Get yourself a good hand gun and start getting proficient at using it ….
Get yourself a good rifle and start getting proficient at using it ….
Get yourself a shotgun and start getting proficient at using it ….
Get and always have available the two most basic things for survival being the ability to cut and the ability to burn …
Build from there and I promise despair will start disappearing more & more with each step…
PeakOil is You
THE Emotional Depression Thread (merged)
by RonMN » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 22:27:01
it helps to talk on this forum...keep doing it!
If you need the gloom to stop for a moment check out the thread titled "Toilet Paper"...take a breath...be calm...you're doing just fine.
We all know this hits like a ton of bricks...we've all been there & i don't believe any of us means to be non-chelant about it...it's just at a point you can either laugh or cry...well alot of us are sick of crying so we just try to laugh.
Good luck!
If you need the gloom to stop for a moment check out the thread titled "Toilet Paper"...take a breath...be calm...you're doing just fine.
We all know this hits like a ton of bricks...we've all been there & i don't believe any of us means to be non-chelant about it...it's just at a point you can either laugh or cry...well alot of us are sick of crying so we just try to laugh.
Good luck!
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by savethehumans » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 22:58:40
Hang on, my friend. Day by day. Seek out and appreciate things and people which/who DON'T depend on oil & gas to access. Learn basic stuff like home gardening, canning, and passive solar methods. Ride a bike and mass transit. Read up on P.O., global warming, climate change, and how to adapt to a simpler, elbow-grease life. Start a library of these books--people in your circle are gonna need to read 'em, too--and sooner than you think.
The shock and fear never REALLY go away, of course--how could they? EVERYTHING'S gonna change! But you do get to where you can act upon it in preparation (which helps the "what to do?" woes). Seeing the absurdity of the last era (and you will) does produce some dark, wry, tongue-in-cheek humor in you--you'll get like us, I promise. You have to, or you'll go mad! Working your way toward perspective is the key thing. Keeping this NOT secret of the near future in and around you, day by day, it becomes less extraordinary and more a part of your life, like breathing. That knot in your stomach will ease a bit, even though, as you've said, EVERYTHING, EVERY event, EVERY moment will be seen through the lens of P.O. from now on.
Talking here does help. Developing basic skills not only helps, but gives you something to do besides fret. (Though I fret over my carrot sprouts; seems new weeds sprout up around them EVERY BLASTED DAY....) Have friends and family around. You really won't be able to talk to them about P.O. (man, do we all know THAT!), but you can help them help themselves (and spend more time with you) using other tactics. Like, "I'm growing some veggies in the back yard to save money at the grocery. It's kind of neat. Wanna help? I'll give you a share of the crops!" That kind of thing. Someday, all too soon, they'll be thanking you for that....
Just therapeutic to write these suggestions to you. Welcome to our angst-ridden, determined-to-get-through-this tribe!!
The shock and fear never REALLY go away, of course--how could they? EVERYTHING'S gonna change! But you do get to where you can act upon it in preparation (which helps the "what to do?" woes). Seeing the absurdity of the last era (and you will) does produce some dark, wry, tongue-in-cheek humor in you--you'll get like us, I promise. You have to, or you'll go mad! Working your way toward perspective is the key thing. Keeping this NOT secret of the near future in and around you, day by day, it becomes less extraordinary and more a part of your life, like breathing. That knot in your stomach will ease a bit, even though, as you've said, EVERYTHING, EVERY event, EVERY moment will be seen through the lens of P.O. from now on.
Talking here does help. Developing basic skills not only helps, but gives you something to do besides fret. (Though I fret over my carrot sprouts; seems new weeds sprout up around them EVERY BLASTED DAY....) Have friends and family around. You really won't be able to talk to them about P.O. (man, do we all know THAT!), but you can help them help themselves (and spend more time with you) using other tactics. Like, "I'm growing some veggies in the back yard to save money at the grocery. It's kind of neat. Wanna help? I'll give you a share of the crops!" That kind of thing. Someday, all too soon, they'll be thanking you for that....
Just therapeutic to write these suggestions to you. Welcome to our angst-ridden, determined-to-get-through-this tribe!!
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by frankthetank » Wed 20 Apr 2005, 23:38:35
I think i'm in the acceptance stage now...you'll get there 
Good luck and have some fun...you only have one ride on this ferris wheel
Good luck and have some fun...you only have one ride on this ferris wheel
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by MicroHydro » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 02:35:59
Alemoa,
IMO, the world would have been better off if oil had peaked in the 1920s, before generations of people in the US had grown up knowing no other way to live than burning 25 barrels of oil per year. But the world will muddle through. There will be pleasure and pain, adventure, war and peace, love and death, just as in every age. If the population declines, well, it will not have been the first time. Remember the genocide of the Native Americans, the potato famine, the black death, the 40 million killed by Stalin?
