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Re: OTC: $100 trillion needed to rebuild energy infrastructu

Unread postby cephalotus » Sun 11 May 2008, 21:32:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', '.').. the 16% unemployment rate in Germany,...

8,1% in April 2008. (would be nice if it would get lower lower, especially in East Germany)
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Storm Edouard threatens oil and gas rigs

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Re: Storm Edouard threatens oil and gas rigs

Unread postby pup55 » Mon 04 Aug 2008, 07:53:43

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I like to look at the wave heights.... at this buoy, which is east of the storm, there are 8 foot waves, every 7 seconds, which is pretty rough.

Pemex has been getting their people off of the platforms if the conditions reach this level. That helicopter ride in a storm like this is probably not a piece of cake either.
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Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby TheDude » Thu 11 Sep 2008, 02:39:20

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Best of luck to all members in the path of this storm. Do whatever it takes to keep out of harm's way. The 1900 Galveston hurricane was a killer precisely because no one had much of any advance warning.

Updates at many sites, these are my two favorites:

Weather Underground
Hurricane Ike, 2008 / Stormpulse / Track hurricanes, tracking, mapping

Rita era map of refineries/SPR sites:

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Big PDF from the MMS covering all infrastructure in the GOM: (Visual 1 .pdf)

TOD is running another series of threads on this storm, as they did with Gustav: Hurricane Ike and Oil Refineries/Infr astructure Thread #2 (9/10 16:30 EDT)

Houston Chronicle: Energy industry reprises actions taken for Gustav

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Port of Houston is closing tonight as Hurricane Ike approaches, most coastal refineries will make storm decisions today, and offshore energy facilities are extending precautions they took just a week ago for Hurricane Gustav.

The Barbours Cut and Bayport terminals will shut down at noon today, and the port will close to all vessel traffic at midnight, spokeswoman Argentina James said.

The Port's 25-mile-long complex is a hub in the nation's energy network.

Forecasts Wednesday evening projected Ike would come ashore Saturday between Corpus Christi and Galveston.

Port Freeport, about 65 miles south of Houston in a mandatory evacuation zone for Brazoria County, shut down early Wednesday afternoon and expects to reopen Monday, Chief Executive Pete Reixach said.

As vessel traffic declined, gasoline retailers were gearing up for a possible surge of evacuating motorists.

Motiva, a refining and retail gasoline joint venture between Shell Oil Co. and Saudi Arabia's state-owned Aramco, said in a prepared statement that its coastal service stations and refueling terminals were being stocked up in anticipation of higher demand.

Shell-branded stations also were setting up generators to keep pumps running in the case of a power outage.


WU has a page of storm surge risks for the TX coast. Looking at this collection of Texas Topographic Maps,the highest elevation for the Byran Mound SPR site (226 mb) is only 15 ft. Many of these surge estimates look likely to swamp the whole site, even with a Cat 2 landfall.

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The BP and Marathon Ashland refineries look equally fated to get swamped, even if the track is some distance away.

The site that provides those topo maps has some evacuation route charts up as well: PCL Map Collection.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Thu 11 Sep 2008, 07:54:01

And those who live at the "end of the pipeline" should also prepare in their own way. If the combination of extra consumption from people evac-ing plus the decreased production from infrastructure going off line could result in shortages in places far away from Ike, the upper midwest or the east coast for two places.

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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby patience » Thu 11 Sep 2008, 12:29:47

The Dude's link, below, has bad news about the probable storm surge from Ike, based on a new analysis method, called, oddly enough, IKE. Meaning Integrated Kinetic Energy method, of computing the effect on surge.

IKE2111

This model indicates a lot more surge than the basic Category rating would indicate, since Ike has an unusual wind structure, which covers a massive area. Bad news for oil country, it sounds like.

Just talked to an order clerk in San Antonio, who said they are expecting an influx of people to the area soon.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby TheDude » Thu 11 Sep 2008, 14:07:20

Rigzone: Direct Hit: Hurricane Ike Zeros in on Facilities and Rigs. This lists everything in Ike's path; Preparing for Ike to Strike has maps.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby joeltrout » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 12:07:12

One thing many people forget is how much production goes to Houston to be processed, both natural gas and oil.

