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Why is there no looting in Japan?

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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby jimmyz » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 16:12:49

still doesn't answer it and if you can't read my question don't answer it. The questions was why it was all about race? could easily just left it at people looting and people shooting each other. I know damn well it wasn't just blacks looting and just whites shooting blacks. I am white if it matters and the 2 of you answering are not even the OP
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 16:16:31

Don't know, never been down there and ain't planning on going soon. The further away from the South - the better. :)
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby americandream » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 16:34:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'D')on't know, never been down there and ain't planning on going soon. The further away from the South - the better. :)


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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby timmac » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 16:51:30

My take on why so many loot here in America during times of crises is because of the attitude that has been created by the [socialist] welfare system, so many people that are 2 and 3 generations on welfare and the attitude of I will just take it when SHTF instead of helping each other.

You don't seem to here about the looting problems from earthquake in San Francisco in 1906 or when you look at the pictures of the depression during the 30's people are standing in lines properly waiting for there hand outs, when the dust bowl hit did folks just stay in place and wait for the government, No they packed up and moved to California to start over, however today the attitude with many is the government should save us and give us a home.

This also brings me to the FEMA Trailers, that was a great gift giving by tax payers and what did those folks do, COMPLAIN, next time we should only give them tents..

[ and by the way I own a Motorhome and those RV's are great temporary houses, I would have never complained ]
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 17:04:09

How about these ppl NOT having any upbringing, no close family ties, no sense of community or faith. :idea:
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby americandream » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 17:13:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'M')y take on why so many loot here in America during times of crises is because of the attitude that has been created by the [socialist] welfare system, so many people that are 2 and 3 generations on welfare and the attitude of I will just take it when SHTF instead of helping each other.

You don't seem to here about the looting problems from earthquake in San Francisco in 1906 or when you look at the pictures of the depression during the 30's people are standing in lines properly waiting for there hand outs, when the dust bowl hit did folks just stay in place and wait for the government, No they packed up and moved to California to start over, however today the attitude with many is the government should save us and give us a home.

This also brings me to the FEMA Trailers, that was a great gift giving by tax payers and what did those folks do, COMPLAIN, next time we should only give them tents..

[ and by the way I own a Motorhome and those RV's are great temporary houses, I would have never complained ]


Thats the entitlement culture that sees such values as "the American way of life is non-negotiable" being played out at every level. Exceptionalism is a disease that attacks at many levels.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Loki » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 17:43:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', ' ')You won't see that here in America where there is no culture. It is all about the individual accumulating personal wealth and only bad things happen when you get caught.

What a foolish thing to say. It is an impossibility for a society to have "no culture." Ridiculous knee-jerk self-loathing anti-Americanism. As for the last sentence, I leave my home and truck unlocked, never had an issue---everyone around here leaves their homes and vehicles unlocked. Shoot, even when I lived in the city I had no problems with theft---accidentally left my apartment door wide open all day once, nothing happened.

As for the OP, culture and race are intertwined to such an extent that it's nearly impossible to isolate them. The subculture of certain segments of US society encourage the mindset that results in looting when they get the chance. One of these segments (poor blacks) is well represented in New Orleans, which has a high general crime rate, particularly murder (7.54 times national average).

Certainly not all of US society is prone to such criminality, however. How much looting was there when there were those big floods in the Midwest a few years back? None.

As for the Japanese, CNN has a decent write up on the lack of looting, though they repeat some of the simple-minded, counterfactual leftist nonsense that Novus did in his post above regarding Americans' alleged hyperindividualism:
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')“Looting simply does not take place in Japan. I’m not even sure if there’s a word for it that is as clear in its implications as when we hear ‘looting,’" said Gregory Pflugfelder, director of the Donald Keene Center of Japanese Culture at Columbia University.

Japanese have “a sense of being first and foremost responsible to the community,” he said.

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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 18:15:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'M')y take on why so many loot here in America during times of crises is because of the attitude that has been created by the [socialist] welfare system, so many people that are 2 and 3 generations on welfare and the attitude of I will just take it when SHTF instead of helping each other.

You don't seem to here about the looting problems from earthquake in San Francisco in 1906 or when you look at the pictures of the depression during the 30's people are standing in lines properly waiting for there hand outs, when the dust bowl hit did folks just stay in place and wait for the government, No they packed up and moved to California to start over, however today the attitude with many is the government should save us and give us a home.

This also brings me to the FEMA Trailers, that was a great gift giving by tax payers and what did those folks do, COMPLAIN, next time we should only give them tents..

