[Armageddon]

matt, your an optimist compared to me. this entire system is doomed by 2010.

[EnemyCombatant]

I listend to AJ everyday. He shouts at you because he is truely passionate. That's his manner and always has been, you shouldn't judge him by his passion.

He is also a motivator. He wants to motivate you to get involved, especially in local politics. Perhaps shouting doesn't work on everyone, it may turn some people off, but that's his way and it doesn't hurt his credibility. He does shout the truth.

As a matter of fact, I've been shouted at by alex jones over the Ward Churchill topic. Even though he shouted at me, I try to put that aside because I want to get at the truth.

[b0nez]

I've listened to him and some of his stuff rings true.But one question keeps popping up in my mind.If that guys was telling the truth and our goverment attacked us why would they let this guy be heard.They will kill 3,000 with jumbo jets yet not have this guy wacked before he got a sentence out?Me thinks he would be "missing" lol

[threadbear]

BoneZ--You don't understand how things work.

[MicroHydro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'B')oneZ--You don't understand how things work.

[NEOPO]

Matt, I have some "clients" who "operate" in the Arizona desert area. Just LMK if you want this delagado character "taken care of"

[bobcousins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MicroHydro', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'B')oneZ--You don't understand how things work.

[threadbear]

Either I made a mistake or something is unusual about the quote feature. Could be me. I'll repeat for effect and to set the record straight.

Cousins, Stop boring me.

[bobcousins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbored', 'C')ousins, Stop boring me.

[EnemyCombatant]

IMO, the reason why AJ and Ruppert haven't been knocked off because it's good to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. The only guys that get whacked, like Webb, are the guys that get access to smoking guns. Ruppert discusses a few of these guys in his book Crossing the Rubicon. I forgot their names.

Anyway, if you are out there in the limelight, the less likely you will get whacked. Those that are doing the Jason Bourne shit get taken out. Read this story below to get a taste of what it's like to be one of these guys. It's not a picnic.
link1 and link2

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbored', 'C')ousins, Stop boring me.

[kerosene]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', ' ')He does shout the truth.

[Carlhole]

Russ Wittenberg says America has turned into a police state with martial law on the immediate horizon. He said Americans need to 'wake-up' before it's too late and all constitutional rights are stripped away: link “...Power corrupts, money isn’t enough and these people want total control,” added Wittenberg. “These elites actually think they are better than everybody else and basically want power and control over the diminishing resources by creating a one world government.

Regarding another terror attack on American soil coming on the heels of the London bombings, he said “it’s not if but when,” claiming the unconstitutional Patriot Act is waiting in the wings to silence those Americans who may not fall in line with the government’s eventual takeover."

[PenultimateManStanding]

Sounds like Wittenberg hasn't heard of Peak Oil which does provide a context and motive for these putative neocon conspiracies. He seems to feel its the new world order global government thing. Does anybody seriously believe that a global government can be instituted in this day and age?

[k_semler]

The likely hood of the American people waking up to face reality, and demand that the government change thier ways, or change will be forced upon them is as about as likely as me winning the lottery, and I don't buy tickets either. It will never happen so long as the television remains the primary entertianment medium. With people so concerned about American Idol, Surivor, Big Brother, Oprah, Jerry Springer (is that even on anymore), and whatever else trash is played over the airwaves, people simply "don't have the time" to worry about governmental affiars. When the population is being bombarded by story after story of Micheal Jackson, that pervert in Idaho, and whatever other "Pervert of the Week" comes up, the population will never see what liberties are being stolen from underneath them.

The device which was originally promoted to bring the family together, has fractured the core american belief in a constitutional republic to the point that it can no longer be repaired. There is no hope, the population will not wake up. We will continue losing every freedom, until any place on earth looks better than the USSA. The republic is dead, there is no hope. Why else do you think I get wasted every night?
AUDIO: A Ghost From Valley Forge

[jvangi]

Look guys... I don't know what you think of that but even if we have a multitude of things to worry about in those days, I think this one is one of the worst: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')The Pentagon's "Northern Command" (Northcom) is preparing plans for sending U.S. military forces into action within the borders of the United States.
Buried in deep secrecy within Colorado's Cheyenne Mountain, this military headquarters has considered all of North America as its "battle space" since it was created for that purpose in 2002. It has developed a chain of command over both National Guard and regular troops, and it has been sifting through huge streams of information from federal agents and local police.
Now, two leaked Northcom documents reveal classified plans that include sending many thousands of troops to multiple places around the U.S., prepared to take over control from civilian forces.

[stu]

I checked the home page of that site and found this: link.
Sounds like a scare story to me. Especially considering it's coming from a communist website.

[jvangi]

Yeah, that's what I thought as well... I had noticed where it came from so I googled it a little before initiating that thread. I didn't find any reason not to do it because I found many not communist related websites that run this story.

But it's the other side of the internet information power, right?
Or, can we say that it is the side of the internet desinformation power?

I think it is interesting to initiate a thread on that topic...

[The_Toecutter]

Just because something is 'communist' doesn't mean it's false.

Likewise, while the article had many truths in it regarding the PATRIOT Act, and exemplified the view that this government is sacrificing the rights of its citizens and returning to them a false sense of security, the whole Northcom crap appears to be BS. One way to see if this article isn't mostly BS is to look for that Washington Post article referenced.

[pilferage]

Bah, old news. Any government plans assloads of "What if..." senarios, so that they can keep and consolidate power if need be. I suppose these might get more attention since we're probably close to a large economic shift, but I'd bet these have always been around.