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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Sixstrings » Wed 27 Apr 2011, 19:14:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'Y')ou still believe in this crap (human evolution/ linear line from ape to modern man) ? :lol:


I assume you believe mankind arose from crystal pyramid thingies with moonbeams and skittles shining through? Or was it ancient alien astronauts?

Personally, I don't care what people believe but this is science.. kids in school need to learn the basics. This issue is settled now -- even a Tennessee jury ruled in favor of evolution all the way back in 1925 (Scopes). Darwin published "On the Origin of Species" way back in 1859.

It's 2011. Enough of the creationism, teach the kids real science.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby vision-master » Wed 27 Apr 2011, 19:22:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'Y')ou still believe in this crap (human evolution/ linear line from ape to modern man) ? :lol:


I assume you believe mankind arose from crystal pyramid thingies with moonbeams and skittles shining through? Or was it ancient alien astronauts?

Personally, I don't care what people believe but this is science.. kids in school need to learn the basics. This issue is settled now -- even a Tennessee jury ruled in favor of evolution all the way back in 1925 (Scopes). Darwin published "On the Origin of Species" way back in 1859.

It's 2011. Enough of the creationism, teach the kids real science.

(except for AGW, I don't consider that settled science yet)


lsol - science eh. If it's science it must be fact. :lol:

Darwins theory, not fact.

6, the ancient texts tell us what happened in our early day's. It's historical FACT! :razz:

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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Sixstrings » Wed 27 Apr 2011, 19:53:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '6'), the ancient texts tell us what happened in our early day's. It's historical FACT! :razz:


Well if it's on History channel it must be true:

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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Windmills » Wed 27 Apr 2011, 20:09:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('crude_intentions', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'T')heir biggest complaints about working in the school system. Were Bureaucratic Administration, Unrurly students, Parents who had to be threatened with legal action to force them to show up at a P.T meeting. And the fear of legal action from parents if they did anything to discipline the child. (Why do you think schools have zero-tolerance and call the police when a student is acting unruly)


Most of what you mention here stems from the home. That has long been my contention about the majority of the problems with schools, too, and also whey they cannot be easily fixed. The basic schoolhouse isn't fundamentally different in the US from what it once was, nor is it radically different from many other countries. What has changed dramatically is American society. The examples of how it has changed and the consequent effects on education are numerous. Ultimately, we have apathetic, narcissistic, self-centered, entitled parents and children who shirk responsibility, avoid hard work, and want something for nothing. America gets out of its schools exactly what parents and students put into them.

One of a million examples: a couple of the “Lost Boys” come to speak at our school. For many Africans like them, they believe an education is one of the most important things in life. They feel that, in a continent filled with uncertainly, education is the one thing that can't be taken away by wars and other terrible events. These young men described how they revere books and how appalled they are at how Americans are so careless with them and how our students amuse themselves by vandalizing them. Some of the Lost Boys carried books with them throughout their horrific journeys. Despite rape, starvation, mutilation, deprivation...they clung to those books. Would an American child carry a book, or would he try to carry his Xbox instead? Many American students simply don't value education as much as other countries. Kids here talk about dropping out of school where students in other countries might literally kill to have a free education like kids here get.

This country isn't going to fix much about education until it properly identifies the source of the problem: the home. One of the most elite schools in this country is a public school. You shouldn't be surprised to find out that it's in a Japanese enclave. However, the school system there isn't any more responsible for the success of those students than another school system in a more demographically typical American area is for its own students' failures. It's the parents that make education work. If the parents don't care, they raise kids that don't care.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Loki » Wed 27 Apr 2011, 21:24:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('crude_intentions', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'Y')ou can't. Government can't solve all social problems. Doesn't mean we should gut public education or subject every aspect of our lives to the free market.


Ok but at what point do you draw the line. How many times and in how many ways can government fail before you switch to A different model.

I'm open to different ways of running K-12 public education, I don't think the current model is ideal by any stretch. But public education is a varied beast, differs from school district to school district. Yet conservative ideologues talk about it as if it's a single, integrated entity.

Handing public education over to private, for-profit businesses is most certainly not the answer. It's just more Ayn Rand capitalism-as-religion radicalism. It's definitely NOT conservative, Thomas Jefferson would be appalled by this radical movement to privatize public education and turn it into some money making project.

The main problem with public education is the public. The American family has been disintegrating for decades, more rapidly among some racial groups than others. The near total absence of fathers for a good proportion of black kids, for example, has been devastating.

And it's not just black kids who suffer from the absence of fatherhood, and general good parenting, in our culture. There are a host of reasons for this, government being among the last of them. It's not within the government's power to fix this problem, but it's also not the government's fault. And spare me the welfare or divorce policy red herrings.

