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Re: Bill Gates dumps dollar for euro

Unread postby BabyPeanut » Mon 24 Oct 2005, 08:13:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tokyo_to_motueka', 't')his is neither news nor a current event.
it is quoting Gates from a Bloomberg article dated JANUARY 29.

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Re: Bill Gates dumps dollar for euro

Unread postby Doly » Mon 24 Oct 2005, 11:29:45

I think by the time Gates to know about something, it's late news. So the fact that you shouldn't trust the dollar was late news by January.
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Re: Bill Gates dumps dollar for euro

Unread postby Eli » Mon 24 Oct 2005, 12:01:43

Yup Buffet made his play against the dollar 2 years ago.

He and Bill Gates are good friends it looks like it took Bill 2 years to agree with Buffet. Things must have just kept adding up for him and he must have been finally agreed.

That is why Buffet has so much friggin money he sees where things are going two years before they start to happen.

It really is becoming an oxymoron that the riches nation on earth is also the greatest debtor nation ?
:roll: That seems unpossible
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Re: Bill Gates dumps dollar for euro

Unread postby gnm » Mon 24 Oct 2005, 12:25:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('strider3700', 'G')ates is a guy that made a product and became very very rich. he has lots of investment advisors that do an excellent job of keeping him very very rich and making him more. I'm not too concerned with what he does.

Buffet is a guy that never really made anything other then crap loads of money from playing the market and knowing it very very well. When he buys crap loads of silver and gets out of the dollar I'm forced to wonder what he knows and if I should follow. Betting against buffet hasn't really paid off in the past.


Actually many say he basically stole said "product" (DOS) from AT&T labs where he was a second rate programmer. With the help of millionaire daddy the lawyers money he repackaged it and sold it to IBM whom he later contracted to work on the GUI for OS/2 but then breached contract and began selling windows (the OS/2 gui) separately on top of DOS. Thusly was the piece of crap known as windows born. Neither did they (microsoft) actually invent or engineer many of their other products (like office) - Office is a mish-mash of other companies software - compaines which were bought up by microsoft in order to get whatever peice of software they needed and to prevent competition.

In short the guy didn't get rich by being nice and working hard. Hes a rich boy who used money and "the law" ruthlessly to make more money. In other words a good buisnessman... And an even bigger asshole...

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Re: Bill Gates dumps dollar for euro

Unread postby NEOPO » Mon 24 Oct 2005, 16:07:53

Just more signs of todays financial times.

Windows isnt a piece of crap now IMHO and I have been playing with computers since the commodore and pong.
YES 3.1 and 95 sucked - 98 sucked ass - 2000 wasnt much better but XP has been a solid performer for me minus the initial growing pains.

I started using XP when computer makers were telling everyone that XP was not ready.
FAT32 was driving me nuts so I looked at NTFS as something that needed to be embraced.
As you can tell I am not a Mac person.
Sure there was reluctance to asimilate yet once everyone was aware that the consumer was buying XP en masse then came the fixes.
I rarely have a problem now and when I do it is usually human error or hardware malfunctions.
Ultimately MS needs competition and it is not good that MS has VERY little.
This is just one area where it has saved me time and money to not resist but rather go with the flow.

Yep - a good businessman and a rich kid he is.
A thief?
I suppose you can say that yet I am glad someone stole the wheel from the guy who invented it 8)
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Re: Bill Gates dumps dollar for euro

Unread postby gnm » Mon 24 Oct 2005, 16:33:13

You don't get charged license fees per wheel.....

And yes I'd consider walking out with a copy of my employers intellectual property (AT&T's DOS) then rebranding it and selling it under my new company name theft...

Do you think frivolusly suing other companies until they collapse and buying them out to rebrand thier products as yours is a good ethical buisness practice?

Try EXT3 if you want a real filesystem....

Oh, the reason XP was such an improvement is because they hired the inventor of VMS and re-used the system kernel starting with windows 2000...

Microsoft couldn't "innovate" their way out of a paper bag...

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Re: Bill Gates dumps dollar for euro

Unread postby strider3700 » Mon 24 Oct 2005, 19:37:37

EXT3? bah resierfs is a real mans filesystem ;)

I use XP at work and other then the fact that I'm regularly trying to keep track of which machine has what key installed on it and screaming about the activation issues it's not bad. Better then the 2000 I left for linux but it still sucks compaired to my gentoo box. Now if it was to get a nice package manager and dropped it's insane licensing requirements maybe I'd use it at home.

