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by PenultimateManStanding » Wed 24 Sep 2008, 19:06:09
Bill Ayers and Obama may come back as a campaign issue. So who was this guy Ayers? Sounds to me like he was a posturing dilettant radical. Formed the Weathermen and set off some bombs that did a bit of structural damage. The student radical movement of the late 60s and early 70s was probably just as much or more about striking a romantic radical pose as it was about The Cause. He never had to do any jail time due to some legal issue or other, but I'd guess it had something to do with fact that his father was CEO of Commonwealth Edison.
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Re: Bill Ayers & the Weathermen
by Plantagenet » Wed 24 Sep 2008, 21:03:10
You left out the terrorist bomber part of it. There is no need to leave it out----Bill Ayers is proud of his part in the Weathermen's terror bombing campaign.
A substantial portion of Ayers' book Fugitive Days discusses the author's joy in building and deploying explosives. Ayers boasts that he "participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972."
Ayers states: "There's something about a good bomb … Night after night, day after day, each majestic scene I witnessed was so terrible and so unexpected that no city would ever again stand innocently fixed in my mind. Big buildings and wide streets, cement and steel were no longer permanent. They, too, were fragile and destructible. A torch, a bomb, a strong enough wind, and they, too, would come undone or get knocked down."
All told, Ayers and Weatherman were responsible for 30 bombings aimed at destroying the defense and security infrastructures of the U.S. "I don't regret setting bombs, said Ayers in 2001, "I feel we didn't do enough."
The bombings mainly targetted property, but in 1970, Ayers' then-girlfriend Diana Oughton, along with Weatherman members Terry Robbins and Ted Gold, were killed when a large bomb they were constructing exploded unexpectedly. That bomb had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plan been successfully executed. Ayers attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, "tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too."
A substantial portion of Ayers' book Fugitive Days discusses the author's joy in building and deploying explosives. Ayers boasts that he "participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972."
Ayers states: "There's something about a good bomb … Night after night, day after day, each majestic scene I witnessed was so terrible and so unexpected that no city would ever again stand innocently fixed in my mind. Big buildings and wide streets, cement and steel were no longer permanent. They, too, were fragile and destructible. A torch, a bomb, a strong enough wind, and they, too, would come undone or get knocked down."
All told, Ayers and Weatherman were responsible for 30 bombings aimed at destroying the defense and security infrastructures of the U.S. "I don't regret setting bombs, said Ayers in 2001, "I feel we didn't do enough."
The bombings mainly targetted property, but in 1970, Ayers' then-girlfriend Diana Oughton, along with Weatherman members Terry Robbins and Ted Gold, were killed when a large bomb they were constructing exploded unexpectedly. That bomb had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plan been successfully executed. Ayers attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, "tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too."
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Re: Bill Ayers & the Weathermen
by AlexdeLarge » Wed 24 Sep 2008, 23:31:35
He is not the Bill Ayers I thought I knew.
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Re: Bill Ayers & the Weathermen
by smallpoxgirl » Wed 24 Sep 2008, 23:42:19
Other than a couple of their own members that were killed in the town house explosion, Weatherman's bombs never injured a single person. Meanwhile McCain was busy killing and maiming innocent people in Vietnam. John McCain is sure enough actual terrorist. He intentionally blew people up. Ayers was just trying to stop terrorists like McCain, and he never hurt a single person in the process.
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Re: Bill Ayers & the Weathermen
by PenultimateManStanding » Wed 24 Sep 2008, 23:48:54
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', 'H')e is not the Bill Ayers I thought I knew.
Yeah, these weren't your heavy duty terrorists. They were ETA-light. A farce. Back in those days Japan and Europe produced some hard core types, but not the US. They were mostly just upper class narcissists raised on James Dean and Bob Dylan. The real hard core types went into auto-towing and the mob.Turn those Machines back On! - Don Ameche in Trading Places
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Re: Bill Ayers & the Weathermen
by PenultimateManStanding » Thu 25 Sep 2008, 00:14:24
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', ' ')Ayers was just trying to stop terrorists like McCain, and he never hurt a single person in the process.