It's just absurdly simple-minded to blame the government for all evils in American society. This is one of the primary reasons I find the GOP and most libertarians to be so intellectually bankrupt.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 28 Apr 2011, 01:31:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')You still believe in this crap (human evolution/ linear line from ape to modern man) ? :lol:


Thank you for a perfect example of the results of a modern American public school education, with that apparently Dubya inspired sentence.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 28 Apr 2011, 08:33:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '6'), the ancient texts tell us what happened in our early day's. It's historical FACT! :razz:


Well if it's on History channel it must be true:

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HisStory channel? lsol -> Google 'Magical Egypt' and OR the 'Pyramid Code' watch the series. :)
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 28 Apr 2011, 10:21:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Outcast_Searcher', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')You still believe in this crap (human evolution/ linear line from ape to modern man) ? :lol:


Thank you for a perfect example of the results of a modern American public school education, with that apparently Dubya inspired sentence.


Huh? Since when was creationism associated with public schools? If anything it's more a function of home-schooling, which is so often religiously motivated.

You can argue that public schools don't educate enough which leads people like v-m into cults, but aside from some backwards bible-belt areas, they aren't teaching creationism.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 28 Apr 2011, 10:24:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'E')nough of the creationism, teach the kids real science.


But what shall we teach the kids about Obama's place of birth?
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 28 Apr 2011, 10:55:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou can argue that public schools don't educate enough which leads people like v-m into cults, but aside from some backwards bible-belt areas, they aren't teaching creationism.


Yer the one following this silly evolution cult. :lol: I follow neither creationism nor evolution. I just follow the facts and evidence. Can you say the same moss.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 28 Apr 2011, 12:51:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')I just follow the facts and evidence.


Coast 2 Coast AM doesn't qualify as facts and evidence.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 28 Apr 2011, 15:27:39

That's the best you can do moss? :lol:
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Loki » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 16:28:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')I just follow the facts and evidence.


Coast 2 Coast AM doesn't qualify as facts and evidence.

Please don't encourage him Mos.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 17:26:17

Anyother one that believes the human evolution myth, eh...... lsol
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 17:36:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'E')nough of the creationism, teach the kids real science.


But what shall we teach the kids about Obama's place of birth?


Mos you're getting rusty.. you should have come at me about climate change. Let my re-write your quip for you:

"But what shall we teach the kids about climate change?"

I'd be a little stumped on that one.. I keep watching the weather and checking in with you guys, but you keep saying no signs of climate change yet. I was ready to become a believer with this tornado outbreak, but you guys said it's just la nina. So we'll see. If we keep having crazy tornado outbreaks every year THEN I'll get on the AGW bandwagon. But I still won't support cap and trade.

As for Obama, he was born in Hawaii. A doctor attested to it with his signature, good enough for me, let it go Mos.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 17:42:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '[')i]The Pyramid Code is a documentary series of 5 episodes that explores the pyramid fields and ancient temples in Egypt as well as ancient megalithic sites around the world looking for clues to matriarchal consciousness, ancient knowledge and sophisticated technology in a Golden Age.


Thing is, Vision, I'm not Egyptian.. how is this relevant to me. If you're saying ancient alien astronauts founded civilization with Egypt.. that doesn't hold up, there are older civilizations.

Think of it this way.. five thousand years from now, future archeologists / conspiracy theorists will dig up Las Vegas and conclude that it surely had to be alien influenced. After all, who would build something like that in the desert? Makes no sense, must have been aliens right?

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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Oakley » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 18:17:04

If supermarkets were run like public schools, we would all be eating pablum, and suffering from nutritional diseases. Oh, wait; most people are already suffering from nutritional diseases. Does that mean that total government control has already had its influence, supporting the plunder and control system of government/corporate privilege, forcing most people into poverty where they can only afford bare subsistence; I think so.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby Lore » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 18:31:58

It's funny though how government usually becomes the supermarket of last resort.
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby vision-master » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 19:45:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '[')i]The Pyramid Code is a documentary series of 5 episodes that explores the pyramid fields and ancient temples in Egypt as well as ancient megalithic sites around the world looking for clues to matriarchal consciousness, ancient knowledge and sophisticated technology in a Golden Age.


Thing is, Vision, I'm not Egyptian.. how is this relevant to me. If you're saying ancient alien astronauts founded civilization with Egypt.. that doesn't hold up, there are older civilizations.

Think of it this way.. five thousand years from now, future archeologists / conspiracy theorists will dig up Las Vegas and conclude that it surely had to be alien influenced. After all, who would build something like that in the desert? Makes no sense, must have been aliens right?

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Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun
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Re: What If Supermarkets Were Run Like Government Schools?

Unread postby bshirt » Sun 01 May 2011, 10:35:05

I think it's a great idea!

Just imagine every supermarket run by "tenured" employees that can't be fired, laid off or transfered despite any amount of gross incompetent action. Great! Even better, our supermarkets can never go out of business, be bought out or go bankrupt. What could be better?

Lastly, they'll get paid summers off and endless "holidays" all year long. Of course, as always, everything funded by the working stiffs. Need more money annually for the enlarged HR staff, Fed govn backed retirement plans & ect? No problem.

Sounds like a winner to me!
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