[jasonraymondson]

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at us when we tried to unite to not buy gas for a day because they knew we wouldn't continue to 'hurt' ourselves by continuing it any longer.
Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea, and this idea make much more sense than the 'don't buy gas on a certain day' campaign that was going around last April or May!
It's worth your consideration.


The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT HURTING OURSELVES.
How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas.
But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.
Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.
If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

[alecifel]

That sounds very clever and millions of middle school students would fall for it.

It would work for about a day, that is until all the Conoco, Shell and Valero stations are pumped dry. Then, if you want gas it's Exxon/Mobil or walk. Now if you throw some carpooling into the mix, you may be able to pull it off. But what you're really talking about when you do that is demand destruction, using less gas. You don't have to boycott Exxon to bring the price down with demand destruction.

Not to mention this is a feat of organization that could only be pulled off in a command economy, and command economies don't have private oil companies.

The only answer is to use less product.

[BigTex]

That's pretty discouraging that ANYONE would react that way to high prices.

That would be sort of like going on a hunger strike to protest high food prices (actually, that would probably work better because if enough people did it demand actually would decline, along with prices).

But then again, smart people in the past have put in price controls imagining that they would work.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')The one peak oil group.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2338178669
(Total Members = 2,625) or less than 1% of the group for retards.

[alecifel]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut then again, smart people in the past have put in price controls imagining that they would work.

[Ainan]

I love the overinflated sense of entitlement. Also i thought EXXON and MOBIL were one and the same company... not the two biggest company's. Well I'm sure these kids will do well, EXXON and MOBIL are sure to give in to their demands and price at $2, i mean they make this stuff for free and make money selling it right?

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at us when we tried to unite to not buy gas for a day because they knew we wouldn't continue to 'hurt' ourselves by continuing it any longer.
Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea, and this idea make much more sense than the 'don't buy gas on a certain day' campaign that was going around last April or May!
It's worth your consideration.


The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT HURTING OURSELVES.
How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas.
But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.
Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.
If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

[sittinguy]

My favorite gas station has 110 octane race fuel at the pump for over $7 a gallon, The airboaters LOVE the stuff. I pull up on my bike to get some and the last purchase will be showing, and they spend ALOT to fill up and they don't give a fuck what price it is. $4 a gallon isn't enough yet to get anything like this to work yet. When it hits $6 then lets talk. I filled up my Carmy today $53, it sucks but whatever, bring on the dooooom

[alecifel]

That's exactly it, sittinguy... the high prices are a problem in places like.. I dunno, HAITI, where 80% of the people make $2 a day, and it causes the cost of their food to go from $1 to $1.50 a day. But when my fuel bill goes from $10 to $15 a day, it's not really a big deal set against daily earnings of $136. If it goes to $20 or even $30, it still leaves plenty for other things (not as much as I'd like, but that's how the cookie crumbles.) Likewise for people with boats, factory stocks or ATV's that they like to run.

There is nothing inherently wrong with gas powered toys. What the world has is a population problem. The answer from the left wing is "reduce consumption" which I agree, there's a lot of room for improvement. But asking people to give up on pursuit of a quality of life that actually makes it worth living, so the Third World can keep screwing all day long and cranking out 7 children to a family with their hands stuck out for food aid, is not rational.

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alecifel', 'T')hat's exactly it, sittinguy... the high prices are a problem in places like.. I dunno, HAITI, where 80% of the people make $2 a day, and it causes the cost of their food to go from $1 to $1.50 a day. But when my fuel bill goes from $10 to $15 a day, it's not really a big deal set against daily earnings of $136. If it goes to $20 or even $30, it still leaves plenty for other things (not as much as I'd like, but that's how the cookie crumbles.) Likewise for people with boats, factory stocks or ATV's that they like to run.

There is nothing inherently wrong with gas powered toys. What the world has is a population problem. The answer from the left wing is "reduce consumption" which I agree, there's a lot of room for improvement. But asking people to give up on pursuit of a quality of life that actually makes it worth living, so the Third World can keep screwing all day long and cranking out 7 children to a family with their hands stuck out for food aid, is not rational.

[alecifel]

While I don't admire or feel good about the war, or any of its handmaidens (and actually do give a shit about people of all types) I can't help but acknowledge that it is a far more merciful alternative to allowing them to starve.

Whatever form the so-called "dieoff" may come in, is there really a nice way to go about it? Educating women and lowering fertility rates is a great thing and efforts need to stay up in those departments, but what about the short term? If population growth could be curbed tomorrow at a pretty good negative number, say -1.5% per year, you're still looking at nearly 50 years to get back down to 3.5 billion people.

This is probably a subject for another thread, no doubt it would be a fiery one.