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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby frankthetank » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 15:09:05

Thunderhorse Survived!

ahhhh... They must have gotten real lucky or they really did fix it after it tilted.

Well, atleast it'll delay PO by about 15 seconds..
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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby khebab » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 15:21:01

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Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Aug-30

Postby tdrive » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 16:06:23

Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Statistics as of August 30
Today’s shut-in oil production is 1,427,969 BOPD. This shut-in oil production is equivalent to 95.20% of the daily oil production in the GOM, which is currently approximately 1.5 million BOPD. Today’s shut-in gas production is 8.798 BCFPD. This shut-in gas production is equivalent to 87.99% of the daily gas production in the GOM, which is currently approximately 10 BCFPD. The cumulative shut-in oil production for the period 8/26/05-8/30/05 is 4,635,751 bbls, which is equivalent to 0.847% of the yearly production of oil in the GOM (approximately 547.5 million barrels). The cumulative shut-in gas production for the period 8/26/05-8/30/05 is 25.441 BCF, which is equivalent to 0.697% of the yearly production of gas in the GOM (approximately 3.65 TCF). MMS
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Re: Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Aug-

Postby markam » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 16:12:45

Last weeks NG report showed a net addition to storage of 60 Bcf. This was teh 8th straight week of net additions below the 5 eyar average. I wouldn't be surprised if the report next week shows that we have a net withdrawal of NG from storage for this week. I doubt that there has ever been a net withdrawal at this time of the year.

It is looking real bad for NG supplies this winter.
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Re: Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Aug-

Postby Taskforce_Unity » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 17:19:01

I don't really get it.
You guys have a supply of 5.6 Trillion cubic feet per day.
Shut in production from Katrina is only 8.8 Billion Cubic feet per day. so that's about .17% of natural gas supply.
Just a little dent, guess the current natural gas prices are an overreaction from the market?
or am i missing something?
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Re: Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Aug-

Postby markam » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 17:44:48

Actually 8.8 Bcf is about 15% of daily usage.

The big problem is that gas demand peaks in the winter because of residential heating. We pump our excess gas into underground caverns during summer/fall so that it is available in the winter. The normal daily production cannot keep up with demand in the winter.

We will be going into the winter will very low storage volumes. This will be a major problem if millions of people lose their heat because of low gas pressure.
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Re: Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Aug-

Postby Taskforce_Unity » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 18:00:44

Sorry i still don't get the production numbers, the confusion comes from the EIA table in the short term energy outlook of august 2005, table 8a.

It gives numbers in trillion cubic feet. I assume then that this is Total quarterly production (jeejsh how unclear given the fact that oil production is in barrels per day).

Sorry for the confusion
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Re: Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Aug-

Postby markam » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 18:06:30

It would be helpful if everything was just measured in cubic meters.

Not all americans are willing to die in order to keep the stupid english system of measurement.
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Re: Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Aug-

Postby Taskforce_Unity » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 18:20:05

I now get it, my current outlook is finished, i think this year you will just manage to go through. Meausring in 8.8 BCFD of loss due to katrina. I don't know what goes into henry's hub though maybe someone may clarify that for me?

Next year though.. stocks are going to be Depleted. (or in case of a really bad winter and superdemand this year already)
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Re: Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Aug-

Postby Tyler_JC » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 18:23:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('markam', 'I')t would be helpful if everything was just measured in cubic meters.
Not all americans are willing to die in order to keep the stupid english system of measurement.

But it's the ones who are that cause lots of problem. The AAMS (American Against the Metric System) is a large and well armed bunch who are willing to fight a civil war against the forces of measuring instrument imperialism from Europe. :lol:
But back to natural gas. I was amazed at the enormous price spike in only a few short days. A large move in oil is 3% or 4% per day. A large move in natural gas prices is like 20%.
If we start drawing down reserves now, we will have serious problems this winter.
Inventories are large right now, but if we see continued supply disruptions from this and possible future hurricane...prices will shoot up even more. We could easily see natural gas in the $15-$20 range. For those who have to heat their home using natural gas, that's scary. 8O
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Re: Hurricane Katrina Evacuation and Production Shut-in Aug-

Postby markam » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 20:29:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')or those who have to heat their home using natural gas, that's scary

