[timmac]

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know: Is the CFR Part of a Global Government?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLswqHu0IiI

There is a bunch of this vids on YouTube here, check them out, some are strange some are eye openers...

[timmac]

Why does the United States fluoridate water?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2UloigtyHQ

[timmac]

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know: Why Do People Think the World Will End in 2012?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcsEM-PaZYk

[timmac]

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know: Were Ancient Empires Founded by Aliens?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kluuq1oWgKI

[basil_hayden]

Timmeh's off his meds again!

Timmeh's off his meds again!

Timmeh's off his meds again!

[mcgowanjm]

BP:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yves"/NakedCapitalism', 'I')t seems utterly implausible that BP does not have a well informed idea as to how much oil is coming out of its well. And the evidence is compelling that the 5.000 barrel per day figure BP keeps presenting is an utter canard, considerably lower than the real outflow. But BP refuses to put measurement equipment near the leak, arguing it might interfere with remediation efforts. Huh? How can you possibly ascertain whether what you plan to do to plug the hole (which is what these first round efforts have all consisted of) has a snowball’s chance of hell in working if you don’t have a good idea of the volumes coming out of the leak?

In other words, the only reason for BP NOT to want to have this information is that:

1. Its remediation efforts to date have some reasonable odds of success only if the outflow is not that much above its 5000 barrel a day estimate

2. Higher outflows and pretty much zilch odds of success of current public-placating dorking around would lead to much greater pressure to Do Something Now.

3. The effective Do Something Now options (like the radical one of using a nuclear weapon to collapse the ocean floor into the leak) would likely also result in making it difficult for BP to ever get oil from that site

4. The BP strategy is thus very likely all about trying to maximize oil extraction by minimizing the appearance of damage and buying time while it drills a relief well

[mcgowanjm]

Obama:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yves"NakedCapitlism', '1'). Team Obama believes the BP BS

2. Obama does not want to look impotent. Revealing that the leak is really bad and not having a quick solution is an Obama PR disaster. Obama has to work through BP unless he can implement an action plan using only government resources or by working with another oil company with deep ocean expertise. Given the lead times for government contracting, this would take quite a while.

If the leak is as serious as I fear, this is environmental equivalent of the Iran hostage crisis. Team Obama recognizes this, and therefore wants to create the impression as long as possible that everything that could possibly be done is being done. Note that the Administration is behaving with BP exactly as it did vis as vis the banksters in early 2009: believing that the problem is too complex and scary for them to assert control, casting its lot in with the people who caused the problem in the first place (while calling them bad names often enough to create plausible deniability). And enabling BP’s coverup of how bad the leak means, as Obama did with the financial services industry, of having to support, or at least not undermine too much, its PR efforts.

[mcgowanjm]

And a great reply in the Comments section:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd to keep with the numbering scheme -

1. They don’t currently live (or will not live in the future) in any area affected by this disaster. This certainly applies to the extreme top management of BP, and the highest levels of the administration.

2. We all live in a Hollywood world – as this line reveals – ‘Revealing that the leak is really bad and not having a quick solution is an Obama PR disaster.’ Why? The leak is really bad, and the likelihood of a quick solution is already over – after all, this is the real world. It is the shared narrative of quick solutions to any problem at all which has resulted in so many problems in America simply being pushed off into the future. Well, the future is now.

3. There is nothing to be done until the relief well drilling/plugging effort is successful – with luck, just a couple of more months; without luck, likely before 2011 is very far along. Welcome to the reality of what is likely to be the largest accidental release of oil and gas in human history. Which at least happens to have one element of narrative artistry to it – it is occurring, if not exactly in full view (thanks to those vigilant sailors from a subdivision of the Department Of Homeland Security keeping American citizens off public lands), at least plainly in the backyard of the world’s largest user of oil.

4. Nobody in America cares until something goes so wrong, it is impossible to keep pretending that life is all about ‘have a nice day.’ We are still at the wanting to have a nice day stage (or we will be fired, after all), even as thousands of barrels of oil spew out into the Gulf. Then, we will wait for Hollywood to come up with a new diversion. Maybe something like 2012, The Sequel. A movie with nary an oil slick in sight, as a bright new day dawns for those lucky enough to have the wealth and power to enjoy a refreshing ocean cruise.

[vaseline2008]

timmac, you may enjoy the following movies:

Loose Change 9/11
Zeitgeist
Endgame

You decide.