[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wowpleasewakeupalready', 'W')hy would the US bomb a pipeline? Seems so inefficient to me. I say take out the refineries they are connected to first.

[erl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'A')nother armchair general I see.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('erl', 'Y')ou must recognize a kindred spirit there, eh Roger?

[Concerned]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Depends. If the pipeline is on the surface, very easy. If it is buried 20 m or more in the ground not so easy. Not only would you need a bomb that can blast 20 m into the ground, you would have to know exactly where the pipe route was.

[Shadizar]

Wonderfull analysis. One of the best I've seen from this group (in about a year and a half).

-Shadizar

P.S. OUTSTANDING!

[garyp]

Everyone is focusing on throwing weapons around, but those types of behaviour play into the US mindset of main force, and thus invite retaliation.

Concentrate on the economic weapon. That's the one that can be unleashed without any comeback. For quite believable export reasons the countries of the far east have built up a position where they control the fate of the US currency. They also control its manufacturing base. They can control the moment they choose to unleash this weapon, and thus one way or another the US will do as they say.

And all without having to fire missiles at anywhere.

Bringing it back to peak oil, there is one very good way to postpone the peak and deliver China the oil it needs at a price it can control. Reduce the US oil consumption dramatically. For the sake of argument, if you halved the US consumption supply and demand would balance for at least another ten years. I'd guess that someone in China has that one worked out already.

[Heineken]

wowplease, as a love it or leave it type, is right to be proud of America's weaponry. Because that's about all America has left. The dollar is backed by bombs and little else. Certainly not by trust, prestige, gold, savings, or a manufacturing base. All gone.

As the US Empire continues to crumble, it will continue to lash out in its death throes. As in Iraq, with the potential for much worse.

You talk about danger.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wowpleasewakeupalready', 'D')on't let your hate for the US impact your objectivity. If you stay objective you will realise the world needs the US much more than it needs them.

[Pfish]

Just quit shipping to Walmart. That would do it. No need for nukes.

[Euric]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'w')owplease, as a love it or leave it type, is right to be proud of America's weaponry. Because that's about all America has left. The dollar is backed by bombs and little else. Certainly not by trust, prestige, gold, savings, or a manufacturing base. All gone.

As the US Empire continues to crumble, it will continue to lash out in its death throes. As in Iraq, with the potential for much worse.

You talk about danger.

[lateStarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Euric', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'w')owplease, as a love it or leave it type, is right to be proud of America's weaponry. Because that's about all America has left. The dollar is backed by bombs and little else. Certainly not by trust, prestige, gold, savings, or a manufacturing base. All gone.

As the US Empire continues to crumble, it will continue to lash out in its death throes. As in Iraq, with the potential for much worse.

You talk about danger.

[Euric]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', '[')
Actually, I don't think they will be using cruise-missiles or laser-guided bunker busters to maintain order in the US. There is no doubt that the US military has some fine hardware to play with. The problem, as exposed in Iraq and elsewhere, is that they are not prepared to fight a prolonged, low-level, low-tech type of warfare which seems to be the norm in most of the world today. It would almost be better for the US, if someone would step up to the plate and fight them at the same level. I really don't think the US military would be any more successful keeping the peace at home than they are any place else.

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')oncentrate on the economic weapon

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', '
')Actually, I don't think they will be using cruise-missiles or laser-guided bunker busters to maintain order in the US. There is no doubt that the US military has some fine hardware to play with. The problem, as exposed in Iraq and elsewhere, is that they are not prepared to fight a prolonged, low-level, low-tech type of warfare which seems to be the norm in most of the world today. It would almost be better for the US, if someone would step up to the plate and fight them at the same level. I really don't think the US military would be any more successful keeping the peace at home than they are any place else.

I have high regards for the US military. My father was in the USAF for 24 years. I feel for many years, they have been forced to fight with one hand behind their back though because of having people like Rumsfield at the wheel.

[max_power29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Euric', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'w')owplease, as a love it or leave it type, is right to be proud of America's weaponry. Because that's about all America has left. The dollar is backed by bombs and little else. Certainly not by trust, prestige, gold, savings, or a manufacturing base. All gone.

As the US Empire continues to crumble, it will continue to lash out in its death throes. As in Iraq, with the potential for much worse.

You talk about danger.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('max_power29', '
')This is what worries me the most about peakoil and the U.S. debt bomb. I am not nearly afraid of the poverty, starvation, or roaving bandits, as the government turning their weapons on their own citizens.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '
')But I personally believe you can scratch starvation from the list. The US has more than enough to feed themselves.

[Chuckmak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '
')But I personally believe you can scratch starvation from the list. The US has more than enough to feed themselves.

[Heineken]

People have a way of tailoring their beliefs to ensure their own imaginary safety within a sort of cocoon. That's one of the main reasons we aren't doing anything as we hurtle toward destruction. It's the OTHER guy who will starve.

[Chuckmak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'P')eople have a way of tailoring their beliefs to ensure their own imaginary safety within a sort of cocoon. That's one of the main reasons we aren't doing anything as we hurtle toward destruction. It's the OTHER guy who will starve.