[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')That is why you cannot just let it up to each individual.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')That is why you cannot just let it up to each individual.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('asg70', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '
')That is why you cannot just let it up to each individual.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '
')
You completely missed my point Ibon. I know that the self proclaimed Elites are in charge. My point is I don't trust ASG to be the one arbitrating what new group of elites should be put in charge in their place.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '
')
You completely missed my point Ibon. I know that the self proclaimed Elites are in charge. My point is I don't trust ASG to be the one arbitrating what new group of elites should be put in charge in their place.

[Ibon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', ' ')I vehemently disagree with his definition of who the new leaders should be .

[careinke]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', ' ')I vehemently disagree with his definition of who the new leaders should be .

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', ' ')I vehemently disagree with his definition of who the new leaders should be .

[evilgenius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', '
')
Still the problem is the solution, and until I can come up with something more effective, at least promoting this Documentary is a start. Abolish Ignorance.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', '
')What you have to do is put out a free version of social media that doesn't make its money from advertising. Then, see what the people choose in comparison. I'm not sure which they would pick. It would essentially be the same thing without the economic incentive for the companies to do wrong, but so many people harbor deep frustrations and lingering desire for violence. My ex brother in law couldn't go anywhere without his gun, he was so afraid. He loved to externalize the reasons why he was so afraid. He didn't look inside, except to find what it took to get to work. Alex Jones would still be on his homepage.

[ralfy]

Both political parties in the U.S., and likely various political leaders and parties in many countries, work for and with the rich. The same rich work with each other across countries.

They engage in all sorts of businesses, but one of the most profitable for them is financial speculation, which is made possible through more deregulation, and if they get into trouble, at least governments like those in the U.S. will bail them out with no obligations. That's what Bush and Obama did for them, and that's how rich men like Trump took advantage of all sorts of breaks, incentives, and loopholes.

Much of mainstream media in countries like the U.S. and various industries like food production and pharmaceuticals are controlled by a few corporations, with the same rich making up their top investors.

Top social media are also controlled by the rich, including "new money," and like mainstream media use platforms not only for advertising but also to collect information on users to sell to different groups, from political candidates to other businesses. The same goes for various commercial software, including operating systems and applications used in devices such as desktop computers and smart phones.

The same rich ("new money" or otherwise) want political leaders who are advantageous to them, and in the U.S. that means those who promote neo-conservatism (the use of the military equipped by a defense industry that's funded by the same rich through a military industrial complex and used to control other countries) and neo-liberalism (deregulation to allow the rich to engage in financial speculation and the use by government of onerous loan agreements and aid with strings attached to keep countries dependent on the U.S.).

At the same time, the rich want to make sure that there are enough distractions to keep people occupied so that they will eventually forget everything that I just described above. That includes using the same businesses, together with mainstream and social media, to entertain them plus show them all sorts of "breaking" news so that they will side with one political leader or party or the other. That's because both sides of opposing politicians work for them, anyway.

[evilgenius]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ralfy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', '
')What you have to do is put out a free version of social media that doesn't make its money from advertising. Then, see what the people choose in comparison. I'm not sure which they would pick. It would essentially be the same thing without the economic incentive for the companies to do wrong, but so many people harbor deep frustrations and lingering desire for violence. My ex brother in law couldn't go anywhere without his gun, he was so afraid. He loved to externalize the reasons why he was so afraid. He didn't look inside, except to find what it took to get to work. Alex Jones would still be on his homepage.

[ralfy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', '
')
I once toyed with the idea of making a telephone directory type listing of all of the businesses in my area. I was going to let each business take over its listing, if they wanted. Otherwise, it would be a standard info page. Then, if it worked, I could connect them to cheap online commerce, through some arrangement with a bank. I would make money from a cut of the commerce. I figured that could make money without having to gather information. The problem is that ever since Karl Rove discovered that gathering information works we can't ever go back. There will always be a demand for it. People who don't have an inner thing to stop them won't stop, unless they are forced. And people are not careful with their information either. They trust a site simply because it has a bunch of "friends" on it. It's too easy to go there.