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Re: i just swallowed the red pill! help!

Unread postby something_awfull » Mon 15 Aug 2005, 19:17:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'T')he shock wears off after a little while and lots of people go from total doomers to bumpy landing-ers and sometimes even all the way to smooth landing-ers.
If you now had the chance to take the blue pill and not know about PO, would you? Knowing is better than know knowing.


Yeah, Just keep away from those MadMax films until your've calmed down a bit :)
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Re: i just swallowed the red pill! help!

Unread postby AmericanEmpire » Tue 16 Aug 2005, 15:50:32

$250,000 in assets and not debt? You got it made.
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Re: i just swallowed the red pill! help!

Unread postby lo_fi » Wed 17 Aug 2005, 01:25:44

The_red_pill wrote:

“I have felt a strange feeling since a child and have always somehow known that the future was in dire jeopardy.”

“Seeing oil hit nearly $67 today just reaffirms the faith that I have found "Peak oil" much like some find "Jesus".

“My next challenge in this quest for persistence will be to convince my wife of what is happening and begin to plan the move. She will have difficulty in swallowing this pill and I am very nervous of what may happen if she doesn't buy in to PO.”

“I do not fear losing oil, what I fear is losing my loved ones and the structure of a civilization that may be lost.”

“In some sense, I feel alive for the first time again, for I will have the chance to reconnect with my past (I was raised on a gentleman farm) and begin to concentrate on the important things of human life: relationships, love, sharing and real accomplishment.”



To which I say...
... maybe I'm out of line here, but if you don't fear losing oil, but do fear losing loved ones, and civilization 'structure', is there something not awry in losing connection with your wife, so that you can reconnect with your past, and (only then?!) begin to concentrate on the 'important things in life: relationships, love, sharing and real accomplishment?'

I mean, what is stopping you from focusing on the important things first? The story goes like this: A wise man gathers his pupils and fills a jar with large rocks. He asks his students if the jar is full, to which they reply affirmatively. The wise man then proceeds to pour small pebbles into the jar, which settle between the gaps created by the stones. Asked again whether the jar is full, the students’ answers now vary. The wise man then proceeds to pour sand into the jar, followed by water. Only then is the jar completely full. The wise man asks the students how this applies to time management. Bewildered, they reply that it doesn’t. Ah, but it does, he explains. If you don’t start with the big rocks first, you’ll never fit them in. Translated, if you don’t complete your big tasks first, you’ll never “fit them in,” or complete them. You can fit the smaller tasks in around the big ones, so start with the big ones.

My point being, that a strong loving relationship lived in *the present* will do a lot more for weathering losses than most physical preparation ever can. If I were you I'd start with my wife, not in trying to get her to 'buy in' or 'swallow a pill'- because that doesn't sound pleasant for either of you- not to mention its risky. I'd work on constructing something stable with which you both can grow, and share.
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Re: i just swallowed the red pill! help!

Unread postby the_red_pill » Thu 18 Aug 2005, 13:02:49

Thank you for all of your insight and posts. I am well on my way to making changes in my life. I spoke with my wife about PO and showed her all the data. Not only was she not surprised nor shocked, she said "What took you so long?" to see the materialism of this world is destroying our future.

We are planning to make significant changes in our lives over the next few months. I am feeling the wave of panic leaving now and feeling very fortunate to have swallowed the red pill much, much sooner than later.

Although the whole picture is very bleak, I am excited to make changes that may make our future a little brighter for a little while longer.

Here's food for thought: I have begun to think of things that I will enjoy watch disappearing over the next few years. First on the list: demise of professional sports. We have wasted so much on watching stupid games that have no point on the real meaning of life. Second of the list: all golf courses grass turning brown b/c we can't afford to water it. Golf is one of the worst inventions created by man: it alone can account for tremendous depletion of land resources all over the world.

So off to my job now, I will be enjoying my good salary for a little while longer while hoarding every nickel we can. But we are working towards other changes to take place in the next 12 months. The sooner the better.
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Activities you have given up since taking the red pill...

Unread postby AmericanEmpire » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 01:26:38

One of the main things I have given up since learning about peak oil is wasting my Sunday's watching NASCAR racing. :lol:
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Collection of excellent 'red pill' documentaries

Unread postby VinceG » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 05:33:05

I don't know if this has been posted before, so I apologize in advance for any crossposting. I wanted to share a website which has some excellent and controversial documentaries which can be viewed online...

Please visit THIS site for some interesting video material!
"In the U.S., fears are so exaggerated and out of control that anxiety is the number-one mental health problem in the country.", Barry Glassner
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby Daculling » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 09:30:05

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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby Specop_007 » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 09:48:35

Zip. Zero. Nada.

Havent changed one damn thing, except to stock up a few essential supplies.
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Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."

