[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'M')aybe what is needed is a world-wide revolution everywhere to bring down the elites...

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'M')aybe what is needed is a world-wide revolution everywhere to bring down the elites...

What if after toppling Mubarak, a few hundred thousand armed Egyptians surged into Libya to help those rebels? And so on, and so on...

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'M')aybe what is needed is a world-wide revolution everywhere to bring down the elites...

What if after toppling Mubarak, a few hundred thousand armed Egyptians surged into Libya to help those rebels? And so on, and so on...

[rangerone314]

What good did the American Revolution do for the average American in 1775?

The world is pretty much screwed anyway. Might as well die free.

[kiwichick]

vts

i agree with you on the fundamentals; they are terrible and deteriorating

one may hope that a democracy, if that can be achieved, might start to address the issues

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kiwichick', 'v')ts

i agree with you on the fundamentals; they are terrible and deteriorating

one may hope that a democracy, if that can be achieved, might start to address the issues

[WhatDoWeDoNow]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', 'W')atch as wealthy people all over the world flee immigration pressures in their own homelands, to emmigrate to the 1st world countries of America, Canada, Australia as so forth. The places they leave behind become overwhemed with immigrants moving in from even more desperate places.

[Revi]

People are going to start moving, like they did in the 30's. They won't be coming north except in the summers. It is going to turn into a harder place to live because despite global warming most people are going to be living colder with the cost of heating oil over $4 a gallon. It's a hard place to live already, but with the added expense of heating it will be almost impossible for the average person to live in a place like Maine pretty soon.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'P')eople are going to start moving, like they did in the 30's. They won't be coming north except in the summers. It is going to turn into a harder place to live because despite global warming most people are going to be living colder with the cost of heating oil over $4 a gallon. It's a hard place to live already, but with the added expense of heating it will be almost impossible for the average person to live in a place like Maine pretty soon.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kiwichick', 'v')ts

i agree with you on the fundamentals; they are terrible and deteriorating

one may hope that a democracy, if that can be achieved, might start to address the issues

[Revi]

Exactly. The Egyptians were supposed to get wheat from Russia last year, but the Russians decided not to export because the crop had failed. That's one of the reasons why the price of food went up. Egypt went from being an oil exporter to an importer last year as well. Is their democracy going to fix any of their problems? I don't think so. They are just switching one set of military dictators for another.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'P')eople are going to start moving, like they did in the 30's. They won't be coming north except in the summers. It is going to turn into a harder place to live because despite global warming most people are going to be living colder with the cost of heating oil over $4 a gallon. It's a hard place to live already, but with the added expense of heating it will be almost impossible for the average person to live in a place like Maine pretty soon.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WhatDoWeDoNow', '
')Only safe places will be Australia and New Zealand. Maybe UK. Vancouver Island. Tis very good to be surrounded by a large body of water to keep the unwanted out.

US with 3000 mile border with a billion soon to be starving and desperate latinos...forget it.

[Revi]

I don't think the latinos are going to be the problem. The people streaming out of the wrecked cities will be a far worse problem. Look at New Orleans. Who inhabits the place now? I heard that the latino population is far higher as a percentage of the population now. They are the meek that will inherit the earth. White people are going to be far too preoccupied with keeping their car culture going to be of much use growing food. We are going to need those latinos. We need them already. Here in Maine they do most of the pre-commercial thinning of the forests, plant most of the trees and pick most of the crops. Do you want to do that kind of work? I think not. We thinned 2 acres of our woodlot and it took us a couple of months. They do the same job in a day.

[Cloud9]

The local communities really need to look at how they are going to treat the great unwashed should the safety net collapse. I suggest we go back to the vagrancy laws of the 1930’s. When a Hobo got off a train he was asked three questions:

1. Do you live here? If the answer was yes and he could give a name and a street address he was sent on his way. If the answer was no he was asked the second question:

2. Do you have a job? If he could give a name and address he was sent on his way. If the answer was no, he was asked the third question:

3. Do you have twenty dollars in your pocket? If the answer was no, he was arrested for vagrancy and given six months on the county work farm

There he was fed, clothed, doctored and housed. At the end of six months, he was given $20, a suit of clothes and a bus ticket to anywhere within the state.

The food from the work farm fed our prisoners, our poor and our school kids.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'W')e are going to need those latinos. We need them already. Here in Maine they do most of the pre-commercial thinning of the forests, plant most of the trees and pick most of the crops. Do you want to do that kind of work? I think not.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')he local communities really need to look at how they are going to treat the great unwashed should the safety net collapse. I suggest we go back to the vagrancy laws of the 1930’s. When a Hobo got off a train he was asked three questions:

1. Do you live here? If the answer was yes and he could give a name and a street address he was sent on his way. If the answer was no he was asked the second question:

2. Do you have a job? If he could give a name and address he was sent on his way. If the answer was no, he was asked the third question:

3. Do you have twenty dollars in your pocket? If the answer was no, he was arrested for vagrancy and given six months on the county work farm

There he was fed, clothed, doctored and housed. At the end of six months, he was given $20, a suit of clothes and a bus ticket to anywhere within the state.

The food from the work farm fed our prisoners, our poor and our school kids.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') don't think the latinos are going to be the problem. The people streaming out of the wrecked cities will be a far worse problem. Look at New Orleans. Who inhabits the place now? I heard that the latino population is far higher as a percentage of the population now. They are the meek that will inherit the earth. White people are going to be far too preoccupied with keeping their car culture going to be of much use growing food. We are going to need those latinos. We need them already. Here in Maine they do most of the pre-commercial thinning of the forests, plant most of the trees and pick most of the crops. Do you want to do that kind of work? I think not. We thinned 2 acres of our woodlot and it took us a couple of months. They do the same job in a day.

[dolanbaker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat if the man (woman?) refuses to work on the county farm? Do they put him/her in a concrete box and starve him/her till he/she reconsider? Whips? Torture? What?

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'I') don't think the latinos are going to be the problem. The people streaming out of the wrecked cities will be a far worse problem. Look at New Orleans. Who inhabits the place now? I heard that the latino population is far higher as a percentage of the population now. They are the meek that will inherit the earth. White people are going to be far too preoccupied with keeping their car culture going to be of much use growing food. We are going to need those latinos. We need them already. Here in Maine they do most of the pre-commercial thinning of the forests, plant most of the trees and pick most of the crops. Do you want to do that kind of work? I think not. We thinned 2 acres of our woodlot and it took us a couple of months. They do the same job in a day.