[Didga]

This reference to Bilderberger Group in connection with their malipulation of peak ol is an excellent example of how the illuminati and the NWO affect our lives via undemocratic semi secret societies. People will have various understanding of peak oil but until they study its historical development in context of the illuminati and the NWO true understanding will escape them. The answer to how, could such a massive threat to society develop and remain unknown by the general public and completely not acted upon to mitigate its affect, is found in the illuminati and the NWO. In their ownership of the money system through the worlds central banks, the ownership of the military industrial complex and their ownership of the mainstream media.

Unfortunately no one author connects all the dots between peak oil, the illuminati and the NWO. Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert will come the closest of the peak oil authors in connectting 911 and the oil wars to peak oil. Since these topicis so individually are so broad and conspiracies themselves are hard to prove authors may just state a strong case on a few elements of the bigger picture.

I suggest to people new to peak oil that wish to further their knowledge that firstly they start with some non-peak oil reading. Specifically on evolutionary biology and human history. The works of Jarred Diamond in "Guns, Germs and Steel" and "Collapse" are great places to start. Collapse even references peak oil and cites Kenneth's Deffeyes "Hubberts Peak" as well as examining the erron collapse and the actions of its elite directors.

Peak oil material is readily available in books and also DVD, the only real discussion here is the timing of the event and if its months or years away.

Material on the NWO is harder to come by as by its very nature its secret. Paul Watson's "Order out of Chaos" is an excellent work on government sponsored terrorism. The passionate rants of Alex Jones can be found at his numerous websites and in DVD and radio detailing the NWO as it develops. Again the most obvious and well documented glimpse into the working of the NWO can be found in the 911 staged terror attacks which they carried out. A simple open and objective mind combined with the google search of 911 truth will get you started. On this site the 911 threads have been relegated by the moderators as censorship can creeep into all levels of discussion. However I suggest you visit the open discussion combined 911 thread for the views of posters here.

After you have consumed the above material and assimilated into your world view you will have been made to think long and hard about human nature and what its possible of. This is a very healthy thing, after all humankind is facing the greatest crisis its ever faced in its entire history, seroius stuff requires some serious reflection. Now it would be time to start studying the illuminati, the powerful bloodlines that pass control down through generations and seek conquest at all levels. The Central banks of the world are controlled by these families. Fritz Springmeier will offer information in regards to the illuminati, David Icke is another source as is the Three World Wars site. Before dismissing these books due to far out claims of satanism and ritual sacrifice I remind the reader of the actios of previous historical dictators and current government run and covered up child slavery rings. These two things alone should allow enough understanding of the human charater to know that power corrupts and horrible things arise as a result.

It is important to note that you have very little time left to educate yourself in regards to these matters. After the financial crsis preceeding peak oil hits your ability to learn about the crisis and protect yourself from it will be greatly reduced. Remember the scientfic community studying peak expects it to occur in only months to years, not much time at all. If you do chose to study the illuminati and NWO in context to peak oil you will see that the above quote by the Bilderberger Group makes perfect sense. With all other indicators pointing to it and now the word from the very from the elite masters mouth expect a financial crisis within 24 months and be prepared for it.

[entropyfails]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hoplite', 'T')he reason I made the Cult like appearance comment is that there are several people here who actually are recruiting others to join in small "communities". It just don't get much Cultier than that, Dolls.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hoplite', 'S')hould not congregate here. Commiseration will only accelerate your disorder.
"Peak Oil" is not going to happen in your lifetime! No matter how how much you want it to, you could be depressed for your progeny, but our lifes will remain remarkably dull and boring for the foreseeable future.

People on this site have an uncanny resemblance (in their behaviour) to Christian fundamentalist cult members- but you're all too smart for that, right?
not...

People who suffer from borderline personality disorder marked by narcissistic delusions shouldn't congregate here either, Bub.









--"liberalism IS a mental disorder" Michael Weiner

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hoplite', 'S')hould not congregate here. Commiseration will only accelerate your disorder.
"Peak Oil" is not going to happen in your lifetime! No matter how how much you want it to, you could be depressed for your progeny, but our lifes will remain remarkably dull and boring for the foreseeable future.

