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Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby ZeroInfinity » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 18:07:55

When the PO really hits hard and we go back to the stone age and face extinction do you think it will be easier and socially acceptable to get meds or shots for voluntary euthanasia?
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 18:32:56

You joined three days ago ... can't you wait a few weeks before asking a question like that? Like anyone will care about anyone else after the peak hits lol... and they certainly won't care if you OD.
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby TheTurtle » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 18:52:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ZeroInfinity', 'W')hen the PO really hits hard and we go back to the stone age and face extinction do you think it will be easier and socially acceptable to get meds or shots for voluntary euthanasia?


If we revert to the stone age, there won't be any meds or shots available. But one can always go down to a creek and find some water hemlock, free for the taking. A couple bites of that would work better than any meds or shots. :shock:
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby ZeroInfinity » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 19:32:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'Y')ou joined three days ago ... can't you wait a few weeks before asking a question like that? Like anyone will care about anyone else after the peak hits lol... and they certainly won't care if you OD.


No course not. i just though dieing gracefully is a sexy way to go...
I mean if I had a choice of taking a pill or fighting for survivial every day and every hour and minute and second of my life for the rest of my life just to barely LNK stay alive and even then it is in a very bad way of life and no qulaity of life and everything is harsh and everyone is mean and government is worse than hitler and cheney putting people in camps and police not caring and et cetc

I mean what options are they PRECRASH to stock up on pills??


What kind of pills are the best? Or shots? And how to obtain them?

I'm being serious people, stop BEING IN DENIAL all the day time, everyone here prepare for this and that, but when the shit really hits and IT FOR FUCKING EVER, I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks leaving earth early is the best option....
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby Kylon » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 21:57:10

I ask that the moderators lock this topic,

If for some reason someone does give you information on how to kill yourself due to the future situation, they could either be charged with murder, conspiracy to murder, assisted suicide, or conspiracy to assist suicide, and could go to prison for a long time.

Some hapless dolt who is focusing 95% of his/her energy of survival preparations may not be aware he/she is breaking the law, and the boom the person becomes a criminal.

So I ask that the mods lock this topic, and although I have nothing against the one who started this thread, as it is a real question, I just don't think it should be discussed openly on these forums, for possible legal complications.

Oh ontop of this, not just the person who tried to assist you with information might be taken down(if the government so feels like it), but the whole forum could as well.

Good question, but the world has alread slipped in too deep down the rabbit hole.
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 22:10:17

All it takes is a bottle of aspirin or a bullet to the head. Live life to it's fullest I say, Who knows what's really coming? I plan to dig up earthworms.
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby ZeroInfinity » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 23:10:07

you bunch of paranoid ass holes. Anybody can commit suicide, I was asking if anyone know how to do it without pain!

You know what I don't fucking get??

What I don't fucking get is this:

It is okay to SMOKE, to have careless sex and get AIDS, to DRINK ALCOHOL to drink tap water that is poisioned with flouride, its okay to
perpetuate the American Lie, its okay to believe in bullshit like Jesus H Fag Fucking Christ on a Cross, its okay to eat junk food that kills millions of americans each year, its perfectly god damn okay to get vioxx and all the other toxic poisions the greedy avarcious son of a bitch pharathetical companies sell us for profit,

BUT ITS NOT OKAY to ask for a quite, decent, harmless way to end one's own life???? WTF????

Instead what WE "SHOULD" do is continue on and perpetual this terrible fucking nightmare, becuase somehow THAT is okay with the 'LAW' and because the 'LAW' can be enforced and jails are subjectively and objectively 'REAL' and therefore and thus we must be afraid, and we mustn't ask questions that could be conisdered not with the 'law' and not socially 'correct'... well what the fuck is 'socially correct'???

This so called SOCIALLY CORRECT behavior is what got us into Oludvia gorge in the first fucking place...... Yes the LAW is God.
God is real.

yes, masters I will be silent lon this topic now, I do apolgize,\

yes if the FBI is reading this I was just joking, and now I know what is "RIGHT" and I swear this kind of crazy lunatic questions will never be asked again. yes the status quo is important, and yes thou shall not ask taboo questions lest thou gets the rath of an imaginary nonexistant supposedly onmipotent entity called G-D.

Oh wait, sorry, I was just kidding with you. God is REAL.

Oh lord. Oh fukcing hallelujah!
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby ZeroInfinity » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 23:21:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I') ask that the moderators lock this topic,

If for some reason someone does give you information on how to kill yourself due to the future situation, they could either be charged with murder, conspiracy to murder, assisted suicide, or conspiracy to assist suicide, and could go to prison for a long time.

Some hapless dolt who is focusing 95% of his/her energy of survival preparations may not be aware he/she is breaking the law, and the boom the person becomes a criminal.

