[PenultimateManStanding]

Its ciao, doofus, and I made no reference to any "truths." I merely noted that you post pseudo-intellectual gobbledygook. Try stating your case clearly or go back to tending the sheep.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')ts ciao, doofus, and I made no reference to any "truths." I merely noted that you post pseudo-intellectual gobbledygook. Try stating your case clearly or go back to tending the sheep.

[PenultimateManStanding]

how about unnatural contextual evolution? or natural pretextual transmogrification? or paradigmatic nontextual devolution? or facets of unnatural paradigms? or facets of Taleban disproportionate surplus CIA/ISI paradigms? or disproportionate scarcity of evolutionary paradigms? or paradigmatic scarcity of surplus paradigms?

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '
')Quick to jump the gun aren't we, Bruce. Italian lessons aside, cut with the gun toating drama will ya.

[americandream]

In a nutshell seeing as Bruce has asked me. We are living in a world dominated by post Pax Britannia and contemporary Pax Americana and consequently, we can only see its future through that cultural prism. Contemplating what the world will be like is fruitless as a consequence, but with one proviso. One can reason one's understanding of future dynamics. Current causes (economic, resourcing and social) will have future effects.

As an example. The late feudal era from which the US sprang was a world equally at the crossroads because of the then causative forces. Yet who could possibly have foreseen the modern US. Instead, the dialogue would have been almost entirely centred around the emerging conflict between the older landed classes and the new bourgeoisie. Unless, of course, one looked beyond the narrow confines of that debate to the natural consequences of an emerging elite on a resource laden new continental acquisition, within a new global context. All at a time when the company was taking form as a trading entity.

Today, we stand on the brink of hyper-capitalism which will unleash forces way beyond anything we can understand. As well as strife, these forces will transition us to another paradigm. Of that you can be sure. There will be no return to the late feudal days of early bourgeoisie America. The American bourgeoisie, for example, have moved well beyond that dialogue in setting up shop in China.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I')n a nutshell seeing as Bruce has asked me. We are living in a world dominated by post Pax Britannia and contemporary Pax Americana and consequently, we can only see its future through that cultural prism. Contemplating what the world will be like is fruitless as a consequence, but with one proviso. One can reason one's understanding of future dynamics. Current causes (economic, resourcing and social) will have future effects.

As an example. The late feudal era from which the US sprang was a world equally at the crossroads because of the then causative forces. Yet who could possibly have foreseen the modern US. Instead, the dialogue would have been almost entirely centred around the emerging conflict between the older landed classes and the new bourgeoisie. Unless, of course, one looked beyond the narrow confines of that debate to the natural consequences of an emerging elite on a resource laden new continental acquisition, within a new global context. All at a time when the company was taking form as a trading entity.

Today, we stand on the brink of hyper-capitalism which will unleash forces way beyond anything we can understand. As well as strife, these forces will transition us to another paradigm. Of that you can be sure. There will be no return to the late feudal days of early bourgeoisie America. The American bourgeoisie, for example, have moved well beyond that dialogue in setting up shop in China.

[americandream]

Calm down and counter me with logic. I am always open to reasoned logic. My point is this. Our bourgeoisie masters converse in Mandarin and yet we have the likes of Pretorian still converisng in the language of the land owning Confederacy class.

You see how absurd it is? Irrespective of how much you may dislike the smell of a black etc, etc, you will go wither capital leads and we are not yet done with globalisation and what we have yet to become.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'I')n a nutshell seeing as Bruce has asked me. We are living in a world dominated by post Pax Britannia and contemporary Pax Americana and consequently, we can only see its future through that cultural prism. Contemplating what the world will be like is fruitless as a consequence, but with one proviso. One can reason one's understanding of future dynamics. Current causes (economic, resourcing and social) will have future effects.

As an example. The late feudal era from which the US sprang was a world equally at the crossroads because of the then causative forces. Yet who could possibly have foreseen the modern US. Instead, the dialogue would have been almost entirely centred around the emerging conflict between the older landed classes and the new bourgeoisie. Unless, of course, one looked beyond the narrow confines of that debate to the natural consequences of an emerging elite on a resource laden new continental acquisition, within a new global context. All at a time when the company was taking form as a trading entity.

Today, we stand on the brink of hyper-capitalism which will unleash forces way beyond anything we can understand. As well as strife, these forces will transition us to another paradigm. Of that you can be sure. There will be no return to the late feudal days of early bourgeoisie America. The American bourgeoisie, for example, have moved well beyond that dialogue in setting up shop in China.

