[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')It's not like there's a bunch of wealthy guys out there setting up ecovillages for homeless unemployed people.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')Perhaps that is because left -wingers think that government is benevelent and exists to help them and can even be effecent at delivering goods and services to the governed.
Right wingers see government as always being ineffecent, often corrupt and occasionaly evil.
The liberal can't imagine ever wanting to defend himself from an agent of the government while the conservitive thinks that the guns in private hands are the last line of defence against government gone wrong and that it will eventually go wrong for sure.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')It's not like there's a bunch of wealthy guys out there setting up ecovillages for homeless unemployed people.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')Perhaps that is because left -wingers think that government is benevelent and exists to help them and can even be effecent at delivering goods and services to the governed.
Right wingers see government as always being ineffecent, often corrupt and occasionaly evil.
The liberal can't imagine ever wanting to defend himself from an agent of the government while the conservitive thinks that the guns in private hands are the last line of defence against government gone wrong and that it will eventually go wrong for sure.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')Do you have a more plausible explanation of why liberals are not afraid of gun confiscation?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')It's my experience that it is seldom just a matter of luck. People are most often homeless because they are unemployable due to their own stupidity, laziness, drug use, and alcoholism.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')It's my experience that it is seldom just a matter of luck. People are most often homeless because they are unemployable due to their own stupidity, laziness, drug use, and alcoholism.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Someone who is a drug addict or an alchoholic doesn't stop being a drug addict or an alchoholic just because you have hope they will stop.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')It's my experience that it is seldom just a matter of luck. People are most often homeless because they are unemployable due to their own stupidity, laziness, drug use, and alcoholism.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')
It's hard for me to imagine that most of the folks in the tent cities have just in the past year or two suddenly become stupid, alcoholic, lazy drug addicts.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE52J0FK20090320

[PrestonSturges]

It just pisses me off that I could have been abusing drugs and alcohol all these years and had the same outcome.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I')t just pisses me off that I could have been abusing drugs and alcohol all these years and had the same outcome.

[Ludi]

It's never too late to party!

[Timo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I')t just pisses me off that I could have been abusing drugs and alcohol all these years and had the same outcome.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Timo', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I')t just pisses me off that I could have been abusing drugs and alcohol all these years and had the same outcome.

[Kristen]

I'm a left wing gun owner. There is a certain valuable knowledge in how to operate the beast. Most left wingers are portrayed against it because of it being immoral and a cause of violence, but that isn't necessarily the case.

Usually the word gun induces a depiction of a violent act (i.e. shooting someone) instead of food. The best thing that could happen would be if people were capable of a different sort of viewpoint. This viewpoint would consist of people not always defining themselves and others by social strata. To embrace simpler experiences and be happy with oneself would produce a greater cooperation then imaginable! As a libertarian (an anthropocentric individualist one) I hope for compromise in our future and an agreement with all living minds

[Newfie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristen', 'I')'m a left wing gun owner.

[Shar_Lamagne]

Mos is correct. If not for the policies that have been pursued, these people would not have been put been this situation in the first place.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ociety, however, cannot subsist among those who are at all times ready to hurt and injure one another. The moment that injury begins, the moment that mutual resentment and animosity take place, all the bands of it are broke asunder, and the different members of which it consisted are, as it were, dissipated and scattered abroad by the violence and opposition of their discordant affections. If there is any society among robbers and murderers, they must at least, according to the trite observation, abstain from robbing and murdering one another. Beneficence, therefore, is less essential to the existence of society than justice. Society may subsist, though not in the most comfortable state, without beneficence; but the prevalence of injustice must utterly destroy it. (TMS II.ii.3.3)

What chiefly enrages us against the man who injures or insults us, is the little account which he seems to make of us, the unreasonable preference which he gives to himself above us, and that absurd self-love, by which he seems to imagine, that other people may be sacrificed at any time, to his conveniency or his humour. The glaring impropriety of this conduct, the gross insolence and injustice which it seems to involve in it, often shock and exasperate us more than all the mischief which we have suffered. To bring him back to a more just sense of what is due to other people, to make him sensible of what he owes us, and of the wrong that he has done to us, is frequently the principal end proposed in our revenge, which is always imperfect when it cannot accomplish this.(TMS II.iii.1.5)

No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable. It is but equity, besides, that they who feed, cloath and lodge the whole body of the people, should have such a share of the produce of their own labour as to be themselves tolerably well fed, cloathed and lodged. (WN I.viii.36).

An educated populace can, to a degree, regulate political actors who may wish to take advantage of inequalities for their own benefit. The uneducated are easily misled and suffer for it. The more the ‘inferior ranks of people’ are instructed, Smith says, the less liable they are to the delusions of enthusiasm and superstition, which among ignorant nations, frequently occasion the most dreadful disorder. An instructed and intelligent people besides are always more decent and orderly than an ignorant and stupid one. They feel themselves, each individually, more respectable, and more likely to obtain the respect of their lawful superiors, and they are therefore more disposed to respect those superiors. They are more disposed to examine, and more capable of seeing through, the interested complaints of faction and sedition, and they are, upon that account, less apt to be misled into any wanton or unnecessary opposition to the measures of government. In free countries, where the safety of government depends very much upon the favourable judgment which the people may form of its conduct, it must surely be of the highest importance that they should not be disposed to judge rashly or capriciously concerning it.(WN V.i.f.61)

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristen', 'I')'m a left wing gun owner.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '
')It's my experience that it is seldom just a matter of luck. People are most often homeless because they are unemployable due to their own stupidity, laziness, drug use, and alcoholism.