Well, I had my wood burning stove installed today. I tried to convince myself that I wasn't really planning for the end of the world, and that I could save enough in gas to pay for it in 4-5 years.
Now it is starting to look like the payback on this baby is going to be significantly shorter.
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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby frankthetank » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 20:48:19

We lost one!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ewfield Exploration Company announced initial findings of an aerial survey of its operations in the eastern Gulf of Mexico. The Company's "A" production platform at Main Pass 138 appears to have been lost in the storm. All other Newfield operated structures flown over appear to be intact. Prior to the shut-in for Hurricane Katrina, the facility was producing 1,500 barrels of oil per day (gross). Newfield operates the facility with a 92% working interest.
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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby Jaymax » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 21:14:01

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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby Jdelagado » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 21:21:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'W')ell, here's Ruppert's take on it.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')This is even before the hurricane has done any significant damage to oil infrastructure. This loss is due only to evacuations. Whatever damage is done by the storm itself may, in some cases, take a year or longer to repair. God knows how many billions that will cost or whether repair crews will even be able to get to key locations. By that time the US economy will have imploded.
I'm going out on a short, sturdy limb here. Oil prices will break the $80 mark within a week. That could turn out to have been an understatement.
Katrina's landfall on August 29, 2005 may well be remembered as the beginning of the collapse of the American Empire. It could also be remembered by future generations as the day that Mother Earth declared full-scale war on the human race. - MCR]

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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby richardmmm » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 21:57:14

some leeves have broken and are flooding NO bigtime.
Although the city came through the hurricane not too badly, this is a nasty situation with the city being flooded.
they are saying 3 weeks to pump the water out (the pumps are currently out of action and submerged.)
it's not directly related to oil, but it knocks NO out of the picture as the beach head for the recovery efforts. instead they have to work on recoverying NO. Link
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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby something_awfull » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 22:02:20

[quote="Jaymax"]Image

now that's an ugly picture.
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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby LadyRuby » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 23:09:06

Not sure which Katrina thread to post to and if this has been posted elsewhere, but here's the director of Port Fourchon talking to the Wall Street Journal about impacts there. Seems like they are more concerned about channelization, which I don't really understand but sounds like sediments deposit in the area and they may not be able to get their ships to and through until they see what that situation is....

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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby OilsNotWell » Tue 30 Aug 2005, 23:49:18

Found on another board:

Mars Platform damage:

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')etails on Mars Platform from an EIA report last year
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Shell Works to Reopen the Mars Platform: located in the Gulf of Mexico, 130 miles southeast of New Orleans, the Mars tension leg platform was shut down on May 22, 2004. A pipeline leak was detected after losing approximately 3 gallons of crude oil. The platform is 3,250 feet high, weighs approximately 36,500 tons, and is in 2,940 feet of water. Mars was producing 150,000 barrels of oil per day and 170 million cubic feet of gas per day before the shut down. According to Shell Oil the oil pipeline from the platform will remain shut-in until repairs can be made. Shell owns 71.5 percent of the Mars platform and BP owns the rest.
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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby DantesPeak » Wed 31 Aug 2005, 00:54:19

Found far from home: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')iamond Offshore has found the Ocean Warwick, which had previously been listed as missing, on Dauphin Island off the coast of Alabama. Aerial photos indicate that the rig has sustained significant damage and is aground on the island. Diamond Offshore is working to get personnel to the rig but will not be able to make a complete assessment of the condition of the unit until a crew is able to re-board the rig.
Dauphin Island is approximately 66 miles northeast of the rig's work location on Main Pass Block 299 prior to passage of hurricane Katrina. The Warwick is insured for approximately $50 million net of applicable deductibles. No personnel were on board the rig at the time of the storm.
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Re: Katrina - Oil Infrastructure

Postby AirlinePilot » Wed 31 Aug 2005, 00:57:57

Ok this is even worse to consider IMHO. EVERYONE who works at these refineries and facilities likely lives close to the damage. The infrastructure for basic things like power, water, food don't exist. Its not just the actual equipment damage that is going to cause problems. This could well be an even larger problem. It is going to take weeks and months just to begin to restore these basic services. To start repairing facilities probably won't happen for quite some time. Likely all the major port facilities which would be involved with repair efforts have major damage and will have to be repaired FIRST and that won't happen until basic cleanup is over and some semblance of order is achieved. I predict it will take months for any kind of real repairs to begin.
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