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by **Specop_007** » Sun 01 May 2005, 06:32:36

Our oil supply is dwindling??
No, that cant be!

Typical response from people. I dont understand, whats so hard to grasp about this PO concept?? Is it us? Are we somehow intellectually gifted over our fellow man? I dont believe thats it, but man, sometimes I have to wonder........

by **Evltre** » Sun 01 May 2005, 06:44:20

There is a huge amount of grumbling over here about petrol prices - everyone is blaming the oil companies and producers. When I have on occasion tried to broach the idea that it might be something more deeper I get responses like "peak oil is a fallacy dreamt up by oil people who are trying to justify their price gouging"

Grrrrr

by **eastbay** » Sun 01 May 2005, 06:46:11

People generally have trouble changing a long-held belief. When a new paradigm-altering idea is dropped on them the first reaction is most often something on the order of, 'you must be nuts', or, 'I'm not even going to bother reading that nonsense'.

It takes time for some. For example, I have a brother who is a Stanford MBA, a really bright guy who has parlayed his rare gift of high intelligence into considerable wealth. He truly believes technology will find a replacement for oil... and that oil will last for generations to come.

Regarding PO, his belief is the majority opinion. Mine is the minority opinion. I'm a long veteran of holding minority opinions and beliefs...lol. But on this little issue and on all the others, I'm right.

EastBay

by **Evltre** » Sun 01 May 2005, 06:51:14

My biggest frustration is that people just don't seem to care. They can wipe it away from their minds with "*insert government/science whatever here* will come up with something"

How can you not care about something that has the potential to impact on your own personal existence in a major way - even my own "softish landing" beliefs mean potentially major implications to the way I always thought I would live.

by **Specop_007** » Sun 01 May 2005, 07:05:23

Yep, I agree with you guys.

Course, on the other hand, it makes for a damned fine excuse to buy yet another gun or case of ammo. :-D

by **skiwi** » Sun 01 May 2005, 10:35:39

My brother in law is a General Practioner and property speculator.
My sister in law is a Chemist Counsellor and Amway hustler.

I offered them both copies of End of Suburbia and Arithmetic Population and Energy.

She declined in favour of sex sin and city and the hydrogen thingie and
I eventually took them back off him several months later without him watching them.

Me, I'm just about to become a hick tamarillo grower, what would I know.

by **RonMN** » Sun 01 May 2005, 10:43:31

I found (to my surprise) that my brother understands PO entirely! He fully comprehends everything about it...but when it comes to anything bad happening his response is "We just wont let that happen" [smilie=dontknow.gif]

by **BiGG** » Sun 01 May 2005, 11:58:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'O')ur oil supply is dwindling??
No, that cant be!

Typical response from people. I dont understand, whats so hard to grasp about this PO concept?? Is it us? Are we somehow intellectually gifted over our fellow man? I dont believe thats it, but man, sometimes I have to wonder........

by **frankthetank** » Sun 01 May 2005, 12:22:25

People i come across don't ever want to hear the bad side of things. On numerous occasions ive been referred to as having a negative attitude, bad outlook on life.

I tell them i'm just telling it how i see it.

by **BiGG** » Sun 01 May 2005, 16:07:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
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name one of them there fancy pHds types if you will?

pete

by **seldom_seen** » Sun 01 May 2005, 20:28:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BiGG', '.')..PhD’s are saying available technology says we aren’t going anywhere near the Stone Age and in fact, are going in just the opposite direction instead. I’m with the latter group

by **Evltre** » Sun 01 May 2005, 21:07:34

We don't have nearly enough time to find, perfect and then roll out any kind of miracle cure or techno fix. Hubby (who also has a PhD) has been reviewing bio energy literature, both out of personal interest, and in relation to his work. It's certainly a good potential stop gap measure, in some applications - but he's pretty sure most of us will be dead (of old age) before oil, in its current capacity, is entirely replaced by alternatives.

And it’s probably not going to be any kind of smooth transition. Any kind of techno-fix will be rolled out into essential services and military and those with lots of cash before it saves the general public. However you look at it, it's going to be a change of lifestyle for 99.5% of the developed world.

by **ArimoDave** » Sun 01 May 2005, 22:15:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BiGG', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
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name one of them there fancy pHds types if you will?

pete

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