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THE Walmart Thread pt 2 (merged)

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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby crude_intentions » Fri 29 Apr 2011, 14:01:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FranklySpeaking', 'W')ho do you guys think were the worst unAmerican predators - Exxon and her six sisters?


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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby Lore » Fri 29 Apr 2011, 14:25:28

I blame the people who have let themselves be relabeled consumers rather then citizens.
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby Fishman » Fri 29 Apr 2011, 14:26:59

HEY, THE MESSAGE, THE MESSAGE, NOT THE MESSENGER, FOLKS. Walmart, smalmart, substitute whatever large distributer, small distributer, mom/pop shop. lemonaide stand down the road. Focus on the message people. A major retailer says their customers are running out of money. ANY comments on that message?
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby mos6507 » Fri 29 Apr 2011, 14:51:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nefarious', '
')Damn Moss you don't remember that? It was back in the eighties. I remember the tv commercials. I think the slogan was "check the label" or "I checked the label" something like that.


Wal-mart wasn't in the northeast in the 80s.

The made in the USA thing that I remember had nothing to do with Wal-mart. It was an independent phenomenon. And before everything was made in China, it was made in Japan, before Wal-Mart even became what it is today. We ceded cars and consumer electronics back in the 70s. This has been going on for a looong time and is not some invention of Wal-mart.
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby Pops » Fri 29 Apr 2011, 14:59:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'F')ocus on the message people. A major retailer says their customers are running out of money. ANY comments on that message?

There is no message fish, wally has been down 8 straight quarters, no one here save 1 or 2 perhaps are surprised in the least.

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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby Pops » Fri 29 Apr 2011, 15:02:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'W')almart is already deploying smaller format storesin urban and hard-to-build areas, which, if I may suggest, is a return to the "Humpty Dumpty" hodgepodge of stores that dotted cities during the early 1900s.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')anagement has indicated that future Wal-Mart stores will occupy 8% less space, cost 16% less and will run more efficiently.

Read more: http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2011-0 ... z1KwGC0ArH
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby dinopello » Fri 29 Apr 2011, 15:13:33

What would be interesting is to study all the stuff people buy in the 1930's and compare to now. Obviously we have more gadgets to consume, but even if you looked at stuff that was common - clothes, and maybe some simple appliances (stoves, blenders, coffee makers toasters waffle irons, whatever) - is Walmart's cheapo, inexpensive stuff cheaper in the long run ? My Mom still has her sewing machine from the 1940's. The crap you buy at "super low prices" these days wear out and break and you throw it away. Last year at the beach, a friend bought 2 cheapo plastic inflatable raft for his kids. By the end of the FIRST DAY of use, both had popped their seams and were in the trash. What a bargain. No wonder everyone is out of money. Shopping is an addiction and I guess cheapo stuff that breaks just feeds that addiction.
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby the48thronin » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 18:10:29

The message response.

Start by deciding who are the paid once a month "CORE SHOPPERS." I brought this point up when the article was discussed on the afternoon radio show and was immediately scolded by a teacher in Texas because he was paid once a month. I asked him how many people were on Social security and how many were receiving food stamps and which categories did he think the Walmart CEO was referring to as "core shoppers".

My reason to discuss the article at all was the "higher prices for fresh foods so that they could discount electronics...." and my own view that "core shoppers" referred to food stamp recipients and SS recipients not teachers.
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby MontrealMichelle » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 21:55:40

I agree fully with Lore. We can blame ourselves for abandoning our duties as citizens and allowing others to manipulate us as mere consumers. But unless people are willing to pick up guns and launch a coup, the next best thing are class action law suits (A suggestion from my husband - a judge). People only respond when others seek massive damages in a law suit. Then they really pay attention, and with enough publicity - so do others.

Yeah the message is right on target - America is broke. But I am more interested in a solution - a redistribution of wealth in America. How can it be accomplished?
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby Cloud9 » Sat 30 Apr 2011, 22:13:45

Walmart is suffering from margin compression. Commodities are reacting to a hundred billion a month being flushed into the system backed up by real scarcities. Walmart exploded on the scene riding a wave slave labor in China and cheap energy costs. Cheap energy is a thing of the past. If oil peaked in 05, within a decade the economies will look more like the 19th century than the 20th.
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby eXpat » Sun 01 May 2011, 09:14:35

Trying to rise their margins a bit I see
Wal-Mart brings guns back
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')EW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Wal-Mart said Thursday that it is bringing guns back to many of its U.S. stores in an effort to lift slumping sales.

In 2006, Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500), the world's largest retailer stopped selling guns in the majority of its stores, blaming slow demand for those types of firearms.
Wal-Mart currently sells rifles, shotguns and ammunition in about 1,300 stores in the United States.

Those firearms will now be available at about half of Wal-Mart's 4,000 stores.

The retailer doesn't sell handguns in any of its stores, other than in Alaska.
Wal-Mart's ready to do battle

After suffering seven straight quarters of falling sales, Wal-Mart says that it is adding more merchandise variety to stores and becoming more aggressive on prices versus its competitors.

Reintroducing guns is part of the retailer's push, Wal-Mart spokesman Lorenzo Lopez said.

Lopez said Wal-Mart is focusing on stores in areas where hunting and fishing are popular activities.

'We realized there is broader appeal for guns in some areas because of sporting needs," said Lopez.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/28/news/companies/walmart_guns/index.htm
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby vision-master » Sun 01 May 2011, 09:23:03

No Frigging handguns? WTF! Wally World, you can fook off. :wink:
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby eXpat » Sun 01 May 2011, 09:29:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'N')o Frigging handguns? WTF! Wally World, you can fook off. :wink:

Well, you can´t have it all! :)
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby Cloud9 » Sun 01 May 2011, 09:31:20

Here in central Florida Walmart has always sold long guns. They don't sell anything that politically incorrect like AKs or ARs but they do sell a reasonable sampling of hunting rifles and shotguns.
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby Pops » Sun 01 May 2011, 10:32:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'W')almart exploded on the scene riding a wave slave labor in China and cheap energy costs.

The worst thing is that Walton's idea was much simpler and earlier; low overhead, low margins, big volume, no competition.
Waltons 5 & 10 opened in the early '50s pre-dating cheap Chinese and Japanese products, come to think of it, he could well be credited with their success.
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby dolanbaker » Sun 01 May 2011, 14:38:19

Only in the US would a supermarket sell guns! :roll:
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby vision-master » Sun 01 May 2011, 14:44:44

Got my AK-47 in a gas station from a town of less than 100 pl. :)

Too bad we only can get the fake semi-auto ones now.
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby Cloud9 » Sun 01 May 2011, 14:59:43

Full auto is over rated.
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Re: Walmart CEO: shoppers are out of money, there is no reco

Postby Keith_McClary » Sun 01 May 2011, 18:03:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dolanbaker', 'O')nly in the US would a supermarket sell guns! :roll:
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