[Buggy]

Revolt. Isn't it a hundred years overdue? The American working class has been getting fleeced by the central bankers since at least 1913, and ever more so with each administration that passes through the White House. What now separates us from the peasants and the royalty of 'yor? The central bankers, the unelected private kings have robbed and pillaged us long enough. Burnanke and Geithner, right under our noses, have fed their cronies trillions of our dollars leaving us with not enough money to pay our mortgages and feed our children. Why, after 4 years of paying on a mortgage, do I still owe just a little less than the amount I borrowed???? I pay over and never miss a payment. I borrowed 122,000 at 6 percent interest for 30 years (VA loan) and owe 110,000 after 4 years and over 52,000 dollars paid out by me. It is simply criminal. Yet as much money as they have made, they still managed to run the economy into the ground. IT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY!!!!! There was a day when a mortgage could be no more than 7 years and my wife would not have needed to work. We are slowly getting boiled while we sit in front of our flatscreens getting brainwashed by the MSM. What can we do? Break into the gated communities where the bankers live in their mansions and string them up from the highest tree? It's what our ancestors would have done. How about we all collectively just stop paying our mortgages? Or maybe we buy nothing made in China? There must be something we can do to free us from the silence that comes with being a part of the extorted majority.

[timmac]

Well you can pay rent for 4 years and see what you have after that, pay extra each month with separate check and state it is for principal only and your pay off will move much faster.

Also 30 year loans are not that great, it takes 10 years before the principal amount really starts to move, by a house you can afford and make the loan no longer than 15 years.

[Novus]

You want to revolt quit your job, sell your house, and move out of the cities and suburbs and out into the stix and live by doing odd jobs under the table. Every slave that just ups and walks away is one less slave for the machine.

[Prince]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'Y')et as much money as they have made, they still managed to run the economy into the ground. IT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY!!!!! There was a day when a mortgage could be no more than 7 years and my wife would not have needed to work. We are slowly getting boiled while we sit in front of our flatscreens getting brainwashed by the MSM. What can we do? Break into the gated communities where the bankers live in their mansions and string them up from the highest tree? It's what our ancestors would have done.

[perdition79]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'Y')ou want to revolt quit your job, sell your house, and move out of the cities and suburbs and out into the stix and live by doing odd jobs under the table. Every slave that just ups and walks away is one less slave for the machine.

[kpeavey]

You can choose to do nothing. You can choose to do something. You got yourself into the situation you are in, its up to you to get yourself out.

Do nothing, your situation continues, Business as Usual. You accept those things that give you grief. The system remains unchanged.

Do something, your situation changes. It might be better, it might be worse. The system may remain unchanged, but there is a chance for change.

All alone, you won't have much affect on the system. Your choices will have great impact on your own situation, regardless of the system.

I am mostly outside the system. perdition79 speaks of freedom. With freedom comes responsibility. The trade off is comfort and security. Take enough responsibility, comfort and security will take care of itself.

I suggest you taste freedom. It is sweet, juicy and has an exquisite texture. While the system may fill you up, it is bland and unremarkable.

The industrialization and globalization of the past century has produced pre-packaged lives. It gets dropped off by UPS, you open the box, live it according to the directions, life is easy and its good because the box says it is good. Fact of the matter is the people that live these standardized, play-by-the-rules, conform-and-obey lives have no clue what living is all about. A caged bird sings because it does not know any better.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'W')hy, after 4 years of paying on a mortgage, do I still owe just a little less than the amount I borrowed???? I pay over and never miss a payment. I borrowed 122,000 at 6 percent interest for 30 years (VA loan) and owe 110,000 after 4 years and over 52,000 dollars paid out by me. It is simply criminal. Yet as much money as they have made, they still managed to run the economy into the ground. IT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY!!!!! There was a day when a mortgage could be no more than 7 years and my wife would not have needed to work.

[ian807]

As long as food and water, media and drugs are plentiful, there will be no revolt. Take any one or two away, however, and it won't be pretty. I'd like to see the political landscape one year after all mood changing drugs disappear.

[TreeFarmer]

If you can't pay for something in 15 years or less you can't afford it. Past 15 years compound interest eats you alive, plain and simple.

What can you do? Well its pretty simple, in fact Dave Ramsey lays it out in his book Total Money Makeover, get completely out of debt. Debt, and its associated compound interest, is what the bankers use to get you to work for them. All you have to do to not "play their game" is to get out of debt. Read Dave's book because he does the best job of explaining out how to get out of debt with is very simplistic plan.

I've read tons of financial/self help books over the years. Without a doubt Dave's book is the best personal money management book for a person in your position by a large margin.

TF

[Buggy]

I believe real freedom does exist outside the system. My wife gets tired of me saying we need to sell everything and go off-grid. The trap is the house. Did I know what was getting into? Like many others, I had not yet been snapped into reality by Peak Oil. That enlightment was May of 2008. Many things have changed since then. Now my only debt is my house. Back in 2004 everybody was telling me "a house is the best investment you'll ever make." Yes, I did the math. It wasn't adding up in my head. But for a family of six, renting was more expensive than buying. I can afford my payments and just refinanced to 20 years with the same payment. I could have gone 15 but I decided it would be safer to go 20 and continue to overpay than to have the higher 15 year payment and not be able to make the payment in the case of less income. The anger comes in knowing who is really running things after connecting the dots, and how complacent America has become to just let it go on until we are all starving.

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'R')evolt. Isn't it a hundred years overdue?

[Buggy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'P')ersonal experience has shown that people who ask for large gifts are rarely prepared for said gifts, and they are rarely happy with what they get. I suspect this may be the case.

[Ayame]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', ' ') IT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY!!!!! There was a day when a mortgage could be no more than 7 years and my wife would not have needed to work. We are slowly getting boiled while we sit in front of our flatscreens getting brainwashed by the MSM. What can we do? Break into the gated communities where the bankers live in their mansions and string them up from the highest tree? It's what our ancestors would have done.

[Buggy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', 'G')ood for you. I see one who isn't about to sit and starve when SHTF. Another spartan at the pass. We will fight together brothers in arms when the day comes and possibly dine in hell but at least we will dine with pride.

[Cloud9]

Right, then we can all be out of toilet paper.



http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... paper.html

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'R')evolt. Isn't it a hundred years overdue? .

[pablonite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Prince', '*')Government
*Education system
*Banks
*Corporations
*Mass mainstream media

Write down who runs every one of these facets--virtually every significant portion of our lives--connect the dots, and you'll quickly see why there will be no revolt.

[Buggy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'T')hat would have been 40 years after the Civil War, so there was probably not a lot of enthusiasm for another one. Should we just repeat that exercise in civics every 50 years?