So I ask that the mods lock this topic, and although I have nothing against the one who started this thread, as it is a real question, I just don't think it should be discussed openly on these forums, for possible legal complications.

Oh ontop of this, not just the person who tried to assist you with information might be taken down(if the government so feels like it), but the whole forum could as well.

Good question, but the world has alread slipped in too deep down the rabbit hole.


Discussed openly?

What the fuck we living in Hitler Reigeme now? Oh wait, I'm sorry I forgot, BUSH > Hitler.

You could use PGP, or any number of email encryption or encrypted software such as TrueCrypt. But then again nothing stops ECHELON. But then again the NSA has better shit to do than worry about 1 or 2 people PEACEFULLY and harmlessly discussing the potential options of POTENTIALLY ending their subjective lives when the shit hits and if it hits too hard.

Next thing you know we will have 'though crimes', certain shit you ain't supposed to
'think' about, becuase its consider taboo....

Funny, funny, funny, funny cause its just like in V for Vendetta you see those Government trucks taking people away to slaughter and on the back of the trucks it says : FOR YOUR PROTECTION.

So let me get this right, it is FOR MY PROTECTION that I get put into JAIL so that I can't think about 'harming myself'????? WTF???

People give me a god damn break, Bush killed 3500+ americans on 9/11 and 2500+ more on Iraq and Afghanistan and he becomes an worhsipped American HERO?!? Yet it's taboo to talk about enidng ones OWN life? I bet those two americans who were barbericly turtoured to death would have wished it ENDED sooner.
If Post peak life becomes like that, it is more humane to end one's own life than to live through that agony. (and its not like anyone lives FOREVER, we all die, just a matter of duration and time anyway) But then again I realize its not about what is right, or what is humane, or moral, its about the law, the status quo, the big government, its about THEM.

For my protection my ass.
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby ZeroInfinity » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 23:37:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I') ask that the moderators lock this topic,

If for some reason someone does give you information on how to kill yourself due to the future situation, they could either be charged with murder, conspiracy to murder, assisted suicide, or conspiracy to assist suicide, and could go to prison for a long time.

Some hapless dolt who is focusing 95% of his/her energy of survival preparations may not be aware he/she is breaking the law, and the boom the person becomes a criminal.

So I ask that the mods lock this topic, and although I have nothing against the one who started this thread, as it is a real question, I just don't think it should be discussed openly on these forums, for possible legal complications.

Oh ontop of this, not just the person who tried to assist you with information might be taken down(if the government so feels like it), but the whole forum could as well.

Good question, but the world has alread slipped in too deep down the rabbit hole.


you are sad... you are so sold be FEAR, so blinded by TERROR and paranoia, so controlled by the state sponsored spoon fed propaganda, you forget to ask yourself this question from time to time:

If you GIVE IN every time and give in to every concession, in the end you will still have your 'life' but WHAT exactly IS there LEFT to LIVE for?

Lab rat.

Funny, cause I thought moving to a foreign country will get me away from the rath of america. Then again I bet those in Korea, and Vietnam, and Iraq, and Afhganistan thought they were safe from the good old US of A too........ GUESS NOT!!! There is NO WHERE on earth that you can move to to escape the rath of the evil us government. NO WHERE.

So somehow its also not 'right' to move to another 'plane' of existence (yes DEATH, is that word really so taboo? maybe the NSA should get Websters to take it out of the dictionary) becuase even though I have not intervened with America they will come and 'liberate' me, and even though I just want to be left alone, they say NO that is NOT the proper way to think and behave, and then, and then even though I want to be left alone the US EVIl will dictate that I cannot 'escape' and that I am trapped and enslaved by their rules, whether on earth or in heaven, when in Texas or in Iraq, whether I am black, or white, or native, or asian....

WOW!!! what a fucking concept....


I don't blame anyone or anyhting. Something deeply wrong about the UNIVERSE we live in to allow such a thing to happen in the first place. Those MIT assholes better figure out a TOE quick.
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby ZeroInfinity » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 23:44:12

hey, what the hell happened to the LOCK, BAN, CLOSE, BLOCK, ACCOUNT TERMINATION?????

OR maybe the cops are already on the way over here???

To the FBI/CIA/HOMELAND/NSA agent reading this:

http://www.nonduality.info/awareness.html
http://www.nonduality.info/awareness.html
http://www.nonduality.info/awareness.html
http://www.nonduality.info/awareness.html
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby ZeroInfinity » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 23:46:16

and then when cheney comes busting through the door and beating me with his shotgun, he'll say:

NOT SO FUNNY ANYMORE, IS IT FUNNY MAN???????
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby ZeroInfinity » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 23:48:36

But more realistically, when I get tortured by the Police they will make sure I say:

"Sorry SIR. This Citizens Vice President of the United States is the Honorable Mr. Cheney. This Citizen shall never again use the Vice President of the United States Honorable Mr. Cheney's Honorable Name in vain again so help me God"
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby Kylon » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 23:59:19

You shouldn't be mad at me, I'm not trying to be a jerk,


You just need to understand these are delicate times, I'm not at all happy about the situation. I'd prefer that we have full open speech.