The Europeans colonists came to America in wooden ships under sail well before the oil age. The sea merchants who lived in the 1700s sailed many thousands of nautical miles per year. The modern men who ride the Tour de France ride 20,000 miles a year on their bicycles. The depletion of oil does not mean the end of travel, only a different pace to life.
The major threat to everyone is not the gradual process of oil depletion over decades, but war in the present. Resisting the plans of a few rich old men who wish to set the world aflame fighting over the last drops of oil is very important. If you are draft age, consider your options.
IMO, the world would have been better off if oil had peaked in the 1920s, before generations of people in the US had grown up knowing no other way to live than burning 25 barrels of oil per year. But the world will muddle through. There will be pleasure and pain, adventure, war and peace, love and death, just as in every age. If the population declines, well, it will not have been the first time. Remember the genocide of the Native Americans, the potato famine, the black death, the 40 million killed by Stalin?
The Europeans colonists came to America in wooden ships under sail well before the oil age. The sea merchants who lived in the 1700s sailed many thousands of nautical miles per year. The modern men who ride the Tour de France ride 20,000 miles a year on their bicycles. The depletion of oil does not mean the end of travel, only a different pace to life.
The major threat to everyone is not the gradual process of oil depletion over decades, but war in the present. Resisting the plans of a few rich old men who wish to set the world aflame fighting over the last drops of oil is very important. If you are draft age, consider your options.
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by bobbyald » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 04:42:59
Welcome Alemoa,
It takes a while for it all to sink in at first. You will have good and bad days but eventually you just accept it.
Even now you are easily within the top 1% of people that are aware of PO and this gives you a tremendous advantage. So don’t panic, live life to the full and just factor PO into whatever decisions you make.
Good luck.
It takes a while for it all to sink in at first. You will have good and bad days but eventually you just accept it.
Even now you are easily within the top 1% of people that are aware of PO and this gives you a tremendous advantage. So don’t panic, live life to the full and just factor PO into whatever decisions you make.
Good luck.
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by killJOY » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 06:47:26
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')reaked - after I saw "The End of Suburbia"
Not to be too bitchy....but you came to such a firm conclusion after just watching one movie? Or have you done other research?
I'm a bit amazed how quickly some people suspend skeptical judgment and hop on the PO bus.
Not that I'm anything but a PO doomer, mind you, but that comes after a year and a half of study.
Peak oil = comet Kohoutek.
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by Specop_007 » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 08:27:50
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BiGG', 'G')et yourself a good hand gun and start getting proficient at using it ….
Get yourself a good rifle and start getting proficient at using it ….
Get yourself a shotgun and start getting proficient at using it ….
Get and always have available the two most basic things for survival being the ability to cut and the ability to burn …
Build from there and I promise despair will start disappearing more & more with each step…
Get yourself a good rifle and start getting proficient at using it ….
Get yourself a shotgun and start getting proficient at using it ….
Get and always have available the two most basic things for survival being the ability to cut and the ability to burn …
Build from there and I promise despair will start disappearing more & more with each step…
HAHA! Good luck doing that in that stain on the map known as Kali!
Welcome to Socialist Rule, where your not a citizen but a subject. And as such, no guns for you!
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Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."
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Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."
Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
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by BiGG » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 09:04:53
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HAHA! Good luck doing that in that stain on the map known as Kali!
Welcome to Socialist Rule, where your not a citizen but a subject. And as such, no guns for you!
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HAHA! Good luck doing that in that stain on the map known as Kali!
Welcome to Socialist Rule, where your not a citizen but a subject. And as such, no guns for you!
They are getting quite flaky and turning into blithering idiots out there for sure!
The first soccer mom that comes after my “assault” weapons just because they look scary will quickly be told to kiss my ass as I follow that train of thought known as “From My Cold Dead Hands……”!
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by PhilBiker » Thu 21 Apr 2005, 09:25:38
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ot to be too bitchy....but you came to such a firm conclusion after just watching one movie? Or have you done other research?
I'm a bit amazed how quickly some people suspend skeptical judgment and hop on the PO bus.
Not that I'm anything but a PO doomer, mind you, but that comes after a year and a half of study.
Agreed.
I'm a bit amazed how quickly some people suspend skeptical judgment and hop on the PO bus.
Not that I'm anything but a PO doomer, mind you, but that comes after a year and a half of study.
Welcome aboard alemoa. Nice to have you. It's been about 10 months for me and I'm still freaked out.
Peak Oil is part of a bigger problem. I recommend reading "Limits To Growth: The 30 year update".
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