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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Wed 11 Jun 2008, 19:21:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', '2') spooks and 2 county deputies "interviewed" me this morning concerning my "freeway blogging" activities.

i can't help but be curious if the FBI guys looked like the Men in Black.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Wed 11 Jun 2008, 19:28:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'C')ompassion and pragmatism co-exist very peacefully within me.
I synthesize them into common sense and it works well.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby arretium » Wed 11 Jun 2008, 21:28:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('arretium', 'N')ot exactly. You have the right to remain silent regarding any of your own presumptive criminal wrongdoings. The right to remain silent does not extend to simply answering question from the FBI. Hence, people can be detained and charged with obstruction of justice even though the FBI was only requesting information from the suspect in question.

I dunno. I'd sure be taking the fifth if a bunch of spooks showed up at my house and started asking weird questions. Like Dissimulo said, there's no telling what they're trying to pin on whom at that point or how they're going to twist your words against you. Talking to someone who is allowed to lie to you and use your words against you in court is just stupid. You want to drag me in front of a grand jury and show me an immunity order, maybe that's a different story.

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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Thu 12 Jun 2008, 14:12:05

I have had been visited by the FBI twice. I can't believe that out of all of the nuts on this forum that oowolf is the only other person to have the feds and local police show up at his home. Last fall I had a two feds and one local show up to my dorm room. Of course myself and two other students posted a large epitaph of bush hanging from tree, just before he showed up to support some republican.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby dinopello » Thu 12 Jun 2008, 14:27:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', '2') spooks and 2 county deputies "interviewed" me this morning concerning my "freeway blogging" activities.

i can't help but be curious if the FBI guys looked like the Men in Black.


I liked the two guys from the original "Die Hard" movie.

"I'm agent Johnson, and this is special agent Johnson. No relation"

If the FBI wanted fertile ground for littering on public parkland, they only need catch the metro to the National Mall and bust tourists. Especially on events like 4th of July. But all they do is send out the cleaning crew.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 12 Jun 2008, 15:23:29

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If the FBI wanted fertile ground for littering on public parkland, they only need catch the metro to the National Mall and bust tourists. Especially on events like 4th of July. But all they do is send out the cleaning crew.


Litter on the National Mall doesn't kill people.

Litter on freeways does kill people. THe NYTIMES reports that over 150 people have been killed in the last two years by litter on the freeway just in California.

Here is a NY TIMES story about an ongoing national crackdown on highway litter being done for safety reasons rather then for political reasons, as some would like to believe.

NYTIMES report on crackdown on freeway litter hazards

It is certainly possible that the authorities are interested in oowolf's littering only because of his political views, but it is also possible he has been "swept up" in the ongoing national anti-litter safety compaign that has been undertaken to reduce freeway litter and save lives.

I'm sure even oowolf wouldn't want to cause someone to be injured or worse in a car accident, as might happen if one of his signs came loose and got stuck on someone's windshield. After all, as the NY TIMES points out, accidental highway littering as occurs when something falls off a truck is stupid enough, but people who intentionally throw things out of their windows or who purposefully take things along with them to dump or leave on the freeways, as oowolf does, are being completely irresponsible.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 12 Jun 2008, 15:53:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'A')fter all, as the NY TIMES points out, accidental highway littering as occurs when something falls off a truck is stupid enough, but people who intentionally throw things out of their windows or who purposefully take things along with them to dump or leave on the freeways, as oowolf does, are being completely irresponsible.


I bet oowolf (and a lot other forum members) is like this in real life.

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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby oowolf » Thu 12 Jun 2008, 17:01:32

