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Re: Saddam's defence

Postby Jake_old » Wed 19 Oct 2005, 15:54:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')resident Jalal Talabani has announced that he will not sign a death warrant for Saddam. The Kurds are relectant to piss off the Sunnis.


Are the Kurds reluctant to piss off the sunnis? I would have thought they'd love to do that. Takes all sorts to make a world as they say.

I heard that about Talabani, but the warrant could be signed by someone else, i think, not sure and don't have a link.

I wonder what he's thinking right now :roll:
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Re: Saddam's defence

Postby Jake_old » Wed 19 Oct 2005, 15:57:31

Yes Free, gutted about the possible non dirt raking as well.
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Re: Saddam's defence

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 19 Oct 2005, 16:05:22

http://debka.com/ That's where I read it. The Kurds have a good thing going for them now. They don't want to upset the applecart is my guess.
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Re: Saddam's defence

Postby Omnitir » Wed 19 Oct 2005, 18:56:03

If it was truly a legitimate trial, then shouldn’t other nations also be tried for their involvement in Saddam’s atrocities? Why should Saddam answer to the charges against him, when for example, the U.S. doesn’t have to answer for setting up Saddam with a chemical weapons industry in the 80’s, or just generally encouraging unrest in the region?

If it was really justice they were after, then those that created the monster should also be on trial.
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Re: Saddam's defence

Postby rogerhb » Wed 19 Oct 2005, 19:36:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Omnitir', 'I')f it was really justice they were after, then those that created the monster should also be on trial.


How is Slobodan Milosovic trial doing anyway, he wanted to drag in the western cronies as well.
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Re: Saddam's defence

Postby Jake_old » Fri 21 Oct 2005, 07:44:29

Slobadon's case is international, but he still disputed the courts legitimacy.

One of Saddam's associates defence lawyers shot in the head, fair trial?

here

He's got 12 left now.
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Re: Saddam's defence

Postby DarkDawg » Fri 21 Oct 2005, 10:14:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ne of Saddam's associates defence lawyers shot in the head


Kill ALL the lawyers! :razz:
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Re: Saddam's defence

Postby Keith_McClary » Sat 29 Oct 2005, 02:47:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedJake', '
')This is the best bit.....

He was the head of state at the time and therefor he is immune from prosecution. WTF 8O . If he gets away with that then it doesn't matter a bit what he did while in power.
Bush claims the same immunity. He could not safely travel outside the US without it.
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Re: Saddam's defence

Postby Jake_old » Tue 08 Nov 2005, 10:12:34

da da dum dum dum

another one bites the dust

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The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby Heineken » Sat 04 Nov 2006, 14:32:36

. . . just two days before the US midterm elections is highly questionable, no??
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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby AgentR » Sat 04 Nov 2006, 14:37:53

No more so than the release of the Foley material. Politicians often can't control the content of events, but they can have an impact on the timing of events. So they structure them to have the greatest impact.

Otherwise, we would have learned about Foley in June. Saddam would have been sitting in jail awaiting execution, and the people would have largely forgotten about both.
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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby Zardoz » Sat 04 Nov 2006, 14:43:35

It's just a big god-damned game isn't it?

However, this could, like everything else in Iraq, backfire and blow right up in the Neocons' faces. Sure, it would seem that a death-penalty verdict for that asshole might be a feather in Bushcheneyrummy's soiled, tattered cap, but it may also result in an orgy of violence perpetrated by the Sunni/Baathist insurgents.

The media may be filled with headlines Monday about a major bloodbath. This will not help the Republican cause.
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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby AgentR » Sat 04 Nov 2006, 14:48:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'S')ure, it would seem that a death-penalty verdict for that asshole might be a feather in Bushcheneyrummy's soiled, tattered cap, but it may also result in an orgy of violence perpetrated by the Sunni/Baathist insurgents.


Sounds like a double win.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he media may be filled with headlines Monday about a major bloodbath. This will not help the Republican cause.


Have the Democrats suddently found a way to get 60 seats in the Senate? Without that, they will be a crippled paper-tiger; unable to wipe their own behinds.

The violence would largely be irrelevant. It'd annoy the people that are already highly annoyed. They aren't changing their votes because of the violence. Could help with motivating the right; though they typically don't need THAT much motivation to show up and vote.
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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby green_achers » Sat 04 Nov 2006, 19:55:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'H')ave the Democrats suddently found a way to get 60 seats in the Senate? Without that, they will be a crippled paper-tiger; unable to wipe their own behinds.

The violence would largely be irrelevant. It'd annoy the people that are already highly annoyed. They aren't changing their votes because of the violence. Could help with motivating the right; though they typically don't need THAT much motivation to show up and vote.


So the Dems and Repugs will both be paper tigers. Sounds like the best possible result to me.

The violence would probably serve to accent the disgust more and more of the US public have with the whole mess in Iraq. Add the Army Times call for Rumsfeld to resign, the Haggard affair, and Ney's resignation, I think the righties could be pretty demoralized.
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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby AgentR » Sat 04 Nov 2006, 21:05:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('green_achers', 'S')o the Dems and Repugs will both be paper tigers. Sounds like the best possible result to me.


More than a few people think that way. The best runs we've had were with a Democrat president and a strongly Republican congress. Reagan and the Democrats spent to much money
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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby Heineken » Mon 06 Nov 2006, 09:59:31

Well, it looks as though the maneuver of announcing a verdict on Saddam two days before the midterm elections is working. It's dominating the news and there's a strong shift back to the GOP, as noted in today's Washington Post. My guess now is that the Dems end up narrowly controlling the House but still don't win over the Senate. Not that it matters either way.

Shows you how "independent" Iraq's puppet government actually is.
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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby mekrob » Mon 06 Nov 2006, 11:05:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '.') . . just two days before the US midterm elections is highly questionable, no??


WTF? Do you really have to ask that question?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y guess now is that the Dems end up narrowly controlling the House but still don't win over the Senate.


Cough, cough. Diebold. Cough.

These past few weeks could be enough to make it tight all over the nation with the exception of a few places, tight enough that fraud could/will sway it to the GOP.
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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby Dreamtwister » Mon 06 Nov 2006, 11:07:27

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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby Zardoz » Mon 06 Nov 2006, 11:24:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', '.')..Cough, cough. Diebold. Cough...

That's what it'll be all about. The only question is how pervasive the fraud will be.
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Re: The Timing of the Saddam Trial Verdict

Postby AgentR » Mon 06 Nov 2006, 11:27:53

Well, the most harmless and useful permutation for the Republicans would be a 10-15 seat margin for the Democrats in the House, and a 51/49 margin for the Republicans in the Senate. In such a configuration, the Dems could really, really hurt themselves if they weren't very careful and very disciplined.
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