[eastbay]

I do not like this word.

The word no longer has any meaning. When I read an article and I see this word I will stop reading any further and disregard what I read to that point.

This is effective today.

[eastbay]

I didn't say I disapproved of the underlying concept. It's just that word. It's being overused to the point that it has lost its original meaning.

[PenultimateManStanding]

I'm sure we'll work out some sort of sustainable living arrangements eventually. Unless we go extinct and that's very sustainable. No fuss, no muss, no need to do anything then.

[eastbay]

I just conducted a google search for 'sustainable' and 'living' ... 60,600,000 hits.

'Sustainable' earns 278,000,000 hits.

It seems as though every page on the WWW has this word on it.

Sustainable is Dead,
Long Live Sustainable.

[smiley]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')The word no longer has any meaning. When I read an article and I see this word I will stop reading any further and disregard what I read to that point.

[Novus]

Sustainable is just another word for perpetual. In that meaning it is incompatable with thermodynamic laws on entropy. Nothing is sustainable in the true long term. Even the sun will burn out and go dark in a few billion years. Instead of sustainable we should talk in terms of latency of entropy. Organic farming will cause a latency in on-going soil depletion and stretch out the depletion over a long number of generations. Wind and solar power are NOT perpetual in nature for their parts will wear out and break after 50 to 100 years. They simply have more latency of entropy then burning oil and gas which suffers an immediate increase in the entropy of the system.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Yes the word has been cheapened, much like "paradigm". But in a broad sense it does have a clear meaning: the generations succeeded each other without major changes in ways of life for countless generations before the Industrial Revolution. Political Dynasties came and went but everyday life stayed about the same. One live as one's great great grandparents lived for the most part. And one knew that one's descendants probably would still be living the same way. However, that isn't the kind of world we live in now and I don't think that anyone alive now will ever see a time such as those old bygone times. Indeed relative sustainable living is impossible for us in that sense because for all the changes we have seen, we aint seen nothing yet.

[eastbay]

PMS,

I read your above posting to the point where I saw the 'S' word at which point I ceased reading further and deleted from memory all you had written.

Sorry, I just can't take it anymore.

Your friend and commie sympathizer,

Eastbay

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'P')MS,

I read your above posting to the point where I saw the 'S' word at which point I ceased reading further and deleted from memory all you had written.

Sorry, I just can't take it anymore.

Your friend and commie sympathizer,

Eastbay

[clover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', 'D')o you think the word "Entropy" is always used in the right context? Entropy is probably one of the most abused scientific concepts.

[Atlantean_Relic]

You will all Fear my Sustainable Entropy Device!

[clover]

*crickets chirping*

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clover', '*')crickets chirping*

[Atlantean_Relic]

You Mock the SED?