[Benzin]

Greetings all. For some reason, I always end up lurking around this forum even when I say I'll never stop by again.

Anyways, why do some people here hate Star Trek so much?

It's called science FICTION for a reason. I don't know if it's known or not, but the Star Trek universe wasn't oh so great with Picard crusin' in the latest enterprise.

If I remember correctly, there were a lot of wars and much of the world and population was destroyed in WWIII. It wasn't all fun and games with lots of technology to save the day.

Now I question how society could theoretically bounce back so quick and immediately go to space, but I suppose in some dimension it could be possible. Okay, so the lack of cheap oil didn't destroy the Star Trek earth, but even that Rodenberry guy knew progress is not all forward and progressive.

Ever see the scenes on Earth in the movies? These big time captains lived in pretty humble digs. I didn't see much technology. Kirk's apartment, his house in Idaho, Picard's dream house which looked like something out of the 19th century. Things were pretty modest, probably cause most resources were used for war and other stupid human behavior in the past.

You can make the point that these were movies that didn't have huge budgets and they were made in a time when tech wasn't so ingrained in our society but it seems to me they were right on to how people would live on EARTH in the future (I'm not talking about the starships). What about those episodes when the technology failed or breaked down? Didn't Scotty always jury rig things?

Okay, I'll admit, Star Trek is a pretty optimistic view of the future. But they didn't get that over night. They skipped about 200 hundred years, remember? And like I said, this is FICTION. Nothing that will resemble our reality. Besides, everything shown in Star Trek is within the realm of theoretical possibility - just not for us.

Perhaps if humans weren't they way they are and if it weren't for this little peak oil mess... maybe we could at least make it to Mars. But alas, we wasted so much.

Anways, now that I declared how much of a nerd I am I will quietly go back to lurking.

Carry on, y'all. Carry on.

[Novus]

I loved Star Trek when I was a kid but the reason there is so much hate for it is that it makes people overly optimistic about the long term future of mankind. It encourages some of our brightest students to to go into the space sciences when there are so many other problems right here on Earth that need addressing such as climate change and resource depletion. Humanity is marked for extiction if we don't change our ways.

[lateralus]

Klingons are cool. Spam is not. (Trekkies are a strange lot though)

[Doly]

It isn't the optimism what I dislike of Star Trek, it's the aesthetics! (or lack thereof).

[oowolf]

The show is a space-western. The old cowboys-killing-Indians crap all tinseled up with gee-whiz militaristic goldplated weapons and threatening aliens. Eating atrtificial food in a self-enclosed fortress of ever-expanding techno-empire in a universe populated with ugly caricatures of humans.

John Zerzan-the anarchist- wrote a devastingly funny essay about how despicable this show was.

[Falconoffury]

Star Trek Deep Space 9 is my favorite TV series of all time. It wasn't because of the technology, but the quality of the story and characters. I loved the character interaction, character development over time, political intrigue, moral issues, the script, everything. It was an epic storyline that truly evolved over time.

[rwwff]

Why? -> Faster than light.

Thats all the reason I need.

[Cerberus]

Why no Arabs on star trek?

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cerberus', 'W')hy no Arabs on star trek?

[oowolf]

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[rwwff]

When watching the TV, me and mine often yell out, "don't wear the red shirt!"

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'S')tar Trek Deep Space 9 is my favorite...

[Falconoffury]

TNG was a bit too cornucopian until they hit the borg. The characters are also not as strong as in DS9.

[evilmonkeyspanker]

I know most fans won't agree, but I grew to love Enterprise.

[pup55]

Season 3 Episode 11

T'pol: Interesting... An internal combustion vehicle. Didn't these people realize their hydrocarbon deposits were in delpletion?

Archer: They had known about the problem for 30 years but had not done anything about it. But then, in 2062.... (cut off in mid sentence by communicator)

[Omnitir]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cerberus', 'W')hy no Arabs on star trek?

[sciencegirl]

When The next Generation first aired I was in high school. It was my favorite show. I was hopeful for the future and thought humankind was great and that we have a great future a head of us.

I am now 33, and have come to realize that the Gene Roddenbury future will never come to be. WHY ? Because only about half of the human population is what I would consider great. The other half of the people are idiots, who are set in their ways and seem to care more about their pocket book then they do other people. Then you have about 10% of the population who only care about power and controlling others, that and 90% of the population that believes everything the media says makes for a deadly combination.

I love Star Trek but I am more a fan of the Borg, cause they are the only ones who seem to make any sense.

[doomed]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e need more optimistic visions of what humanity can be, not less of them.