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What you can do as individual to boost the GDP

Unread postby Malthus » Tue 10 May 2005, 17:33:36

Burn Your House—Boost the Economy


As recently as 50 years ago, classical economists regarded the vitality of the economy as its ability to produce things that people wanted (and presumably would pay for). Today, the economy has been redefined into something called Gross Domestic Product, or GDP. Some are beginning to question the efficacy of the GDP measurement, considering how important it has become for fiscal and social policy. What better way to highlight its failures than to suggest some outlandish ways that help increase the GDP?

Things Kids Can Do: Have kids themselves. Sickly ones who require constant medical attention would be best. Medical expenditures have become almost 14 percent of GDP; we need to stay on the growth curve. And when those kids become teenagers, encourage them to become juvenile delinquents. If they get arrested for some really heinous crime and go to jail for a long time, the economy gets a jolt.

Things You Can Do By Yourself: Get a divorce. Legal costs, two houses, and all the things that go with houses: furniture, kitchen supplies, appliances, are all important components of GDP. Divorces stimulate consumer demand.

Break something around the house, e.g., a window, a dish, the television. Replacing these things helps increase the GDP and creates jobs.

Smash up the car. It will have to be fixed or replaced. The automobile industry employs directly and indirectly one out of every seven workers in the United States and they need the overtime. But, for really great results, burn down the house! Don’t worry, insurance will pay for it, and the rebuilding will keep a lot of people busy for at least a while.

Quit your job as a scientist and become a taxicab driver. Research and development is not included in the GDP, but money spent on taxicabs is.

Don’t exercise, don’t brush your teeth. Overeat, do drugs, smoke, drink, and make yourself terribly sick. See if you can get your family members to do the same. The more you spend on medical care, the higher the GDP.

Hire help to take care of the kids and force your wife to get a job. This gives the economy a double boost because: (1) if your wife takes care of kids and does housework, it is not counted in the GDP because she’s not paid, but help hired to do that work is counted in the GDP; and (2) if your wife goes to work outside the home, that counts toward the GDP, too!

Hire a lawyer and sue somebody. (Lawyers’ fees are directly added to GDP.)

Things You Can Do with Your Neighbors: Riot and burn the neighborhood. Rebuilding puts people to work and is very beneficial to the GDP.

Form a gang. Commit crimes with a view to getting caught. The more people in jail, especially folks who would not otherwise have jobs, the better off the economy. Today, building and managing jails has become one of the hot “growth” industries, to say nothing of the security business.

Things Businesses Can Do: Pollute the environment—a giant oil spill would be great! Superfund sites are very desirable for expanding the GDP. Leverage up and build excess real estate, e.g., see-through buildings. They add to the GDP when they go up, but the waste is not subtracted when they are demolished or stand vacant. Similarly, companies can build excess plant capacity (as IBM did in the mid-to-late 1980s to the tune of $30 billion). All of this counts toward GDP. Again, when companies are “downsized,” nothing is subtracted from the GDP. It’s similar in concept to the “roach motel”: GDP counts these things going up, but not going down.

For Best Results, Organize and Get the Government Involved: Lobby your elected representatives to raise taxes and spend more money. Government spending on goods and services adds to the GDP and “creates” jobs.

Start a war. Preferably one far away where no Americans get killed. B-2 bombers, tanks, bullets . . . all count in the GDP. Also, send Stinger missiles to liberation armies in countries around the world, such as Afghanistan. Maybe some of those missiles will be used to knock down airliners. Replacing them helps the economy, and if lawyers get involved, there’s a GDP bonus.

Target savers! People who save actually hurt the economy because they don’t spend. (Economists call this “The Paradox of Thrift,” as if they never heard that contradictions don’t exist.) If people spend their savings, then those purchases are added to the GDP. When they don’t spend, the economy suffers. What can be done to discourage saving? First, tax the return on savings: a higher capital gains tax would be very helpful. Second, and best, debase the currency! By printing up more and more money, we can dilute the value of people’s savings (especially their long-term savings, such as their pension funds) surreptitiously stealing their money for politicians to spend and thereby increase the GDP.

Get Mother Nature on Your Side: Hope for a natural disaster: a hurricane, an earthquake, a big fire, a flood. Disasters give the GDP a tremendous lift because of all the rebuilding that must take place.

from www.fama.org
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Unread postby nth » Tue 10 May 2005, 17:58:13

This is hilarious.

