1. Do you think a nuclear war will take place over the next 3 years in order to keep the oil supply running over the next few hundred years?
2. Do you think Bush could careless about what many perceives as 'reckless spending' because he could possibly know information that leads him to believe an imminent economic crash is going to take place regardless?
3. Is there anyone else out there like me who now has open eyes but is still deep in debt? I won't be out of debt for atleast 36 months and at that point I still won't have any savings. I am now making preperations while I do have money to buy bulk in items that I *need* every day like clothing, water purification, touring bicycle, etc.
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Several questions -
by RazorsEdge » Sat 02 Apr 2005, 20:56:32
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by UIUCstudent01 » Sat 02 Apr 2005, 22:18:57
1. No. MAD.
2. Yes. But, he our economy is lopsided. We service each other, but get products from overseas (and increasingly service-like jobs go overseas as well - programming, telemarketers).
3. No advice for you. Except for one little daydream of mine: Start a company promoting/using alternative energies and save the world.
2. Yes. But, he our economy is lopsided. We service each other, but get products from overseas (and increasingly service-like jobs go overseas as well - programming, telemarketers).
3. No advice for you. Except for one little daydream of mine: Start a company promoting/using alternative energies and save the world.
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by shortonoil » Sat 02 Apr 2005, 22:42:48
One thing to prepare for is massive inflation before the economic collapse. 30 to 40% wouldn't suprise me. It sounds like you are going in the right direction though. As to a nuclear war, probably not. If, however it does occur, the best thing that you can hope for is to be at ground zero.
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Re: answers
by BabyPeanut » Sat 02 Apr 2005, 23:58:47
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UIUCstudent01', 'E')xcept for one little daydream of mine: Start a company promoting/using alternative energies and save the world.
at the risk of flogging a dead horse...
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')No combination of alternative fuels will allow us to run American life the way we have been used to running it, or even a substantial fraction of it. The wonders of steady technological progress achieved through the reign of cheap oil have lulled us into a kind of Jiminy Cricket syndrome, leading many Americans to believe that anything we wish for hard enough will come true. These days, even people who ought to know better are wishing ardently for a seamless transition from fossil fuels to their putative replacements.
The widely touted "hydrogen economy" is a particularly cruel hoax. We are not going to replace the U.S. automobile and truck fleet with vehicles run on fuel cells. For one thing, the current generation of fuel cells is largely designed to run on hydrogen obtained from natural gas. The other way to get hydrogen in the quantities wished for would be electrolysis of water using power from hundreds of nuclear plants. Apart from the dim prospect of our building that many nuclear plants soon enough, there are also numerous severe problems with hydrogen's nature as an element that present forbidding obstacles to its use as a replacement for oil and gas, especially in storage and transport.
Wishful notions about rescuing our way of life with "renewables" are also unrealistic. Solar-electric systems and wind turbines face not only the enormous problem of scale but the fact that the components require substantial amounts of energy to manufacture and the probability that they can't be manufactured at all without the underlying support platform of a fossil-fuel economy. We will surely use solar and wind technology to generate some electricity for a period ahead but probably at a very local and small scale.
Virtually all "biomass" schemes for using plants to create liquid fuels cannot be scaled up to even a fraction of the level at which things are currently run. What's more, these schemes are predicated on using oil and gas "inputs" (fertilizers, weed-killers) to grow the biomass crops that would be converted into ethanol or bio-diesel fuels. This is a net energy loser -- you might as well just burn the inputs and not bother with the biomass products. Proposals to distill trash and waste into oil by means of thermal depolymerization depend on the huge waste stream produced by a cheap oil and gas economy in the first place.
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Re: Several questions -
by BabyPeanut » Sun 03 Apr 2005, 00:05:07
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RazorsEdge', '3'). Is there anyone else out there like me who now has open eyes but is still deep in debt? I won't be out of debt for atleast 36 months and at that point I still won't have any savings. I am now making preperations while I do have money to buy bulk in items that I *need* every day like clothing, water purification, touring bicycle, etc.
Me! I'm blowing all sorts of money but on energy saving things. I need medication to live so when TSHTF I'm not going to be saved by knowing how to do sustenance farming. At least with reduced energy needs I might last a little longer.
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