Until it becomes easy to keep everything up to date in it though I'm not going back.
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Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby Leanan » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 08:12:54

Over at the Oil Drum, someone reports that they saw Bill Gates on TV last night. The interviewer asked him what he was reading, and he named some peak oil books, including "Twilight In the Desert." He said energy will be the great issue of our time.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby Doly » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 08:19:15

Considering how long it usually takes Bill Gates to become aware of a hot issue in his own chosen speciality, you can say that by the time Bill Gates becomes aware of an issue, the writing is on the wall.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby Novus » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 09:03:11

If Bill Gates cares about oil he should make his next Windows OS more efficient on older hardware. Everytime a new Windows comes out you have to buy a whole new computer. New computers cost about 15 barrels of oil to make. Bill Gates has the power to make a lot of change in the world and I am not talking about his charity foundation. He could make a lot of money if Microsoft went in the direction of reusing old PCs.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby basketballjones » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 09:22:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'C')onsidering how long it usually takes Bill Gates to become aware of a hot issue in his own chosen speciality, you can say that by the time Bill Gates becomes aware of an issue, the writing is on the wall.



i think you mean oprah.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby Heineken » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 09:52:37

Notwithstanding his brainy, New Age image, Gates has been remarkably conventional in his thinking about the energy, economic, and environmental issues of importance to POers. For example, he sings praises of China's pell-mell "growth."

Just another businessman.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby Leanan » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 10:02:05

I'm told the interview is online here:

rtsp://195.245.176.21/rtpfiles/videos/o ... 2022006.rm

I can't see for myself. This machine doesn't do audio/video.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby bartholland » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 13:09:00

Nothing to do with your machine. The link is incorrect!
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 13:17:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'O')ver at the Oil Drum, someone reports that they saw Bill Gates on TV last night. The interviewer asked him what he was reading, and he named some peak oil books, including "Twilight In the Desert." He said energy will be the great issue of our time.


I imagine doing things like buying the rights to "end of suburbia" and then mass producing it like AOL cds and putting a copy in every mailbox in America. Not everyone would believe it but it would start one hell of a national conversation.

Someone like Bill Gates could, if he wanted to, actually do such a thing.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby Leanan » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 14:10:40

Better yet, he could make a really good peak oil documentary. One that was fast-paced and interesting, one that stayed away from conspiracy theories, etc. Translate it into a bunch of languages. Then he could give it away. Not just on DVD, but online, off the Microsoft servers and on P2P networks.

And include it with each copy of Windows shipped.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby Luckystars » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 14:27:04

Jimmy Carter on Larry King Live a few days ago they go to a clip of him in 1977 saying "The energy shortage is real, we must begin to conserve."

And there you have the total insainity of this current situation, we were told.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby LadyRuby » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 14:27:36

It would be nice to get a transcript of that.

Here's what he said a few days ago, doesn't sound too awfully worried:

Microsoft's chairman defends Google in China censorship row

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')r Gates, meanwhile, played down fears that the world was headed for a long-term energy crisis, despite high oil prices.

“This is not a two-year spike, or at least that is not the way the markets are looking at (it),” he said of oil prices. However, he insisted that although it created difficulties in the short term, particularly for developing countries, in the long run there should not be an energy problem or a need to increase carbon emissions, as alternative energy sources are developed.

“The amount of innovation that is required is dramatic” he said. “We cannot be in denial to solve this problem.”



Although he does have some investments in Pacific Ethanol.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby Leanan » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 14:38:20

I think businessmen are inclined to be optimistic. They believe in the free market, or they would not be businessmen.

Even Matthew Simmons...I think the worst he expects is that a lot of people will lose a lot of money.
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Re: Bill Gates and Peak Oil

Unread postby mekrob » Fri 03 Feb 2006, 15:11:08

Well of course he won't be pessimistic. He sees this as an oppurtunity as well as all businessmen who know about it. There's so much money to be made if you're smart and inventful. Alt energy, very/super fuel effecient vehicles/homes/buildings are going to make billions (or quadrillions in future money) for those who can be the first and best. They don't look at it from a standpoint of a GM or Ford worker, veteraniarian, astronomer, etc who will most likely be out of a job and can't afford anything.
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