But, obviously written by non-economists.
It doesn't really fly, but it is a good laugh.

An easy way for a laymen to see it doesn't work is simply look at natural disasters and you will see GDP suffer.

Basically, fixing the problems do boost, but it is offset by losses in productivity else where.
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Unread postby Malthus » Tue 10 May 2005, 18:24:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')n easy way for a laymen to see it doesn't work is simply look at natural disasters and you will see GDP suffer.

Basically, fixing the problems do boost, but it is offset by losses in productivity else where


Not if it happens in residential areas where no productive activity is occuring. Rebuilding expenses would dwarf loss in personal consumption for years with multiplying effects on all industries. You can see the big job boost this summer after the hurricanes in florida for a few mounths. Similarly there are always economic booms after wars due to full employment necessary to rebuild the country. Lets not forget that it was after WWII that the US finally got out of the depression.
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Unread postby Malthus » Tue 10 May 2005, 18:28:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')n easy way for a laymen to see it doesn't work is simply look at natural disasters and you will see GDP suffer.

Basically, fixing the problems do boost, but it is offset by losses in productivity else where


Not if it happens in residential areas where no productive activity is occuring. Rebuilding expenses would dwarf loss in personal consumption for years with multiplying effects on all industries and rent imputations are still counted in the GDP as though the person is living in its home . You can see the big job boost this summer after the hurricanes in florida for a few mounths. Similarly there are always economic booms after wars due to full employment necessary to rebuild the country. Lets not forget that it was after WWII that the US finally got out of the depression.

When speaking about productivity do you mean the phantom hedonic adjustments practiced by the FED to understate inflation or do you mean something else.
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Unread postby nero » Tue 10 May 2005, 22:47:47

Good list, I'm curious about the scientist/taxicab one though, it doesn't square with my understanding of GDP. Surely a scientist performing R+D is producing knowledge just as much as a comedian who produces laughs.

Some additions:

Litter, and never ever pick up after yourself, that's someone else's job.

Drive faster, wasting gas is good for the economy.

Instead of going out on a date, hire a prostitute (at least in Canada where prostitution is legal)

Stop at the drive through on the way home and pick up supper. Not only are you supporting your local McDonalds "manufacturer" but you are also well on your way to supporting your local hospital.
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Unread postby BigBear » Tue 10 May 2005, 23:39:51

When did prostitution become Legal in Canada--sorry--only in your dreams young fella'---talk of it--hasn't happened--Just like Pot--talking about it---but just talk so far !!!
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Unread postby nero » Wed 11 May 2005, 00:59:55

Biofuels: The "What else we got to burn?" answer to peak oil.
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Unread postby Mercani » Wed 11 May 2005, 03:45:33

So GDP clearly doesn't take into account the well being of people.

Could we come up with a better measure? That's the real challenge.
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Unread postby nth » Wed 11 May 2005, 13:05:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Malthus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')n easy way for a laymen to see it doesn't work is simply look at natural disasters and you will see GDP suffer.

Basically, fixing the problems do boost, but it is offset by losses in productivity else where


Not if it happens in residential areas where no productive activity is occuring. Rebuilding expenses would dwarf loss in personal consumption for years with multiplying effects on all industries and rent imputations are still counted in the GDP as though the person is living in its home . You can see the big job boost this summer after the hurricanes in florida for a few mounths. Similarly there are always economic booms after wars due to full employment necessary to rebuild the country. Lets not forget that it was after WWII that the US finally got out of the depression.

When speaking about productivity do you mean the phantom hedonic adjustments practiced by the FED to understate inflation or do you mean something else.


Florida economy suffers if you take out the out of state influx of capital. That capital is better invested in other places than to rebuilt.
The local economy suffered quite a bit. It is still recovering today.

Hrm... I hope I didn't say that wars are bad for economy. Wars as long as you don't get hit are very good for economy. US ww2 is perfect example. Plenty of jobs and rationing causes huge savings that gets unleash after ww2. It is the jobs of war and savings spending that got the country out of depression.

Look at Europe, it required lots of money from US to rebuilt it to get its economy back up.

What is good for economy is increasing productivity where you generate more goods than before. Often destruction of property increases production to rebuilt, but it takes away capital that can be used to give more returns.

Of course, if there are no better investment than rebuilding, then in that scenario disaster is good.

Definitely not the case for Florida.
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