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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby kelee877 » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 10:07:51

Zip. Zero. Nada

I hear you there..I have not giving up anything yet...I try to appear normal in this 2 street light town, but deep down inside I know TSWHT soon..I have tried to talk to people about things happening but they are closed minded about it..and have given up and just do my own thing..prep..prep and prep...
I have added more then taken away since I have discovered peak oil..my household has always been on a fine tight budget..and inventon is the Mother of necessity...
And this was a gradual type of change not a big overnighter... but there are many things I am willing to give up and will start these things come the next few months..
I have 3 tv,s in this house and have made arrangements to sell the large one.
disconnect the cable (same boring stuff on all the time),but keep the interenet for awhile
This computer..
I have purchased a smaller newer car, better on gas(more out of necessity then choice)
all small eletronics would be sold(would use this money to purchase more food)gamecube,playstation,stereo,s
I have borrowed a dehydartor and I am trying it out when I can.
Planted an indoor garden.
Reading and learning all that I can on survival.
Anything else that I can think of I will post later..

oh and p.s to bad this is Rusty,s last year ..go rusty go..use to be one my favorite past times on Sunday also..I only watched the Nextel(Winston) cup series...but lately I have been trying to get so much stuff ready that I only stop a watch it when I can...
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby Madpaddy » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 10:11:41

I'm trying to manage my sex life without using petroleum based lubricant
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby Specop_007 » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 11:07:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'I')'m trying to manage my sex life without using petroleum based lubricant


If you were good at sex, you wouldnt need the lubricant. She'd be wet n wild ready to go. :-D

Unless....You know....It isnt a her that your trying to get wet n wild. :shock:
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 12:17:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'I')'m trying to manage my sex life without using petroleum based lubricant


If you were good at sex, you wouldnt need the lubricant. She'd be wet n wild ready to go. :-D

Unless....You know....It isnt a her that your trying to get wet n wild. :shock:
Maybe its a it.
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 20:18:15

Driving a car.

I'm bike only and by my original plan should have rented a car a few times but have not.

I have taken a ride in an SUV to get my 2nd bike and a trailer, which I rode home. Taken a ride in an SUV with a neighbor to go pick up some parts and likewise to pick up some more parts a few days ago, in a pickup truck. Those three trips do-able by bike trailer, walking, etc just didn't feel like it. But so far no trips to the car-rental office either.

I do use petroleum based stuff on my bikes but Mother Earth does allow us some of that stuff, enough to keep us in chain lube and bike tires anyway.
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby Madpaddy » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 20:39:28

Spec, PMS, don't be cruel,

An Italian,Frenchman and Irishman are discussing their sexual technique.

Italian: "After I have made love to my wife, I massage her back with sweet smelling oils.
It drives her crazy.

Frenchman: " After I have made love to my wife,I kiss her from head to toe.
It drives her crazy.

Scotsman: " After I have made love to my wife, I wipe my dick on the curtains.
THAT drives her crazy.



Did you hear about the Irish newlyweds who sat up all night on their honeymoon waiting for their sexual relations to arrive?




Mick staggered home in the wee small hours after a heavy night out with his mates. When he woke up the next morning, he found he was in bed with the dog beside him in his wife's place.

"Glory be!" said Mick. " I must have been really drunk when I got home. I thought there was a lot of noise when I threw the dog out!"
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 20:56:28

His wife had been killed in an accident and the police were questioning Finnegan. "Did she say anything before she died?" asked the sergeant. "She spoke without interruption for about forty years," said the Finnegan.
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 21:03:37

Television
The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the old growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder. ~Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby Eli » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 21:15:43

I used to love looking at cars with lots of horse power. The new mustang cobra that is coming out for example, it has over 300 horses in it and does 0 to 60 in under 5 seconds. No all I am concerned with is gas mileage and cost of ownership. :oops:

Now I am thinking I would buy a scooter if SWMBO (she who must be obeyed) would let me. And I have looked into building an electric bike.
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 22:03:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'I') used to love looking at cars with lots of horse power. The new mustang cobra that is coming out for example, it has over 300 horses in it and does 0 to 60 in under 5 seconds. No all I am concerned with is gas mileage and cost of ownership. :oops:

Now I am thinking I would buy a scooter if SWMBO (she who must be obeyed) would let me. And I have looked into building an electric bike.


My Audi A2 does 0 to 60 km/h under 5 seconds with only 75 horses. It's yours for €9.500. PM me if you're interested. I'll even throw in a 3 pack of golf balls and a set of Elvis plates. Satisfaction guaranteed!

I've given up watching TV. Not because of PO though. Mainly because Sweden lost a world championship ice hockey game to Belarus a few years ago. Life can be cruel sometimes.
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby Specop_007 » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 22:04:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'I') used to love looking at cars with lots of horse power. The new mustang cobra that is coming out for example, it has over 300 horses in it and does 0 to 60 in under 5 seconds. No all I am concerned with is gas mileage and cost of ownership. :oops:

Now I am thinking I would buy a scooter if SWMBO (she who must be obeyed) would let me. And I have looked into building an electric bike.


WHAT?! :x

Try over 400, and that *has* to be underrated. I think fact is its gonna be close to if not over 5!

The engine is virtually a pull out from the Ford GT. In fact, it has the GT heads on it (Valued at about 3 grand alone!)
I'd bet good money if you give it a ECU upgrade you'd have over 5. Go with a pulley upgrade and ECU upgrade, you could potentially be looking at 6 or more. Thats a helluva lot of ponies for a $40,000 car with a couple hundred in upgrades.

Yeah, I've been looking at them too. :oops:


To the jokes above... :lol:
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Re: Activities you have given up since taking the red pill..

Unread postby Madpaddy » Thu 25 Aug 2005, 08:15:37

Antimatter,

That's not very romantic of you :P
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