Kind of figured on a response or three like this. Of course he killed people, his own followers who blew themselves up making bombs while stoned and listening to "Subterranean Homesick Blues." "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows". . .Turn those Machines back On! - Don Ameche in Trading Places
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Re: Bill Ayers & the Weathermen
by smallpoxgirl » Thu 25 Sep 2008, 00:54:20
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'O')f course he killed people, his own followers who blew themselves up making bombs
Negative. Ayers wasn't part of that cell and wasn't privy to their activities. He was shocked when he learned about it as were most of Weather. That's why they vowed to (and succeeded in) making sure from there out that their bombs didn't hurt anyone. If we're going to play guilt by association, then Ayers is as guilty for the townhouse as McCain is for Mi Lai.
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Re: Bill Ayers & the Weathermen
by jbrovont » Thu 25 Sep 2008, 02:22:43
You also left out the link to the website you cut & pasted from.
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I'm not trying to smack you here Plant, but the text you copied is replete with contextual misrepresentations.
The guy was inarguably radical - it doesn't need to be exagerated. The book is self described fiction. The two conjoined quotes taken to mean "I regret not blowing up more sh*t," is a coulterism.
Let him stand on his own. He's a self desccribed homosexual left-wing, violent radical communist. Did I miss anything? :D
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'Y')ou left out the terrorist bomber part of it. There is no need to leave it out----Bill Ayers is proud of his part in the Weathermen's terror bombing campaign.
A substantial portion of Ayers' book Fugitive Days discusses the author's joy in building and deploying explosives. Ayers boasts that he "participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972."
Ayers states: "There's something about a good bomb … Night after night, day after day, each majestic scene I witnessed was so terrible and so unexpected that no city would ever again stand innocently fixed in my mind. Big buildings and wide streets, cement and steel were no longer permanent. They, too, were fragile and destructible. A torch, a bomb, a strong enough wind, and they, too, would come undone or get knocked down."
All told, Ayers and Weatherman were responsible for 30 bombings aimed at destroying the defense and security infrastructures of the U.S. "I don't regret setting bombs, said Ayers in 2001, "I feel we didn't do enough."
The bombings mainly targetted property, but in 1970, Ayers' then-girlfriend Diana Oughton, along with Weatherman members Terry Robbins and Ted Gold, were killed when a large bomb they were constructing exploded unexpectedly. That bomb had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plan been successfully executed. Ayers attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, "tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too."
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I'm not trying to smack you here Plant, but the text you copied is replete with contextual misrepresentations.
The guy was inarguably radical - it doesn't need to be exagerated. The book is self described fiction. The two conjoined quotes taken to mean "I regret not blowing up more sh*t," is a coulterism.
Let him stand on his own. He's a self desccribed homosexual left-wing, violent radical communist. Did I miss anything? :D
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'Y')ou left out the terrorist bomber part of it. There is no need to leave it out----Bill Ayers is proud of his part in the Weathermen's terror bombing campaign.
A substantial portion of Ayers' book Fugitive Days discusses the author's joy in building and deploying explosives. Ayers boasts that he "participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972."
Ayers states: "There's something about a good bomb … Night after night, day after day, each majestic scene I witnessed was so terrible and so unexpected that no city would ever again stand innocently fixed in my mind. Big buildings and wide streets, cement and steel were no longer permanent. They, too, were fragile and destructible. A torch, a bomb, a strong enough wind, and they, too, would come undone or get knocked down."
All told, Ayers and Weatherman were responsible for 30 bombings aimed at destroying the defense and security infrastructures of the U.S. "I don't regret setting bombs, said Ayers in 2001, "I feel we didn't do enough."
The bombings mainly targetted property, but in 1970, Ayers' then-girlfriend Diana Oughton, along with Weatherman members Terry Robbins and Ted Gold, were killed when a large bomb they were constructing exploded unexpectedly. That bomb had been intended for detonation at a dance that was to be attended by army soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plan been successfully executed. Ayers attested that the bomb would have done serious damage, "tearing through windows and walls and, yes, people too."
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