I had a talk with one of the deputies yesterday. This incident was instigated by the local clique of "good ole boys" who've been trying to "get" me for years. You know the type: redneck nascar moron Boss Hogg clones that go apoplectic and choke on their snoose whenever they see a "Flush Bush" sign. They're the ones who kept filing various flimsy "complaints" against me. Eventually the sheriff told them essentially to "get a life". Then they started pestering the FBI, Secret Service, ASPCA, Psychic hotline or anyone else who would listen to their gibberings.
They must have convinced someone that there might be a chance I would like to decapitate Il Duce and parade down Pennsylvania Ave. with his head atop a pikepole.
The local cops are actually sympathetic to many of my opinions (some are recent veterans) and feel they have more important things than to do than do the bidding of a bunch of inbred, mouth-breathing, booger-picking, pork-and-bean-farting, dimbulbs who drive around in diesel powered super-dooper dually pickups plastered with "Support our Troops" stickies and fading "Hunters for Bush" bumper stickers; their pickup beds full of half crushed beercans. I doubt if any of these neanderthals are capable of self-reflection; it would be a real bummer to realize that for years you've been supporting a PATHETIC LOSER.
What a waste of energy and the suffering taxpayers $.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby Hoops_Mckann » Thu 12 Jun 2008, 17:19:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'I') had a talk with one of the deputies yesterday. This incident was instigated by the local clique of "good ole boys" who've been trying to "get" me for years. You know the type: redneck nascar moron Boss Hogg clones that go apoplectic and choke on their snoose whenever they see a "Flush Bush" sign. They're the ones who kept filing various flimsy "complaints" against me. Eventually the sheriff told them essentially to "get a life". Then they started pestering the FBI, Secret Service, ASPCA, Psychic hotline or anyone else who would listen to their gibberings.
They must have convinced someone that there might be a chance I would like to decapitate Il Duce and parade down Pennsylvania Ave. with his head atop a pikepole.
The local cops are actually sympathetic to many of my opinions (some are recent veterans) and feel they have more important things than to do than do the bidding of a bunch of inbred, mouth-breathing, booger-picking, pork-and-bean-farting, dimbulbs who drive around in diesel powered super-dooper dually pickups plastered with "Support our Troops" stickies and fading "Hunters for Bush" bumper stickers; their pickup beds full of half crushed beercans. I doubt if any of these neanderthals are capable of self-reflection; it would be a real bummer to realize that for years you've been supporting a PATHETIC LOSER.
What a waste of energy and the suffering taxpayers $.

I know the type of rednecks. Seems they have very little cognitve abilities other than what titilates them. Those guys are the worst to have a physical altercation with, not very rational at all and would take you down in a second to "keep it real".
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby vetusfirma » Thu 12 Jun 2008, 17:21:21

oowolf: that may all be true, at least as far as you understand truth. Just remember, they know where you live.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby mercurygirl » Thu 12 Jun 2008, 18:12:53

Don't worry about oowolf, he can definitely take care of himself.

It's nice to know the cops are sympathetic, but what about the feds? Didn't they threaten you basically, in order to make you discontinue your activities?

I'd put up as many day-glo signs as would fit in my yard. :lol:
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby threadbear » Thu 12 Jun 2008, 19:38:07

Oowolf, LMAO. Funny post. Oh lord! In defense of stupid people, some of them have great personalities that override their limitations. On the other hand you have the stupid and mean spirited. Darwinian forces will most definitely take care of this lot. [smilie=5dunce.gif]
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Sun 15 Jun 2008, 10:08:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'T')his incident was instigated by the local clique of "good ole boys" who've been trying to "get" me for years....They're the ones who kept filing various flimsy "complaints" against me. Eventually the sheriff told them essentially to "get a life".


Good on you.

I live among the rednecks you describe. Their hypocrisy makes me angry.

They want all the benefits of freedom like "drive what you want", firearms, and economic freedom, but squeal like spoiled socialist brats when the government won't subsidize their lifestyle.

I appreciate your symbolic work prompting them to get real and think.

Glad to hear the LEO's weren't total knobs. I know some LEO's who are really good, sensible people who dislike fascist socialism.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Sun 15 Jun 2008, 17:06:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', 'T')his is really true. I have both military and police friends (one who used to be LAPD SWAT but lives in TN now), and they're overall very nice people, with kids and families.

How you seen the old news reals from the 30's? Germans said the same exact thing about the SS. Yeah. I know. She's using the Hitler card, but it's not like people can't lead dual lives. People who do horrible things in service to an ideology almost always go home at night to play with their dog and hug their kids. Lots of them even coach little league in their spare time. That doesn't mean they're not pulling people's fingernails out during the day.

Most policemen have better things to do than pull fingernails out.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby Micki » Sun 15 Jun 2008, 19:42:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ost policemen have better things to do than pull fingernails out.

They sure do. A new batch of tasers is being distributed and you can't trust it until it is thoroughly tested.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 15 Jun 2008, 19:54:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ost policemen have better things to do than pull fingernails out.

They sure do. A new batch of tasers is being distributed and you can't trust it until it is thoroughly tested.


Mr. oowolf wasn't tasered nor were his fingernails pulled out, nor was he whisked away to Guantanamo and forced to endure air-conditioning.

He was politely asked to stop taping his handmade signs up along the freeway -- . :)
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby Micki » Sun 15 Jun 2008, 21:17:39

It was more a general reflection of support to smallpoxgirl's comments about how just about anyone can be molded to do the job no matter how cruel it may be, independently of how nice this person is in other circumstances.



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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby freddyseven » Sun 15 Jun 2008, 21:56:54

Peer Pressure can make almost anyone do almost anything.
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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby davep » Mon 16 Jun 2008, 04:40:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('freddyseven', 'P')eer Pressure can make almost anyone do almost anything.


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Re: Visited by FBI this morning

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Mon 16 Jun 2008, 12:33:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('freddyseven', 'P')eer Pressure can make almost anyone do almost anything.


If you say so :-D


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