No, really... This is a serious question. I was first introduced to the whole "peak oil" thing back in 2006 when I accidentally bumped into Matt Savinar's LOTAC website while searching for articles on population overshoot. It scared the crap out of me and well from there the rest was history. Like most people on here I read up on as much about Peak Oil and the likes as I could get my hands on.. Joined a couple of Peak Oil forums (including this one) and got banned by an admin or two.. but overall it was all cool and a great experience...
Savinar's site was number one on Google whenever anyone did a search for "Peak Oil" or even just the keyword "oil"... Some politicians and businessmen were taking him very seriously. And Matthew Simmons, basically a dude who read a couple of books and reports on energy, oil and stuff like that then self-proclaimed himself as an insider industry "expert" and started p****** out advice (and doom) to whomever would listen.. Anyway, the going was good, as they say. Michael Ruppert had proclaimed Savinar as his "comrade in arms" and LOTAC was being w***** by a few congressman on the senate floor as the true roadmap to the future.. Those days I tell you, was truly peak oil heaven. That was the peak of peak oil.. and then came the dieoff...
But what the heck happened? What happened?
Text deleted-libelous and Michael Ruppert claimed bankruptcy (that or the secret CIA agent "SALT" woman was after him! ) then he packed up his gear and left the country in a furry. Vowed to be a "citizen of the world" and "permanent goodbye to the United States". What did Ruppert expect? That Venezuelan President would make him his energy advisor? So after a couple of months the dude developed nearly fatal fever and comes crawling back to the United States (somewhere in New York to be more exact) So much for a "permanent goodbye". He even declared United States as his enemy to "burn his bridges" and never look back.. Well so much for being all the too self important. Methinks the CIA had more realistic targets to go after...
So adsense and amazon affiliate revenues weren't doing too well for this lawyer turned JurisDoctorofDoom Mr. "I don't drive a car nomoz" person and after being abandoned by his "comrade in arms "Text deleted-libelous Except, no one bought him up on his offer.. What he planned to ride the "peak oil" wave to riches with LATOC on time as petro climbed to $300USD a barrel? That never happened so the populous interest in peak oil waned and along with it his advertising income revenue streams... all vanished.
Then we hear Simmons simmered out on us in a bathtub, or was it a swimming pool? Must have been the stress from the BP predictions about needing a nuke to stop the leak.. and his bad investments gone sulfuric. Either way all this time the dude was predicting the End was Nigh and yet HIS end came before any and all of it. He should have forgotten about all this bigger picture crap and just enjoyed life.. would definitely have served him better. The irony would be funny if it wasn't so sad..
Wasn't Katrina supposed to be the break up of America? Hey BP spill was supposed to cause some huge doom on epic proportions.. and the North Korea crap was going to start War World III.
Kunstler rants about the s*** hitting the fan every single week. Yeah he might be right one of these days, but I've stopped counting...
And low and behold, Matt abandoned his sheeple and cut lifesupport from this doomer.us forum and did an about face, reverse 180 and into some quackery astrologists pseudo black magic, abracadabra hocus pocus psychobabble.
Meanwhile gas is at $3.00+ again, round two of quantitative easing is being commenced and along with it the demand destruction of much of the third world.. Sure the s*** is hitting the fan at slow motion, but we still gots plenty of coal and even oil left and I fully expect to be here on the Internets even in 2012.... As of now, I'm leaning towards the EIA predictions.
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What happened to the Peak Oil movement?
What happened to the Peak Oil movement?
by teotwawki » Wed 09 Feb 2011, 14:45:01
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Re: What happened to the Peak Oil movement?
by TheDude » Wed 09 Feb 2011, 15:33:12
From Life of Brian:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')RANCIS: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
REG: He's over there.
P.F.J.: Splitter!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')RANCIS: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
REG: He's over there.
P.F.J.: Splitter!
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Re: What happened to the Peak Oil movement?
by americandream » Wed 09 Feb 2011, 15:48:29
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('teotwawki', 'N')o, really... This is a serious question.
Their analysis of this one commodity issue failed to take account of the contemporary realities of a rapidly globalising capitalism. I have been on the forum since the early days and have been advising a more analytical look at capitalism and a realistic timeline that will ultimately see it come up against all of it's inherent contradictions.
The canary will be the markets and a flight from risk, which will be inescapably obvious. In addition, regionalism will make a swift return as the various regions seek to protect their interests. In addition, the will be very public brawls over who gets preferential access to the remaining commodities and of course, the rise of regional xenophobia.
However, the globalisation process will have given rise to a culture with it's own momentum and dynamics. We may either slide into worldwide collapse or a more muted form of modernity. Even collapse will have it's own resolution as out of disorder, must arise order.
My thoughts are that we are looking at mid century for the globalisation process to have exhausted much of the surplus still available in the low wage economies. Along with costly oil, this will herald the end of accumulation as we have known it for the past 500 years.
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Re: What happened to the Peak Oil movement?
by eXpat » Wed 09 Feb 2011, 15:49:49
There´s no such a thing as a peak oil movement, there´s just a group of people that has realized that the substance that moves our society and even civilization is running out and that said civilization is based on it, so as it gets scarce, life gets harder and harder till it goes back to where it was before the oil bonanza, since it cannot be sustained without the black stuff that comes from deep holes in the earth.
That question is either very naive, since browsing in this website will give you the answer, or trolling.
That question is either very naive, since browsing in this website will give you the answer, or trolling.
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Re: What happened to the Peak Oil movement?
by Xenophobe » Wed 09 Feb 2011, 19:57:54
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('teotwawki', 'N')o, really... This is a serious question. I was first introduced to the whole "peak oil" thing back in 2006 when I accidentally bumped into Matt Savinar's LOTAC website while searching for articles on population overshoot. It scared the crap out of me and well from there the rest was history. Like most people on here I read up on as much about Peak Oil and the likes as I could get my hands on.. Joined a couple of Peak Oil forums (including this one) and got banned by an admin or two.. but overall it was all cool and a great experience...
Sounds like the peak oil movement pulled you in exactly as expected. It's SUPPOSED to scare the crap out of you, it's about all it's good for,
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')And low and behold, Matt abandoned his sheeple and cut lifesupport from this doomer.us forum and did an about face, reverse 180 and into some quackery astrologists pseudo black magic, abracadabra hocus pocus psychobabble.
He did the world a HUGE favor though. He exposed, from the inside, the religious/psycho/fanatical aspects of his group, the largest on the internet (by his claim) and the most popular as you've noted by googling. Other have commented on the resemblance to the peak oil movement to a religion, Matt confirmed it from an absolute insiders perspective, a brother in arms to Ruppert, an original Prophet of Peak. Probably the most honest thing he ever said during his "peak oil profiteering" phase as well.
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