[timmac]

This looks like London or Berlin during WW2 but in color.
[ and some of these vids are from 3 years ago ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM [part 1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfhsS-KMFL4 [part 2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHhUDKfiggY [part 3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCm1tQfuHeg [final cut]

[timmac]

Abandoned Detroit Skyscrapers [ Perfect Doomsteads ]
[ excellence square footage ][ grow your food on the roof ][ iron plate the lower windows and doors ]
[ cheap in price ][ did I mention views ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JbGxIR8JTk

[timmac]

2009 Detroit is Gone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eR5bZ-lRL4

[Pretorian]

keep breeding them and all America will look like that.

[Ainan]

Nice videos timmac, still haven't got around to finishing Fallout 3 now that I think about it.

Here's a nice video of a city council meeting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqOSNI7l0bQ

Too bad, it was one of the greatest cities in the world a few generations ago.

Here's some more videos, just for fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYDg3ofh7dM - Rhodesia in the 70s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPKGZreusoQ - Rename the country Zimbabwe...

[JJ]

good find, timmac...


ainan, my wife got out of bed when she heard the city council meeting and said what is that?

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ainan', 'N')ice videos timmac, still haven't got around to finishing Fallout 3 now that I think about it.

Here's a nice video of a city council meeting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqOSNI7l0bQ

Too bad, it was one of the greatest cities in the world a few generations ago.

Here's some more videos, just for fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYDg3ofh7dM - Rhodesia in the 70s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPKGZreusoQ - Rename the country Zimbabwe...

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')It is too bad we don't have feral ghouls to unleash on Goldman Sachs and company.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')It is too bad we don't have feral ghouls to unleash on Goldman Sachs and company.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')By the way does ANYONE know a Piper-genus (related to black pepper) species that will grow in zone 7 climate? Most I have seen so far is zone 8, I want to use them as a substitute for ivy as a ground cover, as well as harvesting seeds as a pepper substitute.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')By the way does ANYONE know a Piper-genus (related to black pepper) species that will grow in zone 7 climate? Most I have seen so far is zone 8, I want to use them as a substitute for ivy as a ground cover, as well as harvesting seeds as a pepper substitute.

[eXpat]

People fond of Sci Fi and that has been around for a while, may remember a series of TV shows and movies of Dr Quatermass, it was scary like hell, back then
Look at the image they have back in the 70´s about the future in the UK, Some striking similarities with Children of Men.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=634882292000622550&ei=ZEIuSZ25CJSM-QHHkM3jDQ&q=quatermass#

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'P')eople fond of Sci Fi and that has been around for a while, may remember a series of TV shows and movies of Dr Quatermass, it was scary like hell, back then
Look at the image they have back in the 70´s about the future in the UK, Some striking similarities with Children of Men.

[eXpat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'P')eople fond of Sci Fi and that has been around for a while, may remember a series of TV shows and movies of Dr Quatermass, it was scary like hell, back then
Look at the image they have back in the 70´s about the future in the UK, Some striking similarities with Children of Men.

[Ainan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'P')eople fond of Sci Fi and that has been around for a while, may remember a series of TV shows and movies of Dr Quatermass, it was scary like hell, back then
Look at the image they have back in the 70´s about the future in the UK, Some striking similarities with Children of Men.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=634882292000622550&ei=ZEIuSZ25CJSM-QHHkM3jDQ&q=quatermass#

[eXpat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ainan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'P')eople fond of Sci Fi and that has been around for a while, may remember a series of TV shows and movies of Dr Quatermass, it was scary like hell, back then
Look at the image they have back in the 70´s about the future in the UK, Some striking similarities with Children of Men.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=634882292000622550&ei=ZEIuSZ25CJSM-QHHkM3jDQ&q=quatermass#

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'T')his looks like London or Berlin during WW2 but in color.
[ and some of these vids are from 3 years ago ]

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', '
')zone 7 hardy olive tree cultivar

[Revi]

Any place could get dicey soon. I watched the youtube vids of Detroit and saw very little glass in the buildings. A lot of houses had been burned.

My Grandmother used to live in the South Bronx, and it looked like that.

We got her out of there, but the whole place was a wreck not long after.

That was in the 80's.

It makes me think that the only way to stay in a neighborhood like that is to have bulletproof shutters and kevlar house wrap.

Most people made the choice to abandon it.

[MarkJ]

We have some poor sections of Upstate NY cities with similar issues. When industry, supporting businesses, the middle class, the upper middle class and wealthy moved out, it left pockets of cities with many century old vacant, abandoned or condemned structures, lead, asbestos, industrial mill waste and a much smaller tax base.

Many of the people that remained behind were poor, uneducated, unemployable renters, or poor and fixed income homeowners that couldn't afford to cut and run. Many single family homes were cut up into 2/3/4 Plus unit multi-family homes, then rented to low income tenants.

Many of the vacant tax auction properties were purchased by out-of-town slumlords, then rented to welfare tenants, criminals, thugs, sex offenders, disabled or retarded tenants.

Public housing projects, slumlords renting to Section 8 tenants, welfare motels and liberal welfare benefits attracted even more poor, uneducated, unemployable renters to these regions.

As tax base decreased and property values declined, cities were forced to raise tax rates and cut services which caused even more businesses and homeowners to move to neighboring towns, villages and suburbs.

In some of these cities, Medicaid spending alone consumes well over 50 percent of property tax revenue. The high property taxes alone prevent many people from renovating, building or selling.