People on this site have an uncanny resemblance (in their behaviour) to Christian fundamentalist cult members- but you're all too smart for that, right?
not...









--"liberalism IS a mental disorder" Michael Weiner

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he reason I made the Cult like appearance comment is that there are several people here who actually are recruiting others to join in small "communities". It just don't get much Cultier than that, Dolls.

[Markos101]

I feel sorry for people who have been convinced that conspiracies don't exist today. The fact is, most of the significant events of history have been the result of - a conspiracy. A conspriacy is simply when two of more people meet to do something in secret becuase they realise others wouldn't like them doing it. The first thing that is done, often in our media, is to say 'well, that's a conspiracy theory'. As if the statement 'it's a conspiracy theory' proves that there is absolutely no substance to the argument put forward - automatically!

In addition, most people will accept that corporations are involved in conspiracies, or some clubs or groups - but the government? Oh no, they can't be involved in a conspriacy, not those saintly people, right?

My advice is - study history. You'll find that out of all people, throughout the ages, the most corrupt, damaging and power centred people that have ever existed have been - in government!

The Bilderberg group is a real group. It's a fact. It's documented, proven and they've been filmed several times getting together at whatever hotel they choose each year. There are journalists who spend their lives investigating and reporting on it. It's a group of international bankers, government officials (including Blair I might add, before he became PM), and big business directors who meet up to discuss how to bring about World government, slowly in front of people's eyes. Reuters, BBC, AP and other reputable news organisations have reported on it, albeit very sparsely.

It's not just the Bilderbergers though - we have the Trilateral Commission, the Council On Foreign Relations (funded by Cecil Rhode's first will to setup a secret society to bring about one world government), Club of Rome (who are very much behind the early peak, depopulation agenda) and other groups bend on becconing in world leaders to bring them into their Fabian agenda.

It's a fact! That is reality!

Because of this, I have come to the conclusion that, since this group very much want a one world cashless currency, and that a good percentage of the world's oil supplies are under the Rockefeller's control who are steeped in the world government agenda, that peak oil is a proven scientific fact but it will be artificially brought on by those at the top of the merging seven sisters (any lower employees of course will know nothing about it) earlier than it would naturally occur.

This will cause a global financial cataclysm, and similar to how the Bank of England was enforced upon the people in 1694 for the benefit of the commercial banking system and the monarchs, that the solution will be brought forward to bring in a one world global currency, to be issued and controlled via the fractional reserve/fiat method that is mathematically doomed to failiure, by the World Bank, currently headed by CFR Paul Wolfowitz. This will complete one major step further to global governance.

It's problem-reaction-solution. Peak oil will happen, but it will happen earlier than necessary. It might also cause a depopulation of what the Club of Rome have called 'useless eaters'. Another step of agenda is complete.

[Free]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Didga', ' ')
The answer to how, could such a massive threat to society develop and remain unknown by the general public and completely not acted upon to mitigate its affect, is found in the illuminati and the NWO.

[Jaymax]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o, please tell us who the Bilderbergers are

[aldente]

There is a wealth of information on this website:
http://www.bilderberg.org/2005.htm
if you scoll down you'll also find a list of participants on their last meeting that took place recently in Germany. Even Peak Oil is being mentioned!

No, it's not a 'conspiracy'. Bilderberg is an extremely influential lobbying group. That's not to say though that the organisers don't have a hidden agenda, they do, namely accumulation of wealth and power into their own hands whilst explaining to the participants that globalisation is for the good of all.
From: What are Bilderberg Conferences all about:
http://www.bilderberg.org/bilder.htm#What

[Free]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', ' ')He describes Bilderberg's ultimate goal as a one-world government.

