[davep]

Cog's right. Even outside it's bloody noisy. A problem neatly dealt with by my suppressor idea.

BTW I've not noticed a penury of .22LR in France. The rationale for them is obviously that they're so cheap and you can carry far more of them than any other round (and they don't go far over the speed of sound, even the non-subsonic ones).

The question is whether they have enough energy to do a zombie in.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'C')og's right. Even outside it's bloody noisy. A problem neatly dealt with by my suppressor idea.

BTW I've not noticed a penury of .22LR in France. The rationale for them is obviously that they're so cheap and you can carry far more of them than any other round (and they don't go far over the speed of sound, even the non-subsonic ones).

The question is whether they have enough energy to do a zombie in.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'C')og's right. Even outside it's bloody noisy. A problem neatly dealt with by my suppressor idea.

BTW I've not noticed a penury of .22LR in France. The rationale for them is obviously that they're so cheap and you can carry far more of them than any other round (and they don't go far over the speed of sound, even the non-subsonic ones).

The question is whether they have enough energy to do a zombie in.

[Cog]

I'm thinking that the older and most wasted a zombie is the more mushier his skull is. From watching the episodes, I've seen zombies killed with a knife to the skull or a hammer. If I'm not mistaken didn't they kill some zombies with a high pressure water hose from a fire engine?

[C8]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')'m thinking that the older and most wasted a zombie is the more mushier his skull is. From watching the episodes, I've seen zombies killed with a knife to the skull or a hammer. If I'm not mistaken didn't they kill some zombies with a high pressure water hose from a fire engine?

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '
')In the fiction novels I have read where the Mob shows up they prefer to use 22LR for executions, usually base of the skull behind the ear. I don't have a clue if that is how it is actually done and I have no desire to find out via personal experience.

[PrestonSturges]

Rule #2 - Always Double Tap

.... and a .22 rifle would have considerably more zing than a pistol. The ideal weapon would be a 10/22 with a suppressor and hi-rise scope rings. Just once I'd like to see someone finding the street full of zombies pull out a .22 and say "I got this."

But most people would quickly get a pole arm, war hammer, brush hook, or 40" length of 1" iron gas pipe.

[Cog]

In the world that Rick and his group inhabit, you want to preserve your ammo for the real threat, which is other human predators. Zombies are rather trivially easily killed if you have a barrier between you and them. I'm thinking of the fence at the prison where the crew would go out everyday and poke the zombie's heads with metal stakes.

[davep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'R')ule #2 - Always Double Tap

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cog', 'I')n the world that Rick and his group inhabit, you want to preserve your ammo for the real threat, which is other human predators. Zombies are rather trivially easily killed if you have a barrier between you and them. I'm thinking of the fence at the prison where the crew would go out everyday and poke the zombie's heads with metal stakes.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '
')
Also, who keeps cutting the grass in TWD? I seems like the zombies are keeping up with the yard work.

[davep]

Maybe there's been an explosion of herbivorous zombie animals too, but as they're not attacking humans nobody really cares.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '
')Also, who keeps cutting the grass in TWD? I seems like the zombies are keeping up with the yard work.

[steam_cannon]

Are the drugs in Walking Dead Pharmacies still good?

Well generally most OTC drugs are pretty stable as well as animal care products. 6 years out, I think most of the dry tablet drugs will probably be effective. Some drugs like hormones for birth control are so stable they can cause fish in rivers to have gender issues long after the drug has exited the human body. Though tetracycline is one of the drugs where there has been concern in the past as to it's safe shelf life. I think the answer really depends on the specific drugs we're talking about, because shelf life factors will be different for different drugs and drug preparations. The packaging can also be a factor and if it's likely to react with oxygen, for example fish oil pills that go bad after sitting on a shelf for too many months. That said, here are some general facts...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Military research on drug expiration dates:

The program dates to a U. S. effort begun in 1981 to increase military readiness by buying large quantities of drugs and medical devices for the armed forces. Four years later, more than $1 billion of supplies had been stockpiled. The General Accounting Office audited Air Force troop hospitals in Europe and found many supplies at or near expiration. It warned that by the 1990s, more than $100 million would have to be spent yearly on replacements.

The Air Force Surgeon General's office asked the FDA if it could possibly extend the shelf life of these drugs. The FDA had the equipment for stability testing. And because it had approved the drugs' sale in the first place, it also had manufacturers' data on the testing protocols.

Testing for the Air Force began in late 1985. In the first year, 58 medicines from 137 different manufacturing lots were shipped to the FDA from overseas storage, among them penicillin, lidocaine and Lactated Ringers, an intravenous solution for dehydration. After testing, the FDA extended more than 80% of the expired lots, by an average of 33 months.

In 1992, according to the FDA, more than half of the expired drugs that had been retested in 1985 were still fine. Even now, at least one still is.

http://www.terrierman.com/antibiotics-WSJ.htm

[C8]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', '[')b]Are the drugs in Walking Dead Pharmacies still good?

Well generally most OTC drugs are pretty stable as well as animal care products. 6 years out, I think most of the dry tablet drugs will probably be effective. Some drugs like hormones for birth control are so stable they can cause fish in rivers to have gender issues long after the drug has exited the human body. Though tetracycline is one of the drugs where there has been concern in the past as to it's safe shelf life.

[vtsnowedin]

By ignoring the rules on taking antibiotics you have chosen to become one of the worst promoters of antibiotic resistant diseases. If I could identify you I would shoot you on sight.

[C8]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', 'B')y ignoring the rules on taking antibiotics you have chosen to become one of the worst promoters of antibiotic resistant diseases. If I could identify you I would shoot you on sight.

[C8]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'C')8, by not taking antibiotics for the full run, you have done your part to breed antibiotic-resistant strains of the pathogen that infected you. Not only will those resistant bugs infect you worse next time, but they may spread to the general population. You are responsible for a possible public health hazard, not unlike those created the anti-vaccination people.

[steam_cannon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', 'T')his is good info. I get seriously sick about every 3-4 years and need a heavy duty antibiotic. I have found that, even though they tell you to take all 10 days worth, that if I stop medicating after day 2 the illness continues to decline and never comes back.