[jedrider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')AVE stands for---
In Eating, Anderson devised the acronym RAVE that embodies the key features of this diet that helps prevent and even reverse chronic degenerative diseases. RAVE is broken down as follows:


No Refined foods
No Animal foods
No Vegetable oils
No Exceptions
& Exercise

[jedrider]

Not getting much of a dialogue going here

Anyway, a friend pushed the book/dvd on me as we were trading things we didn't want, me giving up furniture that I had no use for any longer and my buddy giving me a diet book/dvd that he had no intention of ever reading/watching, let alone ever following.

It's had about the effect on me of first hearing about Peak Oil, busting whatever self-complacency I had on the issue. At least, it is something we can do something about

Down 7 pounds in about 14 days and now I can probably contemplate facing my doctor who had been refraining that my cholesterol level is too high for a number of years now. (No obesity here, just typical diet, actually better than typical -- except for beer -- as well as lack of sufficient physical activity, although working on improving that as well.)

[sittinguy]

Sorry , I saw rave diet, and thought it was drop a bean, dance all night and lose 3 pounds.

[jedrider]

I edited post and mentioned 'beer', that should get some more interest!

I actually switched to wine to cut coloric intake

I was thinking that post carrying capacity correction, that is our diet. There won't be many animals. Got to get those vinyards going. Also need the doomstead, too!

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sittinguy', 'S')orry , I saw rave diet, and thought it was drop a bean, dance all night and lose 3 pounds.

[Narz]

I think it (the diet) could work out for many people. Personally I'd wonder how someone would get enough fat (specificly omega-3's) but if they ate ground flaxseeds & supplemented B12 (or ate an egg now & then) they'd probably be fine.

I have a lot of respect for vegans as they are doing more for the environment than just about anyone. The mother of my child is on a similar mostly-raw-food diet but I encourage her to take DHA and B-vitamins since she's still breastfeeding.

I was vegan myself for a number of years. I'm still mostly vegetarian. I still follow the R and mostly the V (except I use coconut oil & flax oil occasionally) rules. My housemate does too except he's a raw paleo (eats raw meat he buys from some Amish farms over the border in Penn. It seems to be working ok for him but he's young so who knows long term.

[smallpoxgirl]

Just off the top of my head, I would say that sounds like the opposite of a healthy diet. Vegetarianism is a dangerous fad. Humans are not intended to run off a diet of starch.

[yeahbut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', ' ') My housemate does too except he's a raw paleo (eats raw meat he buys from some Amish farms over the border in Penn. It seems to be working ok for him but he's young so who knows long term.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yeahbut', 'W')ow that must carry some serious risk as far as parasites and disease are concerned. High temperature is a pretty effective way of killing a lot of nasties- and even the healthiest animals can have nasties...

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'J')ust off the top of my head, I would say that sounds like the opposite of a healthy diet. Vegetarianism is a dangerous fad. Humans are not intended to run off a diet of starch.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'V')egetarianism (or near vegetarianism) would be much more common if people had to pay the true economic cost of meat. If they had to pay the true economic AND ecological cost.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'V')egetarianism (or near vegetarianism) would be much more common if people had to pay the true economic cost of meat. If they had to pay the true economic AND ecological cost.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', ' ')
That's baloney. People try to push vegetarianism as a way to make the earth tolerate cramming in even more people. The problem is population, not carnivorism. Feeding people an unhealthy starch based diet to try to cram in a billion more people in the clown car is not reasonable.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'V')egetarian is a slave diet.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'L')ivestock are "meant" to run off starch even less so than humans but we plump 'em up with it anyway.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ctually grass is about 75% carbs and grains are digested the same.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', ' ')
That's baloney. People try to push vegetarianism as a way to make the earth tolerate cramming in even more people. The problem is population, not carnivorism. Feeding people an unhealthy starch based diet to try to cram in a billion more people in the clown car is not reasonable.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')Reality is that the more meat you eat the more enviromentally friendly you are.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')Reality is that the more meat you eat the more enviromentally friendly you are.