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Re: Solutions for everything

Unread postby paimei01 » Tue 22 Jun 2010, 09:43:56

I was trying to "fix capitalism". Ignore that idea.
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One day there will be so many houses, that people will be bored and will go live in tents. "Why are you living in tents ? Are there not enough homes ?" "Yes there are, but we play this Economy game". Now it's "Crisis" time !Too many houses! Yes, we are insane!
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Re: Solutions for everything

Unread postby Pops » Tue 22 Jun 2010, 15:04:01

Unless you are very young I'd bet you could sell your car & your computer and buy a few acres and maybe a shack many places in the world - including near me. Here is 3 acres for sale with city water and nat. gas for $12,500 - that's one year's worth of working at McDonalds, add in a couple grand for a 20 year old 12'-wide and yer set! Property tax is maybe $100 and there are no building codes in the county.

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Then you have your farm and as long as you come up with the $100 a year by picking up cans on the side of the road you can sit back and do as little or as much as you want, my wife and I have been getting by OK on about what would be 1 person's full time minimum wage for 5 years now.

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I do feel bad for those little Chinese girls, in fact I mention them quite often when someone buys some piece of crap gee-gaw at walmart. But read your link, the first subhead:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'b')y an anonymous Chinese labor rights activist and scholar:
"The idea that ‘without sweatshops workers would starve to death' is a lie that corporate bosses use to cover their guilt."

No one is blackmailing them, they are there by choice, they even pay to get a summer job:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he students have to pay a "placement fee" of 300 to 500 RMB ($43.84 to $73.16) to KYE management to secure a summer position.

It ain't the Ritz but they are getting by as best as they can, if they weren't on that line they'd probably be working on the farm for no pay in a situation exactly like you are advocating so it's pretty plain "just the basics" isn't enough. Look, we're all in the same boat. We all have free will. Some of us - like me, have a much easier time than others and that part is dumb luck, but the fact remains most of us can choose.

That is the whole deal with capitalism, we have the opportunity to do as much as we are able. Sure, we have taken capitalism to the extreme, first by giving a capitalist invention - corporations, the rights of a natural person but none of the obligations - and second, turned what is at base a logical procedure for buying and selling parts of corporations into a scam to steal money without even the veneer of added value.

But hey, that will all change in time. Meanwhile, you tell me to read Ishmael to enlighten myself to do what - go back to eating bugs and periodically starving - or should I just affect that holier-than-thou goatee and only buy stuff labeled Fair Trade or Certified Organic or <snort> Green? Man, that is the biggest cop out of all!

Ishmael, by his own admission would never have gotten beyond sniffing his own finger in the wild yet sits on his palm fronds (delivered by helicopter I guess) and decries civilization. I'm gonna say it's easier to buy his patter about being trapped by civilization than to free yourself.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves -- in their separate, and individual capacities.
-- Abraham Lincoln, Fragment on Government (July 1, 1854)
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Re: Solutions for everything

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 22 Jun 2010, 15:44:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'D')o you manage to live in the country with no job ? I am not Gypsy.


Why would you even need a job since you will have your farm? You said basics only, didnt you? Even 1-hectar can bring you up to 75 tons of pumpkins and almost 2 tons of pumpkin seed. Thats well over 30 000 000 (thirty million) calories. Thats 82200 calories a day. Hey you can even have a few spoiled house slaves at your farm with so much food.
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Re: Solutions for everything

Unread postby rangerone314 » Thu 24 Jun 2010, 00:46:51

Fixing capitalism... I think you might as well try to give a sociopath etiquette lessons.
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right

Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take

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