For Example:

My father and brother work for an E&P company in SE New Mexico which operates in the western portion of the Permian Basin. They are shutting down more than 90% of their oil and natural gas production because it gets [s]shipped[/s] PIPED to Houston for production.

I have no idea how much oil and natural gas in the Permian Basin is piped to houston for processing but shutting down all those fields can play havoc on the reservoirs.

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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby frankthetank » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 12:21:17

This path has to be about worse case scenario.

Thanks for the links.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby TheDude » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 14:14:59

Jeff Masters had this to say:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he situation is grim for Port Arthur, Texas, on the Louisiana border. The expected storm surge of 15-20 feet will overtop the city's seawall by six feet, resulting in flooding of the city and a number of major oil refineries. Expect a significant tightening of gas supplies in coming months, due to extensive damage to the oil refineries in the Houston and Port Arthur area.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e can expect Ike to cause the largest and longest-lived power outage in Texas history, with power knocked out along a 200-mile wide swath in eastern Texas and extreme western Louisiana extending 300 miles inland to I-20. Dallas will be at the fringe of the region of widespread power outages, and should not suffer major power failures.


Ike's record storm surge pushing into Texas

This morning the Auger offshore platform recorded 99-108 mph winds - Cat 3.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 14:27:00

DOOMSDAY for many ppl.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby burtonridr » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 14:46:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '[')b]DOOMSDAY for many ppl.


Really?? huh, not how imagined it would feel :lol:
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby UncoveringTruths » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 15:28:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'T')his morning the Auger offshore platform recorded 99-108 mph winds - Cat 3.

Do you know if that was gust or sustained?


It was an elevated reading. I think 90 feet up or something along those lines.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 17:43:48

I'm looking at Flhurricane and some of the channels are reporting thick black smoke in Galveston, near the coast. I can't really follow what the issue is but some of the captions talk about oil spillage.

Okay, they're saying that the fire department can't get there due to flooding so they don't know what's burning.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 17:45:49

Okay, now they're saying a yacht is on fire ... :lol:

ETA: another station is saying it's at the yacht club in the dry dock, which is flooded.

ETA2: now they're saying a transformer blew and there are several explosions, with more expected. I knew it was more than just some boat ... the pictures are fairly dramatic.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 17:50:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'W')isconsin_cur posted this photo in the other hurricane thread:

link to picture

Looks like maybe a house...

Is that the same place? They're saying the yacht club. You can see several boats in the video.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 18:18:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'A')h, probably not the same place, then. That means there's more than one fire already... 8O

Here is a link to a place where you can see survey bench markers of the Texas City refining complex, showing the elevations:

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My husband said none are over 9' above sea level.

Edit: fixed link (sorry)

Now they're confirming a home is burning ... the fire department can't get to that one either. :(
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Fri 12 Sep 2008, 18:31:11

The governor just had a press conference and said the infrastructure damage could be as much as $81 billion.
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

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Governor Riley Declares State of Emergency; Price Gouging Law Goes into Effect

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')overnor Bob Riley on Friday afternoon declared a state of emergency for Alabama after he received new information from the U.S. Department of Energy that energy shortages will likely occur in the state due to Hurricane Ike.

The Governor’s declaration notes that “disruption of essential utility services, systems and severe energy shortages will likely occur.”
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Re: Hurricane Ike Impacts to Infrastructure

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Gas prices prompt state of emergency declaration from Beshear

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'K')entucky Gov. Steve Beshear on Friday declared a state of emergency to prevent gas price gouging in the state, according to a news release from the Governor’s Office.

...“We have received an overwhelming influx of of reports from across Kentucky regarding gasoline price spikes and even rationing,” said Attorney General Jack Conway in the release. “I felt it was important to get the price gouging protections in place as soon as possible to protect the commonwealth’s consumers and businesses."
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