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Why I dropped out of university.

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Re: Why I dropped out of university.

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Mon 09 Mar 2015, 16:26:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KaiserJeep', '
')Everybody gets tired of school, what is happening now is a test of character.

Great point.

I see ONE big difference between the younger people today and those of my teenage years (roughly 40 years ago) and it is primarily NOT the fault of the young people.

"Character", work ethic, etc. is largely TAUGHT. Unless, like today, it generally isn't since that would be "unfair" or "mean" or "my child is special", etc. etc.

So (not generalizing) today, I really have to look if I want the lawn mowed or the walk shoveled, etc. when my joints say "If you do that today -- I'll hurt ya PLENTY". Because -- I NEVER see kids doing such work, and I NEVER NEVER see kids actively looking for such work.

This is a major departure from my generation, and I think it's a big mistake.

By the time I went to college, I had 5 years of mowing, raking, shoveling, odd jobs like gardening, hauling, etc. in before I was old enough (16) for the vast majority of retail places to hire me in a W-2 formal year-round capacity, even part time. Then I got two years of "sh*t up to my elbows" working in an all-you-can-eat joint bussing tables and doing dishes, etc.

So, I went to college with a (virtual) hatchet in my hand and knife between my teeth, ready to out compete everyone else to make DAMN sure I could sit at a desk and work with my mind at a high paying job instead of having to do low paying, nasty, BORING physical labor all my life. And every time I got bored or tired of it -- I just remembered the consequences of not finishing, and it was NO PROBLEMO, and I got back to work.

Unless I'm missing something, I believe a huge proportion of modern youngsters lack this simple real world experiential motivation -- and I think it is a great disservice to them.

This also fits in with people like my nieces which I tried to motivate when they were considering college. "Well, do you want the option of working in a comfortable office doing relatively interesting work and making, say, $50 an hour when you're middle aged, or do you want to work at Walmart or say 'Do you want fries with that' all day long on your feet, and make, say $10 an hour IF YOU'RE LUCKY in middle age? That, in a nutshell, is the reason to go to college and get a job-oriented degree", I explained.

Well, one out of two listened. Better than batting .000 I guess.

I don't think you're likely to get character from a book. I got some "aha" kick in the ass from some books that gelled some of the teachings of value and character I got from my parents.

Maybe I'm missing something, but all my friends agree with me that kids out proactively working hard to earn that money before age 16 are as rare as hens' teeth, and that the reason cited for the kids "not wanting to work" is their parents give them large allowances.

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DesuMaiden, DON'T QUIT COLLEGE unless you'd prefer a low paying low respect low security job to a much better job. The odds are high that effort to earn a degree is mild compared to the suffering you'll inflict on yourself if you don't. Doomers have been proclaiming a big crash "real soon now" for a very long time. Assuming this is in our face as an excuse to quit is playing long odds, with big consequences when you're (most likely) wrong.

Whatever you decide -- best of luck.
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Why I dropped out of university.

Unread postby dolanbaker » Mon 09 Mar 2015, 17:08:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')et the degree. Get a good job. Get cash in the bank. Buy or build a safe refuge without debt.


Wise words.

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