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THE WWII Thread (merged)
by lorenzo » Mon 09 May 2005, 11:53:36
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BiGG', 'N')obody was dirtier
You are forgetting the fact that the USA has been in bed with the Nazis until well into the war. Let's also not forget who financed Adolf Hitler's NSDAP: it was Americans like Prescott Bush, Henry Ford, and lots of American Jewish Bankers.
Let's not make this a tirade of who supported Hitler most. One thing is certain, though, the Catholic Church has formally condemned Hitler and nazism before the war broke out, the Protestants have not.
(Yesterday, when Bush was in the Netherlands, all of us Europeans saw the documentaries about how the Americans financed Hitler and made it possible for him to come to power. I know the story about Bush's family capital coming from Hitler, is getting boring, but it is the historic record. Without Adolf Hitler, there would be no right wing neo-nazi in the White House today. And without Prescott Bush and his American friends, there wouldn't have been an Adolf Hitler in Europe.
We've all seen the documentaries over the past few days. Shocking, truly shocking.)
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by jaakkeli » Mon 09 May 2005, 12:01:09
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'Y')ou are forgetting the fact that the USA has been in bed with the Nazis until well into the war.
And you're conveniently forgetting that the Russians were Nazi allies and they started the war together with the Germans by invading several completely innocent countries, before finally having a big fight-out between themselves.
There's no way you can bash the Americans for having some businessmen who co-operated with the Nazis and completely ignore the fact that at the same time Russia allied with the Nazis to start the whole f***ng war. Not to mention the fact that Russia, too, was headed by a brutal dictator that had already slaughtered even his own people by millions.
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by lorenzo » Mon 09 May 2005, 12:05:39
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jaakkeli', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'Y')ou are forgetting the fact that the USA has been in bed with the Nazis until well into the war.
And you're conveniently forgetting that the Russians were Nazi allies and they started the war together with the Germans by invading several completely innocent countries, before finally having a big fight-out between themselves.
There's no way you can bash the Americans for having some businessmen who co-operated with the Nazis and completely ignore the fact that at the same time Russia allied with the Nazis to start the whole f***ng war. Not to mention the fact that Russia, too, was headed by a brutal dictator that had already slaughtered even his own people by millions.
Oh but I'd have no problem in bashing both the Americans and the Russians. But it's the Americans who think they were cleaner than the rest, while they were obviously not.
Stalin was a tyrant, but he didn't kill "millions" of his own people, certainly not in the 1930s. He eliminated political opponents by the hundreds, not by the millions. I agree, he was a madman. But still a madman who destroyed a bigger madman - for which he must be credited.
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