by Carlhole » Wed 09 Sep 2009, 17:17:59
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', 'T')he real universe is so amazingly wonderful and fantastic. Why do you have to cloud your understanding of it with superstitious, astrological, wooful nonsense?
Nonsense? The Zodiac signs are well known and used in astronomy.
The zodiac is nonsense for people with childlike minds.
You ruin a perfectly good science thread by posting that rubbish in it.
by vision-master » Wed 09 Sep 2009, 18:36:23
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', 'T')he real universe is so amazingly wonderful and fantastic. Why do you have to cloud your understanding of it with superstitious, astrological, wooful nonsense?
Nonsense? The Zodiac signs are well known and used in astronomy.
The zodiac is nonsense for people with childlike minds.
You ruin a perfectly good science thread by posting that rubbish in it.
Good science?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')lthough the zodiac remains the basis of the ecliptic coordinate system in use in astronomy besides the equatorial one, the term and the names of the twelve signs are today mostly associated with horoscopic astrology.
It is important to distinguish the zodiacal signs from the constellations associated with them, not only because of their drifting apart due to the precession of equinoxes but also because the physical constellations by nature of their varying shapes and forms take up varying widths of the ecliptic. Thus, Virgo takes up fully five times as much ecliptic longitude as Scorpius. The zodiacal signs, on the other hand, are an abstraction from the physical constellations designed to represent exactly one twelfth of the full circle each, or the longitude traversed by the Sun in about 30.4 days.[13]
There have always been a number of "parazodiacal" constellations which are also touched by the paths of the planets. The MUL.APIN lists Orion, Perseus, Auriga and Andromeda. Furthermore, there are a number of constellations mythologically associated with the zodiacal ones: Piscis Austrinus, The Southern Fish, is attached to Aquarius. In classical maps it swallows the stream poured out of Aquarius' pitcher, but perhaps it formerly just swam in it. Aquila, The Eagle, was possibly associated with the zodiac by virtue of its main star, Altair. Hydra in the Early Bronze Age marked the celestial equator and was associated with Leo, which is shown standing on the serpent on the Dendera zodiac. Corvus is the Crow or Raven mysteriously perched on the tail of Hydra. The MUL.APIN glosses Hydra as "the Snake Ningizzida, lord of the Netherworld". Ningizzida together with Dumuzi (Aries) and Pabilsag (Sagittarius) governed the household of the queen of the underworld.
Taking the current constellation boundaries as defined in 1930 by the International Astronomical Union, the ecliptic itself passes through an additional thirteenth constellation, Ophiuchus, situated between Scorpius and Sagittarius. This is already recognized in Ptolemy's Almagest.
by rangerone314 » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 17:15:34
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hen... it follows that there is some sort of potentially limitless energy that smart-enough creatures could eventually tap into... perhaps. Maybe only sci-fi now but it illustrates how little is known about the Universe.
Who could possibly argue that there are no more really great discoveries that could fundamentally change the world?
How about that we are in a binary solar system and Sirius may be our 'dog' star (twin sun).
Ummm... according to my recollection (since I programmed real astrological data into a Star Trek simulator), Sirius is about 8 light years away from us.
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by kpeavey » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 18:57:08
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')he zodiac is nonsense for people with childlike minds.
You ruin a perfectly good science thread by posting that rubbish in it.
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by copious.abundance » Mon 30 Nov 2009, 00:14:28
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')hen... it follows that there is some sort of potentially limitless energy that smart-enough creatures could eventually tap into... perhaps. Maybe only sci-fi now but it illustrates how little is known about the Universe.
Limitless energy? No way man - don't you know the universe is finite? We'll just replace Peak Oil with Peak Dark Energy.

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