[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', ' ')Trouble is, most skills mentioned above kids today generally dont want to do. They want the "Flash" jobs - they will be the first to go.

[biofuel13]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 'e')very town will need a guy who can ring a bell and push a heavy cart while yelling "Bring out your dead."

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True Grit

[Daniel_Plainview]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 'e')very town will need a guy who can ring a bell and push a heavy cart while yelling "Bring out your dead."

[mmasters]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('benzoil', 'I')n a nutshell:
Adaptability.
Ingenuity.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'M')ontequest,
I scanned the link on your post for the first time, and found a lot of great info. I will pursue it.

I think the inference is to get locally active to make some changes happen. Point well taken.

What I was referring to is the resistance of politically entrenched oil interests, and the difficulty of meeting that in their own arena. That is a worthy task for those capable of it, but I'm not one of them, and I have my doubts about the ability of the young to do much in the nation's capitol.

I do think that change must come from individual efforts, be that in leadership, or personal changes in lifestyle. Is that where you were pointing?

[patience]

MonteQuest,

Duh! (slaps forehead). Yeah. That's funny.

Patience, yes, diligence, perseverance, all that.

[Jenab6]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'S')kills in security will be much in demand soon.

[Serial_Worrier]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'S')kills in security will be much in demand soon

[joelcolorado]

Medical, gardening, animal husbandry, midwife, train operator engineer etc. , police, teachers

[PeakOiler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('biofuel13', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 'e')very town will need a guy who can ring a bell and push a heavy cart while yelling "Bring out your dead."

[medicvet]

Bring out yer dead?

"oh stop that, yer not fooling anyone you know!"

heh.

seriously tho, there is some kind of irony working here when the thing I am most skilled at is the thing that I have ptsd from..

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 'e')very town will need a guy who can ring a bell and push a heavy cart while yelling "Bring out your dead."

[Jotapay]

I think as long as there is electricity, there will be jobs in IT. The government and corporations love their data and computers. Until the very end, there will be at least some IT jobs.

Amazingly, I'm still getting weekly calls from recruiters who are looking for skilled IT people. I got a call yesterday for an IT Specialist/Business Analyst at a vendor for retail/production corporations. They needed all sorts of experience from SAP, database administration, data mining, applications coding, web servers, web applications, reporting solutions, etc., which I know all about. They said it was paying around $100K/year, a figure at which I was surprised. Most open IT jobs aren't paying that much at the moment.

I'm not going to take it because my corporation seems to have decided to retain me through this current round of layoffs we are experiencing. I'd rather stay put since they seem to value me, than move to a new, unknown situation.

I hate to say it, but one thing I've been seriously looking at are the Information Technology Warfare jobs the DoD has been listing lately. That is really intriguing.

[Ainan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'I') think as long as there is electricity, there will be jobs in IT. The government and corporations love their data and computers. Until the very end, there will be at least some IT jobs.

Amazingly, I'm still getting weekly calls from recruiters who are looking for skilled IT people. I got a call yesterday for an IT Specialist/Business Analyst at a vendor for retail/production corporations. They needed all sorts of experience from SAP, database administration, data mining, applications coding, web servers, web applications, reporting solutions, etc., which I know all about. They said it was paying around $100K/year, a figure at which I was surprised. Most open IT jobs aren't paying that much at the moment.

I'm not going to take it because my corporation seems to have decided to retain me through this current round of layoffs we are experiencing. I'd rather stay put since they seem to value me, than move to a new, unknown situation.

I hate to say it, but one thing I've been seriously looking at are the Information Technology Warfare jobs the DoD has been listing lately. That is really intriguing.

[Jotapay]

I responded quickly there. I'll answer in more detail here.

If you want to stay in IT, I would try at all costs to get hired with a large corporation that has New World Order ties. These corporations are the ones which will be protected and propped up at all costs as the economy collapses. GE, Sony, Google, Microsoft, IBM, Siemens, Samsung, Mitsubishi, Fujitsu, AT&T, Verizon, TimeWarner, Exxon, Shell, British Petroleum, defense contractors, federal or state government all come to mind. These entities will still continue to exist to some extent unless a nuclear war destroys everything. The people who run these companies and governments will still need to keep track of everything with computers, as long as there is electricity. They may downsize, but they will always exist as long as there is functioning society.

Get your foot in the door. Learn as much as you can about how to do as much as possible. Learn everything. Databases (SQL Server/Oracle/Informix/DB2/MySQL), web programming (JavaScript/ASP/ASP.NET/PHP/JSP), system design (pros-cons to different platforms/technologies/techniques), application coding (.NET/Java/C++), Reporting tools are good too (SQL Server Reporting Services/Crystal Reports). SAP and Analysis Services cubes are good things to know about as well.

It is imperative to be very aggressive. Get your foot in the door somewhere. Work in different departments, getting transferred when you have learned as much as possible in one location. Learn everything you can. Volunteer for special projects which offer a new opportunity.

I first worked with UNIX-based databases. So that gave me the opportunity to learn UNIX and databases. Then I switched over to a web-based applications development team. So I learned all about web programming and object oriented applications development. I was busy at home experimenting with Linux and different networking applications during this time. Now I'm a team lead of four other developers and my title literally is "Team Lead/Web Applications Developer/Database Administrator/Web Server Administrator". There isn't much I can't do for a corporation/company as far as their programming needs go, except for networking. I'm not a cable/router monkey.

If you want to stay in IT, get very aggressive and become very good at what you do. I think we will have our jobs for a few more years yet.

If I had it all to do over again, I might have gone into medicine or pursued being a blacksmith/machinist. But I can pick those skills up on the side in my own time.

[obixman]

Brewing.

Wine making secondarily (simply because alchohol is always desired, distilling is a bit complicated, and beer first because you can make it from anything, buit wine requires grapes and takes longer...)

[Munqi]

I would say a job in the alternative energy industry would be a pretty safe bet. Fixing windmills or something.

[dohboi]

In the north, working in insulation. Lots of it will be needed if/when heating oil become unaffordable/unavailable.

[3aidlillahi]

Has shooting been mentioned yet? You'll always need protection. Better that you're able to provide it for yourself and others around you than you requiring protection from outside your domain.

Maybe not soon. Depends upon where you live, I guess.