[americandream]

In fact, racists are latter day Don Quixotes. Whilst globalisation moves apace, they harken back to a time when capital was inefficiently deployed. It aint gonna happen. And by the time we hit the buffers of depletion, globalisation will have left an indelible mark. It already has with the internet!

You need to understand whats to come for in doing so, you retain the faculties of discrimination. Follow your emotions and you will die highly confused.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'C')alm down and counter me with logic. I am always open to reasoned logic. My point is this. Our bourgeoisie masters converse in Mandarin and yet we have the likes of Pretorian still converisng in the language of the land owning Confederacy class.

You see how absurd it is? Irrespective of how much you may dislike the smell of a black etc, etc, you will go wither capital leads and we are not yet done with globalisation and what we have yet to become.

[americandream]

The podium is yours. I'm more than happy for you to enlighten me as to where your logic trumps mine. A brief response will suffice.

My position is that racists and those who anticipate some spontaneous ethnic bloodbath do not understand the nature of capital, its global direction, it's overwhelming impact on our lives and cultures and it's relentless march and the indelible mark it will leave in globalising humanknd.

Now whether a globalised humanity is good or bad is neither here nor there. It will happen. Its effect will be felt by all of us though in the refugees in our midst, the increasing transcience of skilled labour, linguistic interaction and massive demographic changes.

Out of this will emerge another world, one in the midst of grappling with blurred demographics, failing resourcing and perhaps, climate instability. I suspect that what emerges will defy contemporary thinking as did moden America vis-a-vis its founding.

Perhaps you believe otherwise.

edit: as capital decomes increasingly inter-dependent, so will the language of our culture. Capital tolerates only that which is necessary for its accumulation, shedding away by degree that which is not.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'C')alm down and counter me with logic. I am always open to reasoned logic. My point is this. Our bourgeoisie masters converse in Mandarin and yet we have the likes of Pretorian still converisng in the language of the land owning Confederacy class.

You see how absurd it is? Irrespective of how much you may dislike the smell of a black etc, etc, you will go wither capital leads and we are not yet done with globalisation and what we have yet to become.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he podium is yours. I'm more than happy for you to enlighten me as to where your logic trumps mine. A brief response will suffice.

My position is that racists and those who anticipate some spontaneous ethnic bloodbath do not understand the nature of capital, its global direction, it's overwhelming impact on our lives and cultures and it's relentless march and the indelible mark it will leave in globalising humanknd.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he podium is yours. I'm more than happy for you to enlighten me as to where your logic trumps mine. A brief response will suffice.

My position is that racists and those who anticipate some spontaneous ethnic bloodbath do not understand the nature of capital, its global direction, it's overwhelming impact on our lives and cultures and it's relentless march and the indelible mark it will leave in globalising humanknd.

[PenultimateManStanding]

An example of logic: if A or B is true, then if A is not true, then B is true. or if A and B are true, then neither A nor B can be false. Foundations of logical thinking and the basis of computer science, which allows us to have this fascinating exchange around the world at the speed of light.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '
')
Bald assertions that my position is gobbledygook will not suffice. Counter them or put up.
I'll make it easy for your. It could for example read as follows:

Your position; that a globalising capital will leave an indelible global culture and that racists or those who see race ending history are wrong, is gobbledygook because,...etc, etc.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'A')n example of logic: if A or B is true, then if A is not true, then B is true. or if A and B are true, then neither A nor B can be false. Foundations of logical thinking and the basis of computer science, which allows us to have this fascinating exchange around the world at the speed of light.

[americandream]

There are times when one has to let up on here and take the piss. On other occasions, I'm a bit more serious.

edited cretinous typo

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '
')
Bald assertions that my position is gobbledygook will not suffice. Counter them or put up.
I'll make it easy for your. It could for example read as follows:

Your position; that a globalising capital will leave an indelible global culture and that racists or those who see race ending history are wrong, is gobbledygook because,...etc, etc.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', ' ')
Please, enlighten me.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', ' ')
Please, enlighten me.

[the48thronin]

I cant believe i wasted 10 minutes reading this thinking there might be some point made here that meant something.. PMS do you really think you need permission to cross that bridge from the entity speaking from below it?

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('the48thronin', 'I') cant believe i wasted 10 minutes reading this thinking there might be some point made here that meant something.. PMS do you really think you need permission to cross that bridge from the entity speaking from below it?