[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', 'I')f that avatar isn't harrassment, I don't know what is. That's some creepy-ass stalker stuff right there. Chalk another one up for psychosis.

[vision-master]

Check out your local PBS schedule for this program.

Tom and Ray Magliozzi, the hosts of NPR's "Car Talk," help Robert Krulwich explore the pros and cons of hydrogen as an automotive fuel in the third edition of the "Nova" newsmagazine offshoot "scienceNow." Also: melting glaciers in Greenland.

Hydrogen fuel cells - one little problem, it takes energy to get pure hydrogen and we haven't a clue how to do this without using conventional energy sources. One expert said we have about 20 years left to get it right. 20 more years and Kapow, batman.

[heroineworshipper]

Fuel cells are so 2005. Now you need to invest in hard drives that use 0.001 less milliwatts, network routers that power off 1 hour a day, monitors that dim the red colors to save a picowatt.

[hironegro]

Supposedly we're 20-50 years away from scaled nuclear fusion power planet.

[sciencegirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')upposedly we're 20-50 years away from scaled nuclear fusion power planet

[hironegro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sciencegirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')upposedly we're 20-50 years away from scaled nuclear fusion power planet

[Ludi]

We're usually about 20 years away from having "god-like powers."

[hironegro]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')e're usually about 20 years away from having "god-like powers."

[Pops]

I love the Tappet Bros. and Nova but that was the most deceitful Nova I have ever seen.

Shame on them.

[hironegro]

George Bu$h Hitler!

If people can't/won’t accept new energy sources replacement that will have 1:1.5 to 1:5 energy efficiency as fossil fuels, than I don't know what to say.
.

[bigfnman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sciencegirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')upposedly we're 20-50 years away from scaled nuclear fusion power planet

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bigfnman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sciencegirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')upposedly we're 20-50 years away from scaled nuclear fusion power planet

[heroineworshipper]

We're 20 years away from that pullback in oil inflation that Bernanke keeps predicting.

[Graeme]

New Hybrid Fuel Cell franchise launches

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ctaFuel’s environmental fuel-saving Hybrid Fuel Cell retro-fits to 99.9% of all vehicles – provides up to 40% savings at the pump.

At a time when motorists are seriously tired of escalating petrol prices, OctaFuel’s timing couldn’t be better, suggests Michael Fresnel, General Manager, OctaFuel New Zealand.

“Research shows the $2 mark is the tipping point when 21% of consumers will change their behaviour – and here we are, through that barrier. That same research suggests the next barrier is just around the corner at $2.20 – when 51% of consumers will be ready for change. The OctaFuel alternative is the obvious choice.”

[mos6507]

"An OctaFuel franchise requires a minimum investment of $175,000."

Sounds like yet another scam to me.

[kokoda]

My first reaction to this was that it is the work of a con-artist.

A quick look at their website merely confirms my initial thoughts.

What is a hybrid Fuel Cell anyway?

[Graeme]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '"')An OctaFuel franchise requires a minimum investment of $175,000."

Sounds like yet another scam to me.

[dickdann]

Yes a 'semi-scam' I would guess. More mis-leading than outright scam. They probably fit an electrolysis system to your car run from the alternator and feed the hydroxy gas generated directly into the air intake.
There are some claims that this improves the burn efficiency of the fuel and therefore reduces fuel consumption. There are plenty of details out there on how to build these.

I don't know if this is what they have or not but I do know:

A) It is not a "fuel cell" and calling an electrolysis device a fuel cell is misleading at best. (they are of course opposites) (and making comparisons to Honda's new fuel cell car is not credible)

B) It does not cost $3500 to make one of these devices there are plenty of instructions on the web and it can be made for under $200.

C) It is unproven that it adds any fuel efficiency boost, let only 40%.

I notice they are now selling these on trademe.co.nz as well!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... ermanent=0

Buyer beware I would say...

[kokoda]

It says the listing was withdrawn by the administrator ... they must be already getting complaints.

Unfortunately these scam artists will be having a field day at the moment selling all sorts of devices that will "improve" your fuel efficiency.

People actually fall for stuff like this ...

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic41499.html