[aldente]

I edited my post since this quote reflected a rather subjective opinion. Nevertheless, that web-site is well worth looking into. Supposedly this is a mirror-site since the owner of the site had all sorts of troubles in the past: Quote from an e-mail that he had received:
As a Freemason, I shouldn't resort to getting angry, Brotherly Love and all that..... but you..... Count yourself lucky I don't drive over to Bristol to give you a good kicking you cunt!!! I've just tripped over your website whilst researching Masonic stuff, and I am truly incensed at your bigoted opinions, inflated ego and sarcastic approach to freemasonry!!!! You are a self opinionated, bigoted, anarchistic, big nosed, greenpeace tw*t!
http://www.bilderberg.org/legal.htm#Demon

[Idahoil]

The Bildrberg Group definitely exists, they were exposed this year at their conference in Europe. What's interesting is that, in 1991, Bill Clinton attended the group then became president in 1992. This year another relatively unknown governor attended, Mark Warner from Virginia. If this group is as influential as the conspiracy theorists believe, we should be seeing him getting elected in 2008; that is unless we are in the midst of the 3rd world war and Bush has declared himself emperor (only partly joking)...

There has been a bill rider that was introduced this year to try to repeal the 22nd amendment, surprisingly by 2 democrat congressmen; as if there is a difference in the parties, anyway...

[Badger]

It is astonishing how foolish humans can be in groups, especially when they follow their leaders without question - DUNE

[BastardSquad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', ' ')He describes Bilderberg's ultimate goal as a one-world government.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Didga', 'U')nfortunately no one author connects all the dots between peak oil, the illuminati and the NWO.

[HeterosexOrgan]

These 'cults' that you speak of, isn't it just community grass-roots based bioregionalism? If so, that's not a cult, although bioregionalism is not an individualistic lifestyle.

And as far as 'borderline personality disorder', I don't follow other's rules at all, I don't consider this a failing. In fact, I think it shows strength of character. But of course in situations where teh childhood safety of higher aithority structures breaks down, you might encounter situations where you may be forced to compromise personal freedom for survival - this would be a survival situation, potentially a very violent/militant one (due to it being a self-inflicted disaster). A situation like this is has the potential to be very very bad for anyone who isn't a straight rich white heterosexual male. That's what I would be afraid of if I were you. People have to develop more of a social consciousness and sense of responsibility, so that when there suddenly aren't any rules, poeple know how to manage their lives.

And I think oil has already peaked, and yes I am totally apathetic. but that is mainly because I often let myself becoem submissive to teh desire of teh masses. I think to myself -oh well, its the end, we're fucked.

But it also makes me angry that a certain power elite has forced this upon us all. When I look at it clearly, I don't see this situation as an outright indictment of human nature at all.

[pedalling_faster]

in one case i have been really surprised, speaking with a relative, to hear their relative degree of acceptance of the Iraq War. they are slightly informed about it, they know American forces are killing civilians. when i ask them about it they say, "it doesn't really bother me. i try to keep a positive outlook."

then when they're not home & i look in their medicine cabinet, i see Paxil.

granted, American news media filters out 99% of the grim news, maybe more.

but when i spend time with people who get upset about, for example, a neighbor's dog being tied up, i know they're feeling.

still, compassionate people, that is.

one of the better autobiographies from World War 2 that i've read is, "for those i loved", by martin gray. he was a young 15 year old Jewish boy who was living in Poland when the Nazi's came in and turned Warsaw into a concentration camp. he survived Auschwitz, and it was a situation where survival skills meant hiding in the excrement in the latrine, with a straw to breathe.

when he got to New York, it was a piece of cake. he went into sales and was wealthy within 5 years.

anyway, a good reference for WW2.

it is accurate to say that the horrors visited upon Iraq by the US military since March 2003 exceed that which was visited upon Poland by the German army in WW2.

and we are taught that what Hitler did is, atrocious. and, it was.

yet people are strangely numb to what their government is doing NOW.

i think, part of this is the Shock and Awe of 9-11.

i also can't help but wonder if the strange acceptance that Americans have of the war in Iraq is related to the widespread use of SSRI anti-depressants.

[Vexed]

(edited for dead link)

[SoothSayer]

Interesting idea.

prozac is well known for reducing or even eliminating grief caused by the death of close family.

"So Dad was crushed by a truck today, and took 2 hours to die? Oh well, shit happens."

Do many take prozac in the US?