[ and by the way I own a Motorhome and those RV's are great temporary houses, I would have never complained ]


Is taht what they teach in church these day's?
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby rangerone314 » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 19:40:18

Without resentful racial minorities, Japan has skipped the race to the bottom in terms of rudeness and civil behavior that "diversity" brings.
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Novus » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 19:42:26

Stop race baiting Loki. America has no culture, this is FACT. In fact it is an anti culture that looks to destroy and pave over anything that is not hugely profitable.

Watch this even if you can. This act of vandalism was not done by a sub-culture of minority boogie men but by corporatist anti-culturalist goons. This is just one example among tens of thousands of the anti-culturalist plague that has been going on in America for a long time. We don't need earth quakes, and Tsunamis, or nuclear disasters to leave the country in ruins. We are our own worst enemy here. We live in a disposable society and karma is going to catch up to us pretty soon.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Oakley » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 19:55:20

I don't know if this is an explanation or an observation; when you have a society where those in power consistently rig the economy to loot (plunder and control) the majority, this sets the moral tone. Those in power loot us via the laws, so when the laws breakdown, the majority follow the established cultural value and resort to looting too.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby timmac » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 21:30:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'H')ow about these ppl NOT having any upbringing, no close family ties, no sense of community or faith. :idea:


What about them?, are we suppose to give them homes and free food as well,
besides we gave them a lot over the years and what did we get in return was a slap in the face with disrespect.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Vogelzang » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 21:34:35

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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 21:35:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jimmyz', 's')till doesn't answer it and if you can't read my question don't answer it. The questions was why it was all about race? could easily just left it at people looting and people shooting each other. I know damn well it wasn't just blacks looting and just whites shooting blacks. I am white if it matters and the 2 of you answering are not even the OP

Well, as far as I know people are only getting found guilty and sentenced for randomly shooting blacks and covering it up. At least 4 cops are going to prison.

And it sure isn't because blacks control the legal system down there!

The other point about looting - I remember a newspaper got criticized for showing whites "foraging for food" and blacks "looting."

So yes, both blacks and whites "looted" but the only people that shot randomly and did race motivated thrill killings were white.
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby timmac » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 21:39:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')Is taht what they teach in church these day's?


Actually your question needs to be directed at those that loot and take.

The Church was there at Katerina and other disasters giving and giving, my personal beef is that we have done enough for certain people in this nation and they only bite the hand that feeds them, now its time to send them on there own, next major disaster is to rescue and help but when it comes to housing hand them a tent.
You don't want me to get started with repeat criminal offenders, I don't wish to be Flamed by the Liberals around here..
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Thu 17 Mar 2011, 22:15:55

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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Oneaboveall » Fri 18 Mar 2011, 02:06:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'S')top race baiting Loki. America has no culture, this is FACT. In fact it is an anti culture that looks to destroy and pave over anything that is not hugely profitable.

Watch this even if you can. This act of vandalism was not done by a sub-culture of minority boogie men but by corporatist anti-culturalist goons. This is just one example among tens of thousands of the anti-culturalist plague that has been going on in America for a long time. We don't need earth quakes, and Tsunamis, or nuclear disasters to leave the country in ruins. We are our own worst enemy here. We live in a disposable society and karma is going to catch up to us pretty soon.

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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 18 Mar 2011, 02:50:09

There is no looting in Japan because the people there are Japanese.

It is shameful to loot, and they won't bring shame on themselves and their families. 8)
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Re: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Unread postby Mudpuppy » Fri 18 Mar 2011, 03:15:58

I have lived in Japan for the last seven years. I used to ask why there was so little theft crimes in Japan and the answer I got was "it is hard enough to convince pople here to accept free second hand goods let alone have them break the law to get them".

There is a lot of truth in that. Second hand stores are all over the country here, but most people seem to be sellers and only a small portion of the population are buyers from such places (with the exception of second hand book shops which are very popular). I lived in the country side for a few years here and the people selling to the second hand stores there were Japanese and the people buying from the stores were foreign (Chinese, Korean, Brazilian, etc).

The group concept of doiing best for the group as opposed to the individual concept of personal achievement is pushed at every level in school and society and after a while it becomes second nature. I think my own thinking has also changed as a result over the last seven years without realising it until now. Don`t get me wrong, there are many times when this type of cultural attitude drives me nuts (like trying to get straight answers out of a person, or getting people to make decisions. And lack of independent thinking is a problem that the education system is having to deal with and has no answers to as of yet). But in times of crisis it is a god send.

In general if a nation prides itself on any type of personaility trait then after a while that becomes self fullfilling.
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