[ClassicSpiderman]

Not sure what to make of this. This smells a lot like those 3000 MPG car stories where it turns out that you're driving a luge on wheels where you have to lie down on your back. I also remember the story of the water-powered car whose inventor backed out when other university physics professors offered to examine it in order to give it credibility.

Fla. Man Invents Machine To Turn Water Into Fire

I wonder what the EROEI for this is?

[Gerben]

Well since you first have to put the energy in to make the hydrogen, it's not going to be very good.

[BastardSquad]

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I wonder what the EROEI for this is?

[Gazzatrone]

Fire from ordinary salt water?

You have to watch the video for this but can anyone hazzard a guess as to what the red liquid is sitting at the bottom of the test tube before he adds the saltwater.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClassicSpiderman', 'N')ot sure what to make of this. This smells a lot like those 3000 MPG car stories where it turns out that you're driving a luge on wheels where you have to lie down on your back. I also remember the story of the water-powered car whose inventor backed out when other university physics professors offered to examine it in order to give it credibility.

Fla. Man Invents Machine To Turn Water Into Fire

I wonder what the EROEI for this is?

[Doly]

OK, some basic chemistry. I will say it in layman's terms, because for those who know some chemistry this is so evident it doesn't need explaining.

Every chemical substance has a certain amount of energy stored in the links between atoms. To go from one chemical to another, you either have to provide energy (if the second chemical has more stored energy), or you obtain energy (if the second chemical has less stored energy).

Water has notably low stored energy. Less than oxygen and hydrogen, that are its component elements. So, to go from water to hydrogen, you always, ALWAYS have to provide energy. Any way you do it. Full stop.

[Gazzatrone]

Another question I'd ask is whether this needs saltwater, or does any water work? Which is why I asked what the red substance could be. As saltwater would be chemically different from H20. Is there something else going on here than just the seperation of the water molecules.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClassicSpiderman', 'N')ot sure what to make of this. This smells a lot like those 3000 MPG car stories where it turns out that you're driving a luge on wheels where you have to lie down on your back. I also remember the story of the water-powered car whose inventor backed out when other university physics professors offered to examine it in order to give it credibility.

Fla. Man Invents Machine To Turn Water Into Fire

I wonder what the EROEI for this is?