can afford to buy.

Then of course there are the theorists who say Peak Oil is being faked, and that we will see oil shortages that are artificial, and all part of a plan for the New World Order to take power. Those theorists say that we invaded Iraq, and will invade others not to get their oil, but to prevent their oil from reaching the market.

Yeah, right.

Hypothetically the second theory could be true, but I HIGHLY doubt it. First of all, every single scientist and pundit who believes in Peak Oil would have to be in on it. Simmons, Deffeyes, Kunstler, Ruppert, Campbell, etc. Second, we would have to invade a hell of a lot of countries other than Iraq in order to induce the kinds of artificial shortages needed to induce chaos. Or, the leaders of all the oil producing nations would have to be in on it too. I'm usually not one to discount conspriacy theories because "too many people would have to be in on it," but this one definitely falls into that category.

Besides, we've seen the peak oil phenomina take place for decades across many many different individual fields and nations. I wonder how these theorists would respond to that? Does the plan stretch back that far? Is east Texas still swimming in oil? Has the NWO made sure there have been artificial peaks of individual fields for more than a hundred years? Like I said, I don't discount all conspiracy theories, I fully believe some of them. But I can't believe for a second they've been planning this for a hundred plus years.

And even if Peak Oil weren't real, that still wouldn't comfort me. Exponential growth is the real problem. We'd hit Peak Something Else eventually.

The otherwise intelligent people who believe Peak Oil is a conspiracy of the NWO are just as addicted to our current lifestyle as the rest of the ignorant masses.

[OilyMon]

I'm not sure I'd classify peak oil as a consipracy theroy. I think it's more of a doomsday theory. There's a subtle difference.

[some_guy282]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilyMon', 'I')'m not sure I'd classify peak oil as a consipracy theroy. I think it's more of a doomsday theory. There's a subtle difference.

[2007]

another aspect: the debunk comes from gasresources.net - of all a site that publishes M. Lynch's articles. Talking about 'debunking'!

http://www.gasresources.net/toc_PetEcon.htm

[OilsNotWell]

I thought this thread would be filled with funny one-liners in answer to the posed topic....

Back on point:

You know PO is real when:

-When SA claims it has 461 Billion barrels in reserves

-When Fed Chairman Greenspan replies, in his particularly obfuscatious way, to answer a question about the recent $105 Barrel price of oil: "Thus far, no adverse effects upon the economy have been quantified...", at which point the interviewer laughs so hard milk comes out her nose....