[ColossalContrarian]

#OccupyWelfareLines coming to a city near you...

[Cog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', 'W')elfare Lines Overflow

"It's outrageous," said Charles Leonard, a disabled 50-year-old who complained to 311 recently about a long wait and confusion at a center on Northern Boulevard in Queens. "It's like everybody is running around with their head cut off, and no one cares."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... _US_News_5

[xerces]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shaved Monkey', 'I')ts all very convenient having the Darwinian fantasies of survival of the fittest and starving out the weak.
History has shown when you starve the majority,they start gathering in the streets and sometimes they start building guillotines.

[Mesuge]

There are no peasants anymore in most of the west and also suprisingly in many parts of the developing world. The agrobusiness on fossil steroids and ongoing mutli generational detachment of people from land to megalopolis has taken its toll. It's rather comparable to the idea of suddenly flipping "workers" ~1910 style rebellion in todays service based economies of the west. Simply, impossible. More probable outcome: some variation of authority forced "humanitarian aid" arrangement aka food stamps & soup kitchens locked to permanent residence status and what have you. What has been left of the countryside is reserved for the %1, watch the price of land repriced (ehm xy-mach speed skyrocket) during the ultimate financial system reset.

PS and by land I mean the whole quality package: fresh water, fresh air, wood, game, fertile soil, insolation, low risk weather event regions, ..

[Serial_Worrier]

There is a big difference between now and 1790. The French peasants were hungry, lean and mean and ready for mass killing operations. Today's "poor" are fat, indolent, lazy and probably on several anti-depressants. They are in no shape to mount a violent, bloody revolution of the kind Loki is pining for.

[bratticus]

Sorry, what I really meant to post is that we don't need food stamps, after all there's an obesity crisis, right?

Wait! I didn't come up with that idea, guess who did?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Santorum: 'Town Hall crowds are getting a little bigger'
By Joanne Glamm / Le Mars Daily Sentinel / December 6, 2011

... Santorum told the group he would cut the food stamp program, describing it as one of the fastest growing programs in Washington, D.C.

Forty-eight million people are on food stamps in a country with 300-million people, said Santorum.

"If hunger is a problem in America, then why do we have an obesity problem among the people who we say have a hunger program?" Santorum asked. ...

[Revi]

If Santorum gets in there and cuts food stamps those overfed people could get lean and mean. That could lead to the kind of unrest we have seen in the Arab Spring. Think occupy on steroids.

[Cog]

Food stamps will not be cut regardless of which party runs the White House.

[Pretorian]

I don't mind feeding people for free, even if they choose not to work. But by gods why do they have to live in the cities,or expensive neighborhoods? Move them to the middle of nowhere and feed them gruel buffet style. Put a few HDTVs and xboxes in each barrack and they will never want to leave the place. Win-win for both parties, imo.

[Livewire713]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bratticus', 'S')orry, what I really meant to post is that we don't need food stamps, after all there's an obesity crisis, right?

Wait! I didn't come up with that idea, guess who did?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Santorum: 'Town Hall crowds are getting a little bigger'
By Joanne Glamm / Le Mars Daily Sentinel / December 6, 2011

... Santorum told the group he would cut the food stamp program, describing it as one of the fastest growing programs in Washington, D.C.

Forty-eight million people are on food stamps in a country with 300-million people, said Santorum.

"If hunger is a problem in America, then why do we have an obesity problem among the people who we say have a hunger program?" Santorum asked. ...

[AgentR11]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'F')ood stamps will not be cut regardless of which party runs the White House.

[vision-master]

Natural organic grass fed hamburger is like $8 lb in the supermarket these day's.

How much is good cheese?

Good Bread, $5 loaf?

What's 10 lb of organic brown rice, $30?

How about those $1 burgers at Mac & Dons.....

[AgentR11]

VM... I think you've been shopping in too many trendy stores!

$5 for a loaf of bread? You're getting hosed.
200g flour, 130g water, salt, yeast... not $5.
Even using the most expensive flour from the worst place to get it, I'm still coming out under $1.

[vision-master]

I figured I'd get a responce like this. This has nothing to do with what I pay for my stuff.

FYI: I get two loafs of bakery bread for $1 - lol

[AgentR11]

So why suggest "good" bread costs $5?

$5 bread is probably 4 days old, wrapped in cellophane, and placed on a cedar counter lit by track lighting...
ewwwwww!

[vision-master]

I have purchased $5 a loaf bread, it goes quick too. Made fresh in a finnish bakery - good stuff.

[AgentR11]

If you paid $5 in Finland, that's a different kettle of fish.

However, as an entry in the food stamp thread, I'm not sure exactly how relevant it is. You might as well suggest people on food stamps need to eat at expensive restaurants daily in order to eat healthy.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'O')besity is not disease of sloth/gluttony as they want you to believe. It is mostly a disease of poverty--poor education, a corrupt USDA/FDA, inadequate kitchen facilities, lack of time and especially intentional malnutrition foisted by the like of ADM/ Cargil and their stooges in Congress.

In American steers gorge on the wheat oil and protein (wheat germ), the wealthy dine on their Porterhouse Steaks, and the rest get what remains--white flour and sugar. The obese live on a inexpensive junk-food diet of of cheap starch, salt, refined sugars, and hydrogenated vegetable oil. WIC promotes apple and orange juice, full of fructose. In the USA high quality meat and fresh vegetables, and the time and luxury to prepare them are quickly becoming out of reach for middle class americans. That crap sandwich and chips you drag to your desk everyday is poison. We are slaves

[AgentR11]

FROM SNAP Eligible Food Items
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ouseholds CAN use SNAP benefits to buy:
Foods for the household to eat, such as:
-- breads and cereals;
-- fruits and vegetables;
-- meats, fish and poultry; and
-- dairy products.
Seeds and plants which produce food for the household to eat.