I am a libertarian after all.

So please don't be upset, just relax, take everything with a grain of salt.

I don't like it any more than you do.
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby ZeroInfinity » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 00:05:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'Y')ou shouldn't be mad at me, I'm not trying to be a jerk,


You just need to understand these are delicate times, I'm not at all happy about the situation. I'd prefer that we have full open speech.

I am a libertarian after all.

So please don't be upset, just relax, take everything with a grain of salt.

I don't like it any more than you do.


I'm NOT mad at you. There is no 'I' that exists to be mad at 'you'.
DENAIL STOPS HERE. When people figure out there is no 'I' that lives that is when they also realize what silly concept it is to believe that the 'I' can 'die'. Understand??
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You just need to understand these are delicate times, I'm not at all happy about the situation. I'd prefer that we have full open speech.

Tell you the truth kylon, I got told that same EXACT thing this past Friday by someone else in person. (not online).

And you know what I have to say about that?
IT WILL ONLY GET FOREVER WORSE. The math of Olduvai Gorge dictates that it shall be so. It is a thing just as certain as Titanic sinking after busting five watertight compartments.

IT WILL ONLY GET FOREVER WORSE, FOREVER WORSE from here on out. So if there was every a time to 'b-tch' it is NOW. If there was ever a time to get 'prepared' it is NOW. If there was ever a time to do ANYTHING, it is NOW. If not 'NOW' then 'WHEN'?? In truth, if you think about it, you can ONLY live in the PRESENT.

Every blames it on the 'current times' and acting like its just temporary and things will get better and back to the Freedom it was. Well its NOT gonna get better, and FREEDOM is NOT coming back. People need to see this is PERMANENT wave and its not going away anytime soon, NOT EVER. Stop the DENIAL.

In the end we are all dead anyway (PO or not), its what we did, how we lived, what we believed that matters.
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby Kylon » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 00:25:16

I agree that it will only get worse, and that our government is going to become a dictatorship.

You should think out your position though,

The solution to the problem is not get really mad(and ultimately violent) with the government, but rather to acquire resources, skills, abilities, knowledge and assets, and connections, and ultimately leave this nation.

The future of democracy is in Oceanic Colonies. Colonies built in and on the Ocean.

These colonies have access to Oceanic thermal difference energy, as well as tidal energy, and can be reconfigured to become drilling/mining stations for deep sea mineral resources. Also, if you have fusion energy, the oceans give a virtually limitless supply of deuterium for fusion reactions.

They also have access to virtually endless territory for growing food.

That's the future of democracy, and that's where I'm headed after I get my education, and acquire some wealth/supplies, and make some money off of some technologies I'm working on.

Also, you need to understand, that rebellion against the government is futile. Ultimately there are too few people with too few guns, and little or no training. Ontop of that you have the sheeple factor. There are many, many sheeple, who can be told what to do, very easily. If the people weren't sheeple, there might be a chance, but they are, so there isn't.

So the only real option(that gives any quality of life) is to leave the country, after acquiring sufficient resources and infrastructure to build an oceanic colony.

Sorry,
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 00:28:15

Oceanic Colonies. Sounds poetic. I want to join up, take to the sea.
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Re: Voluntary euthanasia

Unread postby Kylon » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 02:11:12

pstarrr,


not to worry, escape is possible, and it is in the woodworks, I'm not the only person who has thought of constructing an oceanic colony.

You shouldn't be such a pessimist. Being realistic is good, but never seeing any possiblities is bad.

There are better things in life than joints.

Just relax, and work towards your goal, and eventually you(should) have it. If what your doing is ineffective at accomplishing your goal, then you perhaps should change your strategy.


BTW, PMS, if I get an oceanic colony going, then the more the merrier, it will be a brave new world, and as many people as possible will be needed to make it work. It will be like the Western frontiers of old, except instead of Indians there will be pirates, instead of it being super dry it will be super wet, and it will take someone of a much higher level of intelligence to thrive, as oceanic civilization will be more complex, more profitable, more successful, and more artificial than regular civilization.


The bright will be though that there will be virtually an infinite supply of renewable energy for the oceanic colonies, due to Tidal energy, underwater currents, and oceanic thermal differences, which can be used to produce power. So the bright side will be that we get to keep all of our modern conviences(air conditioning, television sets, refridgeration, cheaper food, higher standard of living ect...), and there will virtually an infinite amount of space(but infrastructure will have to be built there in order to occupy it).
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